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[Emerald]

Consecutive Normal Punch's with one-hand turned Boros into paste. Garou proceeded to match that, and then Blast came along and had an even match with Garou.

Not a good point considering Saitama was holding back to not kill Garou because of Tareo, whereas against Boros he was going for the kill.

Saitama's Normal Punch's which individually mutilated Boros weren't even stinging Cosmic Fear Garou yet he was feeling Blast's enhanced blows.

Gotta remind you that Garou only matches Saitama with Saitama Mode. He has to copy Saitama's stats to even match or even harm him. Garou thought Blast was some nobody and didn't even try to use Saitama Mode on him

Then you have Blast briefly holding back the energy of the SPS which produced a multi-solar level explosion, which would instantly annihilate Boros, leaving nothing but molecules behind.

The only reason we think that is bcs we rate Boros and Blast differently, bcs of their feats. If Boros just showed up and fought Blast with him having statements that he is equal to when he fought Saitama, we would rate him 4-A regardless that his best attack is stated to be High 6-A

Blast also obviously hard blitz's Boros

Again, same point as the one above. Boros is only slower cause he lacks feat and his best scaling is against Saitama


the problem with this is that we don't know how strong Boros truly actually was, cause he fought the god tier of the verse and made him have a good fight. He could be anywhere in the upper tier of the verse, bro could be Initial Awakened Garou's rival for what we know

 

[RinneItachi]

Not a good point considering Saitama was holding back to not kill Garou because of Tareo, whereas against Boros he was going for the kill.

Gotta remind you that Garou only matches Saitama with Saitama Mode. He has to copy Saitama's stats to even match or even harm him. Garou thought Blast was some nobody and didn't even try to use Saitama Mode on him

The only reason we think that is bcs we rate Boros and Blast differently, bcs of their feats. If Boros just showed up and fought Blast with him having statements that he is equal to when he fought Saitama, we would rate him 4-A regardless that his best attack is stated to be High 6-A

Again, same point as the one above. Boros is only slower cause he lacks feat and his best scaling is against Saitama


the problem with this is that we don't know how strong Boros truly actually was, cause he fought the god tier of the verse and made him have a good fight. He could be anywhere in the upper tier of the verse, bro could be Initial Awakened Garou's rival for what we know

Please provide the panel where Saitama says he's holding back his punches on Garou.

I'm not talking about that because we're talking about Blast, who has no durability feats. I'm talking about Garou's durability. Saitama's punches weren't doing anything to him. Even Monster Garou was eating Normal Punch's without a problem.

It would either be called an outlier or it would be accepted, either way, what relevance does this have? You're talking about a hypothetical scenario. In reality Boros is still peaking at High-6-A to maybe 5-B being generous.

Okay, but we're operating on feats and narrative implications. Both suggest that Blast is in a whole league above Boros. We're not talking about fanfictions here.

I mean sure, but the point isn't about how strong he could've been but how strong he was based on what we know and his performance against Saitama. The fact that his strongest attack was multi-continent to planet level also makes this more evident. Even in the recent chapter Genos is unsure what his threat level is, not because Boros was too strong to read or anything but because it was too vague to estimate. Which was likely added specifically BECAUSE of the fact that ONE specifically left the disaster level of Boros (and OG Awakened Garou) vague, teetering between Dragon and God level. This automatically places a cap on how strong Boros can be compared to later characters.

 

[darkphantom9805]

Meanwhile Blast wasn't even focused on Garou either. Neither Blast or Garou were trying very hard and yet Blast was easily keeping up with Garou, landing blows on him, and we literally visibly see that Garou was feeling Blast's punch's, even if he doesn't say so himself.

ughh yes he was lol he was literally saying let’s see who’s better at manipulating the cosmos or something along the line his entire goal was to beat garou as quickly as possible and seal him away cause he was passively killing everyone no we don’t visibly see anything garou literally states after getting combined he wasn’t worth his time what blast was doing is the equivalent of what boros did to saitama knock him around unless of course you think released boros hurt saitama

I didn't say Blast wouldn't get pasted by a Consecutive Normal Punch's, he has no durability feats at all, but the fact is that his attacks were effecting Garou

