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Yeah guys Saitama TOTALLY wasn't serious and trying to kill Garou when the whole point of killing Genos was to draw his full power for Garou to copy and the narrator states directly that he underwent an surge of emotion due to Genos death not to mention the several panels of Saitama being genuinely pissed off...
He was going all out and serious. but he wasn't
"Underwent a surge of emotions"that does not say he was at full power, if he was going all out, he should have killed Garou, either in the middle of the fight or at the end of the fight (and we know his growth is so great he surpassed Garou in a very short time)
Going all out, being serious =/= killing. Saitama showed many times that he wasn't going to kill Garou. Saitama at the END of the battle did hold back though, like Garou said, he could kill him if he wanted at that point.
 
He was going all out and serious. but he wasn't

Going all out, being serious =/= killing. Saitama showed many times that he wasn't going to kill Garou. Saitama at the END of the battle did hold back though, like Garou said, he could kill him if he wanted at that point.
That is what i am trying yo say
 
The entire point of that scene was that Saitama was so angry at himself for not being there in time that he threw away all restraints. He was going to blow up the planet. He simply did not care anymore.
Which again, that is a problem he himself has, but he is still a hero at end by not killing Garou, Saitama thinks very low on himself (outside of the power off course)he thinks he is not a hero because he is to late, he thinks he has no emotions, he seemingly wanted to die when he was 22, he has problems to make relations with some people (minud King, mumen rider and Genos...probably manako too)and almost all heroes (not all of them) are very egotistical and are so full of themselfs, they think they are the greatests and invincible, until they are shown they are not invincible and some of them fall, some of them surpass themselfs and accept that they are not invincible, and that is fine.
He in other hand, is invincible, and hates himself.
 
Except you're still wrong.

Garou wasn't killed in the end because Saitama was a hero, however when the initial Serious Punch was thrown, he didn't consider himself to be one. Up until they left Io, Saitama seriously intended to kill Garou.
Saitama says he doesn't have a hero's intuition. which didn't change even at the ending. he's a hero even though he doesn't have a hero's intuition. When they landed to IO, Garou says they should find a way to go back, which Saitama says they'll think of it after he beats him. Sure i might be wrong as well, i just think it's possible he used SP there because Blast was there and that he wasn't going for the kill.
Which again, that is a problem he himself has, but he is still a hero at end by not killing Garou, Saitama thinks very low on himself (outside of the power off course)he thinks he is not a hero because he is to late, he thinks he has no emotions, he seemingly wanted to die when he was 22, he has problems to make relations with some people (minud King, mumen rider and Genos...probably manako too)and almost all heroes (not all of them) are very egotistical and are so full of themselfs, they think they are the greatests and invincible, until they are shown they are not invincible and some of them fall, some of them surpass themselfs and accept that they are not invincible, and that is fine.
He in other hand, is invincible, and hates himself.
...why? What's the point of it? just sounds like a unrelated sad backstory
 
Tbh, I feel like Saitama will end up having some kind of unconventional empathic Manipulation resistance.

When fighting Garou, he started pissed af, and the stronger he got, the less importance he gave to Genos' death or the fight in general (to the point that before the Serious Sneeze he had his usual, bored face worrying about his outfit and not about Garou). This aligns with Saitama saying that when he got so strong he lost something that made him Human
 
Blastrangers will come and take Blast and Void to another place(anywhere except Earth) Blast will finally start to use blasts. otherwise he doesn't deserve that name.
Blast definitely needs to be Blasting more in this fight. Bang did bang quite a bit back in his day so it's only fair if Blast keeps earning his name.
 
