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Okay so you just missed the point of the comment you replied to completely.

I was saying that, in theory, if God's statement applies to the 2-A structure as well, then God would be 5-D.

Not that if it only applies to 3-D beings and existence.

Read context smh.
Now I understand what you mean. So what you are saying is that if all these comparisons and higher dimensional statements were made against 2-A space, then 5-D would be 5-D. Okay, what I'm saying is that these comparisons are said for 3-D beings.


Btw it's also debatable that those statements are also higher dimensional because Ultima was saying in HDE and tier 1 revisions that statements like "higher dimension" or "higher existence/higher plane" or "extra dimensional" are basically not enough for tier 1 or HDE. So that's why I said it might not be enough to be expressed as higher dimensional and being beyond. The situation here is similar
 
Oof, cool chapter but you guys are really pushing some stuff way too hard

- I guess by Void's statement, Flash is still stronger than Sonic, that punch was done with Flash being as off guard as it gets, no resistence, no dodging, no blocking, completely surprised, I wouldn't use it to say they are equal, no

- I also loved how Flash and Sonic perceived and reacted to Void, they were completely hopeless, quite a way to show the massive difference in power

- About Void's power, I would hold on scaling this Void, from this chapter, to 4-A/3-C since he wasn't using that Cosmic form we saw when he got Garou's powers. It's possible, of course, that "Cosmic Void" was just a initial reaction to Garou's powers and then he started to use that juice in his regular monster form, but for now we should see this Void was somewhat weaker than a possible cosmic final form for him and gather every feat for him for maybe a Monster key

- Even if Saitama was the one who created this 2-A structure, this would be just a chain reaction to him time travelling and won't scale to his stats, there are numerous characters who could affect their cosmology with this
 
Oof, cool chapter but you guys are really pushing some stuff way too hard

- I guess by Void's statement, Flash is still stronger than Sonic, that punch was done with Flash being as off guard as it gets, no resistence, no dodging, no blocking, completely surprised, I wouldn't use it to say they are equal, no

- I also loved how Flash and Sonic perceived and reacted to Void, they were completely hopeless, quite a way to show the massive difference in power

- About Void's power, I would hold on scaling this Void, from this chapter, to 4-A/3-C since he wasn't using that Cosmic form we saw when he got Garou's powers. It's possible, of course, that "Cosmic Void" was just a initial reaction to Garou's powers and then he started to use that juice in his regular monster form, but for now we should see this Void was somewhat weaker than a possible cosmic final form for him and gather every feat for him for maybe a Monster key

- Even if Saitama was the one who created this 2-A structure, this would be just a chain reaction to him time travelling and won't scale to his stats, there are numerous characters who could affect their cosmology with this
being off guard does not makes your face less resistant.


sonic definetely scales to flashy physically.
 
If you think getting punched while completely spaced out is equal to getting punched while focused on a fight, you don't know how fighting works
dodging, outmaneuvering an attack ≠ tanking it.

it wouldnt change N O T H I N G.

his face’s toughness will not increase just because he is aware of the punch, at the best he would be able to take it in a better position.
 
Void still says Flashy is physically stronger, Sonic scales but he isn't an equal.
who cares? the point is that the damage would be the same in any situation.
sonic can clearly damage flashy.

theres nothing to do with him being off guard or not, flashy cant even increase his physicals.
 
Shouldn't Boros also upscale to 2-A since Saitama wasn't surprised by Void but still was surprised by Boros power?

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Yeah this discussion is useless anyway, Flash could take the punch better if he was aware of it, but I never said Sonic wouldn't scale

I'm more interested in Void's current Tier if we assume only his Cosmic form is Tier 4, he tanked Blast quite well
 
if Blast and Void are getting 2 tier
what about garou? blast is doing much better against Void than against Garou.
we don't know much about garou vs blast actually. mostly it was skipped, blast was still fighting without any visible damage. we don't even know if he was going all out or not considering what he wanted first wasn't defeating garou but saving everyone.

we don't even know if they'll get tier 2 .d
 
Yeah this discussion is useless anyway, Flash could take the punch better if he was aware of it, but I never said Sonic wouldn't scale

I'm more interested in Void's current Tier if we assume only his Cosmic form is Tier 4, he tanked Blast quite well
I don’t think void has a cosmic form this is his new look has the same cosmic energy the other one had I think void just changed his looks off screen
 
Also, considering that the power level increased that much


couldnt we reconsider using the high end for serious punch 2 where it destroyed galaxies?
 
we don't know much about garou vs blast actually. mostly it was skipped, blast was still fighting without any visible damage. we don't even know if he was going all out or not considering what he wanted first wasn't defeating garou but saving everyone.

we don't even know if they'll get tier 2 .d
Garou literally scales to void tho as void is using his energy rn so any feats performed he’d be in the same realm of power and it works the other way for blast scaling to garou
 
we don't know much about garou vs blast actually. mostly it was skipped, blast was still fighting without any visible damage. we don't even know if he was going all out or not considering what he wanted first wasn't defeating garou but saving everyone.

we don't even know if they'll get tier 2 .d
blast clearly couldnt countain seriouspunch 2, and both saitama and garou ended up being individually massively stronger than it

so ye, garou is much stronger than blast
 
Before the release of the chapter, I was about to joke how we will get Beyond-Dimensional Existence but at this rate, it might very well end up being real.
 
void is using his divine energy + his own. thats why blast stated him to be stronger than garou
Actually blast stated he revived himself with garou energy it’s all of garou energy with void skills blast stated him more of a threat but that can be interpreted multiple ways

Void was literally shriveled up dude and just woke up from a 15 year coma before absorbing garou energy
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Void's power is clearly hax. It doesn't scale to raw stats in any way. I thought this was clear. Garou has no business scaling to the hax either.
 
Actually blast stated he revived himself with garou energy it’s all of garou energy with void skills blast stated him more of a threat but that can be interpreted multiple ways

Void was literally shriveled up dude and just woke up from a 15 year coma before absorbing garou energy
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no, it doesn't mean it's all of garou's energy?

void being damaged doesn't mean he lost all of his divine energy, nor using garou's energy to revive himself.

also void uses hax + has more knowledge about divine power. even if garou could potentially use these haxes, there is no definite proof and wouldn't scale physically
 
no, it doesn't mean it's all of garou's energy?

void being damaged doesn't mean he lost all of his divine energy, nor using garou's energy to revive himself.

also void uses hax + has more knowledge about divine power. even if garou could potentially use these haxes, there is no definite proof and wouldn't scale physically
Why wouldn’t it be all of it? Did garou energy just phase out of existence obviously not the second garou energy starts shooting out void slurps it up

Void body evolved after he absorbed garou energy into a cosmic form this means he had no god energy in him before only his own abilities

Meaning again void is using garou power with his own skills also garou literally did better against saitama then void would most likely do if he fought him rn meaning yes he scales

Not until he fights God.
Doesn’t need to he’s the fist that turned against god for a reason
 
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