No evidence of this so head canon and disproven by the fact garou wasn’t worried about blast if blast was truly harming garou he’d show more of a reaction

Even Monster Garou tanked a Two-Handed Consecutive Normal Punch's which was extended for like 3 panels and he wasn't that hurt at all. Yet a WEAKER version of this attack turned Boros into paste. Why coping?

and again saitama punches are not the same saitama like slapped away a full barrage of monster garou attacks with 1 hand then you have the fact he was explicitly holding back due to the kid’s request to stop him without killing him or severely harming + other stuff

You need to prove that Saitama's punch's against Garou were even remotely weaker than they were against Boros otherwise it's just headcanon

Already did boros is a monster with a prophecy that he’d destroy the earth and saitama is known to hold back less on monsters garou is a human where a human kid asked him not to kill or hurt him badly in any way then saitama didn’t want to really fight him in the first place telling him that he’s a bad villain and actually a hero

 

[RinneItachi]

ughh yes he was lol he was literally saying let’s see who’s better at manipulating the cosmos or something along the line his entire goal was to beat garou as quickly as possible and seal him away cause he was passively killing everyone no we don’t visibly see anything garou literally states after getting combined he wasn’t worth his time what blast was doing is the equivalent of what boros did to saitama knock him around unless of course you think released boros hurt saitama


No evidence of this so head canon and disproven by the fact garou wasn’t worried about blast if blast was truly harming garou he’d show more of a reaction


and again saitama punches are not the same saitama like slapped away a full barrage of monster garou attacks with 1 hand then you have the fact he was explicitly holding back due to the kid’s request to stop him without killing him or severely harming + other stuff


Already did boros is a monster with a prophecy that he’d destroy the earth and saitama is known to hold back less on monsters garou is a human where a human kid asked him not to kill or hurt him badly in any way then saitama didn’t want to really fight him in the first place telling him that he’s a bad villain and actually a hero

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He was explicitly not just focused on Garou. They were fighting each other but had other priorities. Blast was focused on saving people, Garou was focused on getting Saitama to bring out his full power, saying Blast isn't worth his attention is not what you're making it out to be, and if it WAS, it'd more so mean that Garou just had a huge ego. He was having trouble taking Blast down, and that's just a fact. Idk how you're trying to say that Garou could no-diff Blast or something. They were clearly in a similar league of power, but Garou was much more interested in Saitama than fighting Blast. And Blast most definitely did not bring out his full arsenal in this battle either. And yes Garou was feeling Blast's punches. Just read the fight.

The real headcanon is you thinking Garou would show "more reaction" if he was feeling Blast's hits.

When did Saitama say "I'm holding back my punches"? And how does him "slapping" away Garou's attacks mean anything?

Please show proof. It's funny you talk about headcanon and then say something wholly unsuggested in the fight.

 

[Engine]

It was Saitama, the prophecy lured him there(inaccurate prophecy)

 

[Engine]

Boros is back, ONE might bring back Orochi again as well. What's up bringing back antagonist powerhouses

I'm not that against of it but it might affect the quality of the story especially in "One Punch Man".

 

[RinneItachi]

It was Saitama, the prophecy lured him there(inaccurate prophecy)

Yeah I mean Boros literally says at the start that his crew believed it was a ruse to lead him away and well, I think that's more likely than this idea that the opponent he looked for was secretly someone else on Earth.

 

[RinneItachi]

Boros is back, ONE might bring back Orochi again as well. What's up bringing back antagonist powerhouses

Doubt it. Boros coming back was foreshadowed by Metal Knight showing up after the battle ended, furthermore we knew it was plausible because Boros is extremely hard to kill. Not to mention Boros was just treated as a way bigger deal than Orochi (sorry Boros haters but that's just the truth).

 

[Emerald]

Orochi was ass, he was just a stepping stone for Psykos to achieve her true power, the bathtub monster vs Dominator of the Universe is not a good comparison

 

[Engine]

Doubt it. Boros coming back was foreshadowed by Metal Knight showing up after the battle ended, furthermore we knew it was plausible because Boros is extremely hard to kill. Not to mention Boros was just treated as a way bigger deal than Orochi (sorry Boros haters but that's just the truth).