Blastrangers will come and take Blast and Void to another place(anywhere except Earth) Blast will finally start to use blasts. otherwise he doesn't deserve that name.
Lol if his team has to come save him then you know he’s a fraud ain’t no way that’s going to happen tho I don’t believe the fight is over so soon it’s Been what 2 chapters
 
There are lot of people like them that genuinely think Saitama was holding back the whole time and in reality he could have one punched Garou lmfao
no, my explanation was:
Saitama was not in full power against Garou, but he still grows in power, because the growth had nothing to do with him being at full power (he alredy has no limits)
 
no, my explanation was:
Saitama was not in full power against Garou, but he still grows in power, because the growth had nothing to do with him being at full power (he alredy has no limits)
HE LITERALLY THREW A PUNCH WITH FULL KILLING INTENT AT GAROU THAT WOULD HAVE DESTROYED THE EARTH AND HE HIMSELF SAYS HE IS USING HIS FULL POWER WHEN THEY FIGHT IN IO
 
and then Genos theory says that Saitama was holding back, and his theory was true in all the points (except the light speed)
No way you are comparing Genos' long af speech which is just his interpretation of the events with a literal statement from the narrator.

Genos is not omniscient, he also thought Saitama remembered he defeated Garou lol
 
no, my explanation was:
Saitama was not in full power against Garou, but he still grows in power, because the growth had nothing to do with him being at full power (he alredy has no limits)
Problem is, Garou could notice Saitama's growth because he was matching Saitama's strength.

So, Saitama holding back yet growing makes no sense
 
because he is supressing his own power to some level, but when he grows, the level he was at the moment is not the same.
That does not make any sense. "He's supressing to a fixed level but when his full strength grows, he supresses himself to a higher level"? Bruh

And, again, do not argue with me, argue with the narrator stating that Garou was matching Saitama's strength. And tell me how Saitama was holding back here (top right panel), when the difference between their full powers was less than half a quadrant, yet he was outmatching Garou.
ok so what is not correct in Genos theory?
Him saying Saitama's power transcended causality, space and time (it was a technique Garou taught him, not his actual power), the statement of the Theory of Relativity (unless you think all the FTL and above feats cap at below SoL), that he can manipulate the laws of causality…

The only correct thing was the multiverse theory, and just because EV confirmed later that OPM works following MWI.
 
That does not make any sense. "He's supressing to a fixed level but when his full strength grows, he supresses himself to a higher level"? Bruh

And, again, do not argue with me, argue with the narrator stating that Garou was matching Saitama's strength. And tell me how Saitama was holding back here (top right panel), when the difference between their full powers was less than half a quadrant, yet he was outmatching Garou.

Him saying Saitama's power transcended causality, space and time (it was a technique Garou taught him, not his actual power), the statement of the Theory of Relativity (unless you think all the FTL and above feats cap at below SoL), that he can manipulate the laws of causality…

The only correct thing was the multiverse theory, and just because EV confirmed later that OPM works following MWI.
Ok
 
Nah killing garou is head canon and was never stated he was angry but that doesn’t translate into blood lusted he never would’ve calmed down if that was the case and he clearly remembered the kids words
 
 
So Empty Void possesses CF Garou's knowledge right? The power given to him seemingly not just a boost of energy but also an intellectual boost. Also he might even surpass him since Empty Void already surpasses in-universe information and now possess higher dimensional information.
 
So Empty Void possesses CF Garou's knowledge right? The power given to him seemingly not just a boost of energy but also an intellectual boost. Also he might even surpass him since Empty Void already surpasses in-universe information and now possess higher dimensional information.
I want him to surpass Garou, i have traumas with the Solaris vs The end arguments...
 
Garou's inherent ability was to copy other people and evolve beyond them, which made him so busted. Void is literally just another ninja with a stat boost.
 
Garou's inherent ability was to copy other people and evolve beyond them, which made him so busted. Void is literally just another ninja with a stat boost.
Yeah a Ninja that has detective skills that requires insane IQ and advanced assassination skills that requires adaptation on every situation. Remember were talking about the leader or founder every other skills that thought in the village are originated from him. Just because you've been spoonfed by the screentime of Garou you're gonna ignore the exposition for Empty Void which is more impressive for someone whose already strong as Blast back then than someone whose just adapting or rookie for busted abilities.
 
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