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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!

King said:
Yeah, other than the weight, I also support the calculation. it was huge, huge calc, and I am amazed at how much time Darth devoted to it.
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Haha, me too. Because I will calc these things eventually in the months to come if nobody else does, I appreciate him doing the work because there was so much to do here. I expect the weight will be cut in half about, but the characters should still get upgraded.
 
Also, it should be noted that Tatsumaki still >> these guys. She broke Flashy's blade with her telekinesis just by severing that entire area off, not even knowing it was there. And Flashy with a blade > Platinum and Garou without the God-slayer fist.
 
Ourosboros said:
Also, it should be noted that Tatsumaki still >> these guys. She broke Flashy's blade with her telekinesis just by severing that entire area off, not even knowing it was there. And Flashy with a blade > Platinum and Garou without the God-slayer fist.
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Breaking the sword isn't a good way to scale as swords are susceptible to side damage. But yeah, she's still far stronger.
 
Yeah I do believe Tatsumaki is still much stronger but Flashy Flash already stated that his arm is more durable than his sword so breaking the sword isn’t really impressive.
 
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If he's so much more durable than his weapon, it sounds like Garou or Platinum would easily break it if they wrapped their hands (or tentacle in Platinum's case) around it. If rubble of all things can break it, it really must not be durable at all.
 
Ourosboros said:
If he's so much more durable than his weapon, it sounds like Garou or Platinum would easily break it if they wrapped their hands (or tentacle in Platinum's case) around it. If rubble of all things can break it, it really must not be durable at all.
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The durability of his sword is decided by the needs of the plot.
It broke due to rubble yet could withstand cutting through two Dragons at once.
 
Rubble breaking the sword (Tatsumaki broke it, but even if was only rubble) falls under the lack of calcs in the author's head

Someone like Flashy Flash (7-B/Relativistic+, on his ways for a upgrade) could just go through it and arrive at the battlefield in a instant, but he "can't"
 
Those definitely aren't all stones, in a lot of that they are just colliding with each other and then (somehow) flying away and colliding with each other again.

They should all get Pseudo-Flight.
 
I feel like if these guys don't get a new tier, eventually Garou will jump from 7-B to 5-C without a Mid between both Tiers lol

Are they (FF, PS and Pre AG) Above Dragon ? Or absolute peak High Dragon ? I feel like a new Dragon Tier needs to be done between High and Above, like Super Dragon maybe
 
Phoenks said:
Those definitely aren't all stones, in a lot of that they are just colliding with each other and then (somehow) flying away and colliding with each other again.

They should all get Pseudo-Flight.
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And while we talk about new abilities, Monster Garou should probably get ''Improved Reactive Instincts'' noting that he can now fight unconscious at the price of some skill loss. (Against Superalloy Darkshine he couldn't even use WSRSF, but after waking up could use both WSRF WICF and Cross fang dragon slaying fist. After Awakening he seems to no longer have this weakness, being even more skilled than his previous base)
 
Yeah and there's more proof of his instincts given he instinctively reacted to an attack from flashy flash
 
Peter1129 said:
Murata and ONE really should’ve just added an extra tier in between Dragon and God. Cause there’s currently way too many “Dragon” lvl threats in the series that shouldn’t even be considered dragons in the first place.
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That could be fixed if the level "Dragon" was a bit harder to appear, but things escalated way faster than I expected and the level is being pushed multiple times, currently reaching 5-C+ which should be a God level tier going by the descriptions

Well, to be fair, "High Dragon" also appears too much in the fanbase and I'm sure many "High Dragons" out there are actually Mid, the forgotten Dragon tier.

If High Dragon actually started around Manga Golden Sperm, things get easier to fit the Threat level, I believe
 
Lightning_XXI said:
That could be fixed if the level "Dragon" was a bit harder to appear, but things escalated way faster than I expected and the level is being pushed multiple times, currently reaching 5-C+ which should be a God level tier going by the descriptions

Well, to be fair, "High Dragon" also appears too much in the fanbase and I'm sure many "High Dragons" out there are actually Mid, the forgotten Dragon tier.

If High Dragon actually started around Manga Golden Sperm, things get easier to fit the Threat level, I believe
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That is true things just escalated really quickly.

I mean I personally just consider whoever can defeat Dragon lvl threats rather easily as Mid Dragon. High Dragon is the tier that I consider only the dragons that are far above those characters are for.