Remember Orochi is not in the WC and Metal Knight appeared again at the end of Monster raid

 

[Engine]

Orochi was ass, he was just a stepping stone for Psykos to achieve her true power, the bathtub monster vs Dominator of the Universe is not a good comparison

I don't care. I'm not even comparing those two, but I'm leaning to Orochi more in terms of actual power though

 

[Emerald]

I don't care. I'm not even comparing those two, but I'm leaning to Orochi more in terms of actual power though

And I am saying that he isn't him

 

[RinneItachi]

Orochi was overhyped af ngl. Made out to be a big deal just to get the Saitama treatment and become a jobber.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Made out to be a big deal just to get the Saitama treatment and become a jobber.

I mean that's to be expected. Plus at the time of when he fought Saitama, the only other opponent to put up a decent fight against him was Boros, everyone else was jobbing to this man. And Orochi himself was at least able to dodge some hits from Saitama and actually lasted much longer than every other opponent that wasn't named Boros. So in comparison, Orochi was pretty impressive.

That was before the redraws that is.

 

[RinneItachi]

I mean that's to be expected. Plus at the time of when he fought Saitama, the only other opponent to put up a decent fight against him was Boros, everyone else was jobbing to this man. And Orochi himself was at least able to dodge some hits from Saitama and actually lasted much longer than every other opponent that wasn't named Boros. So in comparison, Orochi was pretty impressive.

That was before the redraws that is.

I don't mean he shouldn't done better against Saitama I'm saying he shouldn't have encountered Saitama yet. He could've done a lot more. Meeting Saitama was like a pre-mature death sentence.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

I don't mean he shouldn't done better against Saitama I'm saying he shouldn't have encountered Saitama yet. He could've done a lot more. Meeting Saitama was like a pre-mature death sentence.

Yeah, I think it was because they really wanted to do Psykorochi.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Honestly, I think it would've been cooler if Garou finished his monster transformation by killing Orochi, ya know, the monster king, instead of Golden Sperm or Sage Centipede.

 

[Recon1511]

Isn't WC Garou supposed to be the equal to WC Boros? I mean that's what that ancient statement from ONE is only useful for

 

[Emerald]

Isn't WC Garou supposed to be the equal to WC Boros? I mean that's what that ancient statement from ONE is only useful for

They are equalish, Boros is supposed to be stronger

 

[Recon1511]

Well that settles that no? Webcomic Boros equal was supposed to be Webcomic Garou

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Isn't WC Garou supposed to be the equal to WC Boros? I mean that's what that ancient statement from ONE is only useful for

Yeah. I think he said Boros was somewhat stronger and had better range, but Garou is more skilled.

 

[Epiccheev]

What if Saitama's real name was Onelius Punchbert?

 

[Recon1511]

Anyway, the battle suits are crazy strong. The full output seems to be Dragon level, the Neo Leaders suits like Suiryu's should even be more powerful which means that Garou, who only got a small nosebleed from a fully powered barrage from Suiryu, is already superior to monster Sweet Mask.

 

[Quangotjokes]

It was probably Saitama. Blast doesn't make much sense because Blast would destroy Boros no-low-diff. Tatsumaki maybe but I doubt it it doesn't feel right and she was literally right there when he was attacking. Genos I also doubt just cause it really don't feel right.

Garou I could see.

I mean who knows, wouldn’t be the first time a fictional character was much stronger than originally lead on to believe.

 

[Quangotjokes]

On another note, this means Boros survived his ship exploding even after being heavily damaged.

 

[SlendVeny]

On another note, this means Boros survived his ship exploding even after being heavily damaged.

Willing to bet the explosion is only like tier 7-8

 

[Quangotjokes]

Willing to bet the explosion is only like tier 7-8

Scales to ships dura

 

[SlendVeny]

Scales to ships dura

Would the portion Boros took scale to that?

