Varies was discussed and rejected a lot over the years from what I can tell. Probably should decide upon the ratings in the most consistent tier range.
From what I'm seeing there are no two feats in the same Tier so far. Varies may be the only option, and would be viable due to Maverick's statement below.
Tier 7 looks the most complete for now
False equivalence, the castle is considered larger than its portrayed in the cutscene based on its exterior, meanwhile there’s nothing in DKCR indicating the moon is as large as its real world counterpart. We’re not inflating a feat based on a game that comes out 7 years later, we’re using the size it’s shown to be in its game.
Are you talking about the SMW feat? Not only is the castle shown to be bigger in other situations which doesn't apply to the moon, but this is also a SNES game, which has perspective limits, compared to a Wii game that can play with the camera as much as it wants.
You do realize Jungle Beat was done by a completely different studio, right? There's no relation between the two games outside of the fact that they're DK games. Also, I don't really see the evidence of the Moon being normal-sized here, unless you're gonna say "well it LOOKS big" is your argument.
Oh, don't bring in author intent now. You really think Raphael exploding into a bunch of stars was meant to be a showing of Kamek's power rather than a meaningless joke? You really think the person writing Wario World's description mentioned a universe cause it would make Wario stronger? And you think that all the times Mario gets hurt by something trivial the writers are purposefully spiting him by lowering his power level?
Are you going to keep this up for much longer? You've made more ad hominem than actual arguments, and if this continues I'm gonna request a thread ban.
"Grouchy" is one thing, but he has been condescending and has insulted our side multiple times while making incredibly half-assed arguments, which I'd say is a bit beyond "grouchy". I'm fully aware that's he's one of the people who's been on-site for the longest, but that only makes it worse that he's acted like a complete child for several threads by now.
Two years ago and I’d be right on carrying that pitchfork.
But now I just don’t have the energy to do that anymore. So I’ll just leave with a single comment:
Literally over half of his comments are this kind of stupid jab. I don't care if he isn't causing any "problems", he's feeding into the drama surrounding these revisions that he's fully aware he shouldn't be giving any weight to in an attempt to gather sympathy, while being hostile to me and the people making these arguments. Even his few constructive comments are drenched in the same smug sense of superiority.
I’d love to tone things down if the arguments didn’t grind my gears more than a Klinklang. Not only are they treating the series like it’s Marvel/DC and going “muh consistent” as opposed to higher showings that aren’t one-offs, but they’re writing off any feat that is above their aforementioned tier as hax or some scaling reason that would be laughed at if it wasn’t coming from staff. Like seriously look me in the eyes and tell me that exploding into a star wouldn’t be a blatant tier 4 feat in any other verse. Or a black hole that’s naturally found in space being scrutinized to hell and back. That’s why I’m responding the way I am. Death of tier 2? Fine. Some of the arguments I found bs but the tier was already controversial to begin with. This however? While I can very much be civilized, I’ve put up with a lot over the past 6 years to allow the dam to break a little.
Kamek seemingly intended that yoshi would be at risk because of this power and at this point in time the possibility of harming bowser by creating a bunch of stars on the island he is on would be completely out of character it is not a self destruct.
