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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!

King said:
Tatsumaki scales to Psykos in speed. So, she hasn't shown any resistance to being blitzed.
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She has a passive barrier so it's on even if she isn't aware of an attacm
King said:
And in cases of being off- guard; she clearly didn't have a passive barrier on. So, I don't know where this argument of a passive barrier appearing comes from when her opponent can literally knock her head off, before the thought of putting up a barrier even comes to her mind.
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The whole Psykorochi point blank beam shows that she had a passive barrier since no spherical barrier showed up and she was clearly shocked by the blast meaning she didn't expect it which means she wasn't actively defending against it.

Saying that her base naked body tanked it makes no real sense since she should be naked otherwise and also, it's kinda dumb to think that Tatsumaki's physical body has low 5-B durability but suddenly can get harmed by tier 7's once she's tired, clearly it links to her own abilities.
 
I'm under the impression that Tatsumaki's barriers are passive, so it doesn't matter if she knows you're coming because the barrier is already there. That's what I remember happening when Orochi sneaked up on her before he merged with Psykos.

She should tank and then flatten everything within 100 kilometers with super gravity/psychic binding/whatever she wants and catch, then annihilate PS.
 
King said:
There is a difference between too fast to see and too fast to even get time to think.
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While PS is busy barraging Tatsumaki's passive barrier she puts up a city sized barrier with PS encased inside it, then she shrinks it until PS gets crushed against said city sized barrier and her own passive one.

Your wanking speed so hard rn, an FTL mountain level character can't do anything to a much slower small planet level character.

It's like saying a MHS fly can beat a subsonic tank 💀.
 
AtomicSekiro said:
????

So, in conclusion, blitzting does nothing unless you either:

A. Strip away her powers completely and not make it an actual fight.
B. Have it be a fight but Tatsumaki just randomly decides to not have her defences up for whatever reason, which would be a first.
or C. Have her assassinated when she’s passed out in the middle of the night after drinking.

Which just goes to show how hard she stomps in an actual fight without arbitraility restricting her.
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No, because as we said before, blitz will work when you take the person by surprise, in case it didn't happen with PsychOrochi

but the opposite happened, she was taken by surprise by Psychorochi while her attention was on saving the heroes and was wounded off guard.


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If no one noticed, I originally said that it was a 50/50 chance depending upon the timing of the encounter. I never said that PS stomps each time. smh
SemiRaedi said:
She has a passive barrier so it's on even if she isn't aware of an attacm

The whole Psykorochi point blank beam shows that she had a passive barrier since no spherical barrier showed up and she was clearly shocked by the blast meaning she didn't expect it which means she wasn't actively defending against it.

Saying that her base naked body tanked it makes no real sense since she should be naked otherwise and also, it's kinda dumb to think that Tatsumaki's physical body has low 5-B durability but suddenly can get harmed by tier 7's once she's tired, clearly it links to her own abilities.
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She saw the attack coming her way. We even see a panel of her reacting to it. She wasn't blitzed, it wasn't a passive barrier.
 
SemiRaedi said:
While PS is busy barraging Tatsumaki's passive barrier she puts up a city sized barrier with PS encased inside it, then she shrinks it until PS gets crushed against said city sized barrier and her own passive one.

Your wanking speed so hard rn, an FTL mountain level character can't do anything to a much slower small planet level character.

It's like saying a MHS fly can beat a subsonic tank 💀.
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As I said, none of the barriers against Psykorochi were passive and the only case where it was needed (the electric shock one) it didn't work.
 
Muuuuh said:
No, because as we said before, blitz will work when you take the person by surprise, in case it didn't happen with PsychOrochi
but the opposite happened, she was taken by surprise by Psychorochi while her attention was on saving the heroes and was wounded off guard.
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No physical barrier shown, clearly shocked reactions and if her base durability tanked that then it wouldn't make sense that Fuher Ugly could damage her later on due to the AP gap between what she tanked her and FU's punches.

King said:
She saw the attack coming her way. We even see a panel of her reacting to it. She wasn't blitzed, it wasn't a passive barrier.
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If a gun is suddenly pointed inches away from your face and shoots half a second later then you saw the attack coming since you still saw the gun pointed at you even if it was only for an instant right? So that means you could have definitely reacted to the attack right?

King said:
As I said, none of the barriers against Psykorochi were passive and the only case where it was needed (the electric shock one) it didn't work.
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The spears that Psykorochi used against Tatsumaki where the same spears that could mess around with her barrier earlier so it's plausible that they could negate them so it isn't a good argument to use.
 
Muuuuh said:
No, because as we said before, blitz will work when you take the person by surprise, in case it didn't happen with PsychOrochi

but the opposite happened, she was taken by surprise by Psychorochi while her attention was on saving the heroes and was wounded off guard.
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Yes, but Psykorochi is much stronger than PS and has anti-esper abilities with those rods. If she wasn't that strong and didn't have those abilities, she would have never been able to pierce Tatsumaki's barrier, and died when Tatsumaki tried to respond (before her second hand got stabbed).

