Stuff than Sans can do that we don't have on his Powers and Abilities yet

[Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera]

Can hurt you if you even consider something for too long without acting

https://youtu.be/Vr4IYjeplJA?t=259


Reads Chara's mind and senses Frisk in there(See Fight, Normal spare dialogue)

http://undertale.wikia.com/wiki/Sans/In_Battle#Quotes


Counters Invulnerability(Post-hit Invulnerability is canon)


https://youtu.be/hQK7ucN-zo0?t=30

Created a tornado in his room

https://youtu.be/D986pG6bj5g?t=559

 

[Antvasima]

You can inform Azathoth about this thread, if you wish.

 

[Magi_Hussie]

1. Well you can add that to the description of Sans Karma then.

2. Mind Reading.

3. Yea, Sans KARMA is known to bypass durability, invulnerability, and defense while also nullfying Regenerationn & Resistances.

4. Tornado Generation.

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

1. I don't see what the video is trying to show

2. Empathy. Or him just trying to trick you.

3. Be good to add a "negates invulnerability" note

4. Non-combat applicable

 

[Anonimoe7875]

That isn't mind reading...

The tornado wasn't accepted at another thread.

@Magi

Frisk don't have regen at they genocide form and KARMA damage can be healed by monster food.

 

[Magi_Hussie]

That isn't mind reading...
The tornado wasn't accepted at another thread.

@Magi

Frisk don't have regen at they genocide form and KARMA damage can be healed by monster food.

1. Its probably something else but I'll discuss that later.

2. Mk.

3. Its most likely limited when it temporary negates your healing while only during the fight when Sans attacks you with all of his KARMA-based attacks not the breaks between the fight when you can use your items.

 

[Anonimoe7875]

Healing work just fine during his battle, but Frisk/Chara still get the KR effect.

 

[Magi_Hussie]

Healing work just fine during his battle, but Frisk/Chara still get the KR effect.

Healing works fine only during the breaks, as in the times when you can have access of using your items in the fight. When Sans starts attacking you again, Healing does not work due to KR temporary nullfying it.

 

[Anonimoe7875]

Isn't that just damaging Frisk/Chara?

 

[Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera]

@Magi I'm not talking about KARMA, I'm talking about Bone Attacks.

 

[Magi_Hussie]

@Magi I'm not talking about KARMA, I'm talking about Bone Attacks.

Sans bypassing Geno Frisk/Chara's INV involves KARMA.

 

[Magi_Hussie]

Isn't that just damaging Frisk/Chara?

Not exactly.

 

[Anonimoe7875]

Can hurt you if you even consider something for too long without acting

https://youtu.be/Vr4IYjeplJA?t=259

Anyone can do that...

Also wouldn't this add Limited Intangibility to Frisk and Chara?

 

[Magi_Hussie]

Can hurt you if you even consider something for too long without acting

https://youtu.be/Vr4IYjeplJA?t=259

Anyone can do that...

Also wouldn't this add Limited Intangibility to Frisk and Chara?

1. Nullfying healing temporary? No, the only known monster who can do that is Sans.

2. No, Geno Frisk/Chara still got damaged from that. Also, that would only apply for Sans since that technically means he has intangible bones.

 

[GloryTheRainWing108]

What about stopping time as shown in this video at 3:29?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQLwLMNzd2w

 

[Anonimoe7875]

@Magi

I wasn't referring to you and that isn't heal negation.

Since invincibility frames are canon wouldn't that add limited Intangibility to Chara and Frisk?

@Glory

That wasn't accepted at another thread.

 

[Magi_Hussie]

@Anonimoe

1. Didn't notice.

2. Technically yes & no. Yes; since they ignore most forms of energy which is part of having Limited Intangibily. No; INV frames mainly gives Frisk & Chara surprisingly high resistance to various things in the game.

 

[Anonimoe7875]

No; INV frames mainly gives Frisk & Chara surprisingly high resistance to various things in the game.
So they don't have it because they would have resistance to various things in the game?

That isn't a good answer... and if we add invulnerability/intangibility negation to Sans then we must add invulnerability/intangibility to Chara/Frisk

 

[Magi_Hussie]

No; INV frames mainly gives Frisk & Chara surprisingly high resistance to various things in the game.

So they don't have it because they would have resistance to various things in the game?
That isn't a good answer... and if we add invulnerability/intangibility negation to Sans then we must add invulnerability/intangibility to Chara/Frisk

1. That's not what I said and I never mention anything about them not being able to have it.

2. I guess so, and Sans can't negate intangibility

 

[Anonimoe7875]

Invulnerability frames would fall at Limited Intangibility rather than you know invulnerability ┬»\_(Òâä)_/┬»

 

[Magi_Hussie]

Invulnerability frames would fall at Limited Intangibility rather than you know invulnerability ┬»\_(Òâä)_/┬»

Yea, in a way it would.

 

[Antvasima]

It would still be good if you ask Azathoth to comment here.

 

[Newendigo]

It would still be good if you ask Azathoth to comment here.

I don't think is necesary, most of this abilities seems to be pure speculation and out of context.

1) In the first example, Sans simply is attacking you while you're preparing a attack, he simply cheast.

2) The second example is out of context, this text are NOT belong to sans, but the Player. Every time you fight a monster, there's always a text that appears to express how is going the battle (Like in Earthbound).

3) Sans already ignore durability, so this is unnecesary.

4) In the fourth example, there's nothing that suggest that sans can make tornados by his own.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Perhaps we should close this thread then?

 

[Newendigo]

Sure.