Like I believe standard Mid Dragon is somebody like Drive Knight who can rather easily defeat Dragon lvl threats like Nyan.

And to me High Dragon would be somebody like Elder Centipede who is massively beyond everyone else by lore.
 
Peter1129 said:
That is true things just escalated really quickly.

I mean I personally just consider whoever can defeat Dragon lvl threats rather easily as Mid Dragon. High Dragon is the tier that I consider only the dragons that are far above those characters are for.

Like I believe standard Mid Dragon is somebody like Drive Knight who can rather easily defeat Dragon lvl threats like Nyan.

And to me High Dragon would be somebody like Elder Centipede who is massively beyond everyone else by lore.
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Well Post Molt EC is, I guess, at AB Bang level ? That's pretty much close to the 3 dragon speedsters already since this Bang fought a weaker, but close, Garou

Darkshine and VFU I guess would be top Mid Dragon, Golden Sperm smoking those two casually opens the High Dragon level. Gouketsu, Sun Blade Atomic and Homeless' Stronger Orbs also go into High Dragon. Then the peak is currently Flashy Flash, Platinum S and Pre Awakening Garou
 
Lightning_XXI said:
Well Post Molt EC is, I guess, at AB Bang level ? That's pretty much close to the 3 dragon speedsters already since this Bang fought a weaker, but close, Garou

Darkshine and VFU I guess would be top Mid Dragon, Golden Sperm smoking those two casually opens the High Dragon level. Gouketsu, Sun Blade Atomic and Homeless' Stronger Orbs also go into High Dragon. Then the peak is currently Flashy Flash, Platinum S and Pre Awakening Garou
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I’m actually talking about Pre-Molt Elder Centipede here. I believe Pre-Molt Elder Centipede is the start of High Dragon. I consider the peak of Mid Dragon to be Base Bang, Bomb, and Gouketsu.

Also there is this tierlist maker here with almost every character in the series that is tiger or higher though it is missing quite a lot of characters forms. So might as well make a tier list to show what you consider the different lvls of each disaster lvl.
 
So that calc for Garou's strength that was sent earlier, is it accurate at all?
 
Just realized that both Psykos and Tatsumaki are close to receive a Speed upgrade, that being the possibility of Garou fighting Orochi next chapter, and, of course, if Orochi actually manages to keep up with him
 
Ourosboros said:
How are you proposing the calc should be altered?
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I think this whole speedster battle is a plus side in any which way, if there’s a decrease in there AP, that would result in a technical speed increase due to directional changing and with physics applied. So the balance would be more AP, less Speed or more Speed, less AP. And that is if someone can do a 3D angular scaling for the distance traveled and get the background trails aswell. I think…
 
 
Then we should gather the Light Standards and see if those match them enough to be considered Lightspeed

They being faster than those lights is just one of many steps

Edit: The Standards are:

  • The beam refracts in a new material, such as a liquid or...
  • The beam diffuses in a reasonably realistic way or reflects off a material that it can be expected to, such as a non-magical mirror.
  • The beam is called lightspeed by reliable sources.
  • It is stated to be composed/consisting of photons or light itself, again by a reliable source.
  • It has its origin at a realistic source of light, such as a camera.
 
USklaverei said:
Reading the other fights that happened something like the last fight, we see that this is totally different now.
For example, in FF vs GW and HF collided several times, the trail is only shown to us for the moment, after they have just collided, the thing is not there anymore. However, when Hellfire and Gale kicked Flashy, their trails of fire and wind left behind, with them frozen in midair as they moved.
Now in the current fight, this is completely different, even when they are ''still'' we can clearly see the light trails frozen in the air, which suggests that this is not merely his motion trails as he did before, it's literally them being faster than this ''light''.
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Another thing to note, while moving flash is shrouded in that light.


The same shroud that Plat and garou were in when forming the light.

 
Qawsedf234 said:
I mean, they fit absolutely no standard of lightspeed. They're just aura trails and they don't outrun them.
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yeah trying to fit them glowing in their fight to being light speed is really stretching imo

but then again people were betting on the feat being somehow MFTL, so it's not that surprising
 
They only have the "stated to be Light be reliable sources", but it's only 1 and I guess that wouldn't be enough. And, well, maybe the "The beam diffuses in a reasonably realistic way" considering each lime travel at straight lines except when the source (One of the 3) changes the direction

So even if we consider them faster than those lights, that doesn't mean they are SoL or FTL yet
 
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