If the barrier is passive, it doesn't matter if PS is 100X faster than Tatsumaki can observe or 10x faster than she can think. The barrier is there when he starts moving and when he throws his first punch. As soon as Tatsumaki realizes she's being hit she can just flatten the whole area. PS either needs to be strong enough to overcome her passive defense or fast enough to get out of range (which could be as much as 150, 200 kilometers judging from the extent of her coast lift) before she can think, which would require him to be absurdly faster than her. Like not MHS+ vs FTL difference, but MHS+ vs MFTL difference.
 
SemiRaedi said:
No physical barrier shown, clearly shocked reactions and if her base durability tanked that then it wouldn't make sense that Fuher Ugly could damage her later on due to the AP gap between what she tanked her and FU's punches.
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She is literally covered in energy
 
She later on even says "what was that?" Showing that she couldn't even grasp what actually happened to her.
Muuuuh said:
if we're going to use wecoomic it's even easier since GoldenSperm blitzes her and hits her from behind giving her a brain hemorrhage
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In the webcomic GS barely does any actual damage (while she is on her deathbed) and is even the one to say she had a barrier up (also do you have a scan for the brain hemorrhage bit since it's been awhile since I read the fight)
Muuuuh said:
She is literally covered in energy
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Which is what we described as her passive barrier, since it's depicted differently from the manual physical barriers and she says on the next page "What was that?" suggesting she literally didn't know what hit her.
 
EmilioRory10 said:
Pretty sure she's referring to the sudden power up
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The whole what...was that? With the whole pause suggests confusion which aligns more with not being able to react or see what happened.

Then again we'd just be arguing semantics and it was more of a back up point anyways.
 
SemiRaedi said:
In the webcomic GS barely does any actual damage (while she is on her deathbed) and is even the one to say she had a barrier up (also do you have a scan for the brain hemorrhage bit since it's been awhile since I read the fight)
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He hurt her and hurt a lot

The moment of attack

She wounded on the ground after the attack

Zombieman saying she was in bad condition
SemiRaedi said:
Which is what we described as her passive barrier, since it's depicted differently from the manual physical barriers and she says on the next page "What was that?" suggesting she literally didn't know what hit her.
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No, this is the common barrier around an Esper's entire body, it can create other types of force field as well. To be something passive, even being caught by surprise, you must defend it.
 
Muuuuh said:
He hurt her and hurt a lot

The moment of attack

She wounded on the ground after the attack
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She had wounds prior to being attacked by him
Muuuuh said:
Zombieman saying she was in bad condition
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Despite her injuries could be refering to literally everything that has happened (mainly Psykos' attack, let's be real)
Muuuuh said:
No, this is the common barrier around an Esper's entire body, it can create other types of force field as well. To be something passive, even being caught by surprise, you must defend it.
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Why would she be surprised by the beam if she was using a common barrier to defend against it.

And the beam literally caught her by surprise and she took 0 damage meaning she defended against it.
 
Muuuuh said:
my post above shows that this is not what happened
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Your post only showed her getting "blitzed" (golden himself states she defended against it) and it's never shown that golden gave her brain damage and is much more likely it was Psykos since she used a psychic attack towards Tatsumaki's head (I forgot if it was actually stated so if it wasn't then it's way more likely for Psykos' attack to be the cause of her hemorrhage then GS)
 
SemiRaedi said:
She had wounds prior to being attacked by him

Despite her injuries could be refering to literally everything that has happened (mainly Psykos' attack, let's be real)
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No, she was completely fine before she was beaten.

Fine here

You guys give Psyco from webcomic too much credit, she didn't do anything




SemiRaedi said:
Why would she be surprised by the beam if she was using a common barrier to defend against it.

And the beam literally caught her by surprise and she took 0 damage meaning she defended against it.
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I don't know, it wasn't me who brought this from the lightning to the argument, please show when he was caught off guard by this lightning without being covered in energy or something
 
SemiRaedi said:
Your post only showed her getting "blitzed" (golden himself states she defended against it) and it's never shown that golden gave her brain damage and is much more likely it was Psykos since she used a psychic attack towards Tatsumaki's head (I forgot if it was actually stated so if it wasn't then it's way more likely for Psykos' attack to be the cause of her hemorrhage then GS)
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Then explain how she was without bleeding before GS hits and after she was covered in blood
 
If it works like mob psycho (and it very likely does considering she didn't get pasted by the continent slicer) then all espers have a passive barrier that works all the time including while being asleep and an active barrier ( the orb shaped barrier) that can block attacks equal to their AP before shattering.

Going by that you would actually need comparable AP to hurt Tatsumaki. If we are being generous, PS should at least be within 1000x below her AP to deal microchip damage with a massive Speed blitz.
 
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