 

[Farfetchedx]

Tier 6 OPM Mid-Tier Upgrades

So as of right now the mid tiers of the verse such as bang, golden sperm, Platinum sperm, flashy flash, post darkshine garou etc. is currently at High 7-A. I believe they are extremely lowballed and they should be rated a lot higher. For example the scaling chain for post darkshine garou goes...

vsbattles.com

 

[Pepsiman25th]

new chapter out or nah?

 

[Pepsiman25th]

Nvm. I just read it. That was some gore right there. Aint even tryna hide anything

 

[RinneItachi]

I mean who knows, wouldn’t be the first time a fictional character was much stronger than originally lead on to believe.

The problem is that statements have put a cap on his strength. If Boros was suddenly on the same level as characters like Blast it would outright retcon his strength. He capped at planet surface-planet level with his absolute strongest attack which was implied to be a literal suicide move. On top of that he wasn't strong enough to be a confirmed God level, only on the brink of it or so. I mean by definition he should be a God level threat but ONE's words are most important. Then you just have basic scaling. Boros strength wasn't really that unknown. If anything it was only unknown how strong he was in his Armored and Released forms. We knew his full power fairly well, we just aren't certain how it compares to the rest of the cast, but it's not quite on the league of the god tiers. Of course he could just get buffed but, I mean we'll see.

 

[Ourosboros]

There's also so much to talk about with the Neo-Heroes again.

We need to talk about the neo-hero suit situation.

Firstly, what the hell is with the power level of the released suits??? If the Soda-Pop boys are a good example, they're all automatically about base Fuhrer Ugly level whether the user is Mumen rider tier or a neo-leader? WTF?

There's 2,000 Neo-Heroes, most are being controlled and all of whom might be dragons.

I thought it was crazy when the Organization showed 12 presumably dragon level machine gods, but that's overruled by the fact that they also have about 2,000 s-class level slaves now. I know that the suits have the obvious weakness of an exposed, very weak head (why no helmets Organization?) but their speed is unclear given how they were able to surprise Amai but haven't killed weak-af Accel yet.

Secondly, why right now? Seems like the Soda Pop Boys deciding not to turn Amai immediately prompted the take-over. Couldn't the Organization/Fuzzy waited until after the crisis to go full-out skynet and let the rest of humanity put on the suits before enslaving them? Odd-time to activate your doomsday plan anyhow.

Finally, curious who's going to save PPP since Raiden's about to kill him... The only s-class who are maybe strong enough and available are Atomic and Bang, and neither should be anywhere near J-city where PPP is right now. Are we finally going to get an s-class death here? I doubt it but you'll need to tell me who you think will save PPP

 

[Ourosboros]

Oh yeah, also quick list of the neo-hero leaders and their probable status.

CONTROLLED
Raiden (confirmed): about to kill PPP
Zaedats (confirmed): unknown location, cyberized corpse puppet
Infelsinave (confirmed): unknown location, cyberized corpse puppet
Suiryu (unconfirmed): unknown location, last seen wearing suit fighting organization drones

FREE
Child Emperor (confirmed): about to beat up an old man
Accel (confirmed): running for his life like the bincho he is
Blue (confirmed): near Saitama (can his suit control him?)

OTHER
Ryumon: being a big jerk of his own free will at Neo HQ
'A': also being a big jerk of his own free will at Neo HQ
Webigaza: Having a mental & physical breakdown near Amai Mask
Metal Bat: Trying to break out of his prison at Neo HQ

 

[Worthless]

The problem is that statements have put a cap on his strength. If Boros was suddenly on the same level as characters like Blast it would outright retcon his strength. He capped at planet surface-planet level with his absolute strongest attack which was implied to be a literal suicide move. On top of that he wasn't strong enough to be a confirmed God level, only on the brink of it or so. I mean by definition he should be a God level threat but ONE's words are most important. Then you just have basic scaling. Boros strength wasn't really that unknown. If anything it was only unknown how strong he was in his Armored and Released forms. We knew his full power fairly well, we just aren't certain how it compares to the rest of the cast, but it's not quite on the league of the god tiers. Of course he could just get buffed but, I mean we'll see.

If I'm being honest, Blast being beyond planetary is kinda iffy, considering his and their reaction to a planet bulging. One way to look at this is to stop thinking about wherever you scale him at, which should be, as he literally has zero DC feat aside from punching and pushing CF Garou who doesn't even consider him a threat. Saying the prophecy is about Saitama doesn't really make sense, as Saitama 20 years ago is just some powerless kid. By how the story is going (The character that looks like Boros and the fact that Blast has been working as a hero for more than 18 years) it's more likely referring to him more than anyone else. But this is just my opinion. I can also see it being Garou if the old lady is talking about the future warrior on earth rather than the present warrior.

 

[Ourosboros]

If I'm being honest, Blast being beyond planetary is kinda iffy, considering his and their reaction to a planet bulging. One way to look at this is to stop thinking about wherever you scale him at, which should be, as he literally has zero DC feat aside from punching and pushing CF Garou who doesn't even consider him a threat. Saying the prophecy is about Saitama doesn't really make sense, as Saitama 20 years ago is just some powerless kid. By how the story is going (The character that looks like Boros and the fact that Blast has been working as a hero for more than 18 years) it's more likely referring to him more than anyone else. But this is just my opinion. I can also see it being Garou if the old lady is talking about the future warrior on earth rather than the present warrior.

I say his reaction to the planet bulging is not a hard cap on his power level since Blast is a human who has family on earth. It's fair to be concerned about the earth's shape instantaneously changing for any reason if you care about it still existing.

Also need to say we've only seen two offensive attacks from him. First one, gravity knuckle, smushed Cosmic Garou's face and may have drawn blood. As for the other one, dimension cannon, we have no idea what that does. He definitely has other moves, most likely homing black hole spam, which might be too dangerous to use on earth.

 

[Worthless]

I say his reaction to the planet bulging is not a hard cap on his power level since Blast is a human who has family on earth. It's fair to be concerned about the earth's shape instantaneously changing for any reason if you care about it still existing.

Yeah, but it still puts doubt in my mind. I see Blast as a character who relies on tricky and fancy techniques rather than strength. This might be the reason why he is still alive despite constant attempts to stop GOD.

 

[Ourosboros]

Yeah, but it still puts doubt in my mind. I see Blast as a character who relies on tricky and fancy techniques rather than strength. This might be the reason why he is still alive despite constant attempts to stop GOD.

And maybe he never gets feats beyond multi-continental or moon level, who knows.

Just remember people were joking about how Awakened Garou's best on-screen feats could be island level in the manga for years, it's a possibility but we've been surprised by redraw Orochi, Psykorochi and AG in the manga. There's no way to predict these things in any case

 

[darkphantom9805]

The problem is that statements have put a cap on his strength. If Boros was suddenly on the same level as characters like Blast it would outright retcon his strength. He capped at planet surface-planet level with his absolute strongest attack which was implied to be a literal suicide move. On top of that he wasn't strong enough to be a confirmed God level, only on the brink of it or so. I mean by definition he should be a God level threat but ONE's words are most important. Then you just have basic scaling. Boros strength wasn't really that unknown. If anything it was only unknown how strong he was in his Armored and Released forms. We knew his full power fairly well, we just aren't certain how it compares to the rest of the cast, but it's not quite on the league of the god tiers. Of course he could just get buffed but, I mean we'll see.

No we don’t or you’d be like we have statements that cap the serious punch clash at planet level or monster garou is is mountain level for surprised that saitama took an attack that destroyed a mountain or blast is max earth bulging level since him in his crew were stunned that was possible for anyone to do on earth and calling them strong?

Also why lie the CSRC is not a suicidal attack or never stated that or implied he said he’s putting all his energy in it so when Goku doesn’t a kamehameha max power is that suicidal obviously not the same thing applies to boros he only died because he used his power + got hit by the serious punch at the same time which was several times stronger then his max attack

Obviously he’s not on the level as the true god tiers like god cosmic garou and saitama

 

[Worthless]

Or, by the time Boros used the CSRC, a large portion of his energy is already gone, since it's the only logical counter against Cap at MC+. There is also the star-level thingy in the data book, so who knows. The suicidal argument is, I agree, a moot point. We have literally seen him survive the shockwave that originated from the same punch that nullified his CSRC, showcasing the overwhelming chadness he possesses with or without the energy.