STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!

[RinneItachi]

There's still ongoing debate, and it seems there isn't a general consensus yet. When a CRT is made one or two month-ish later, I can see folks definitely bringing up MFTL+/Infinite speed for Saitama and arguing for it (I’m more inclined to interpret that the dimension blade started from a location near Earth, not the edge of the universe).

In any case, bring your popcorn when the time comes lol.

My take is pretty simple.

EV's Dimensional Slash obviously works on the specific area he chooses. He's precisely targeting the land where Blast and co. are located, and so the blade starts from right there. As for the blade itself, while it is coming from a higher-dimension, that doesn't necessarily mean it holds much significant power. Ultimately even fodders like Flashy Flash and Sonic can somewhat react to it, and it's only stated to cut space in this context. When it enters the main reality that EV is targetting, it appears to still be a 3-dimensional object/energy, it's just that EV being outside of reality obviously gives him numerous huge advantages and the attack itself is virtually unstoppable by normal 3-dimensional beings and matter. The fact that Saitama can just grab it is another very impressive non-physical interaction type feat. By no means does it make him a higher-dimensional being, much less upgrade him to whatever ridiculous AP tier people will argue.

 

[RinneItachi]

I mean that is the very blatant obvious my guy saitama is the fist that turned against god what do you think will happen when saitama fights gods do you think they will trade blows in a cosmic clash or he points his finger one shots saitama na fends the manga in 1 chapter lol

Your opinion and interpretation is subjective. We don't know what will happen with the God story line or how it will play out, especially because ONE is a subversive author.

 

[Emerald]

Deku only wincon is landing a Fajin + Gearshift punch and kill garou with it

 

[Redcated]

Ultimately even fodders like Flashy Flash and Sonic can somewhat react to it

When did they react to it?

 

[darkphantom9805]

Your opinion and interpretation is subjective. We don't know what will happen with the God story line or how it will play out, especially because ONE is a subversive author.

no we know exactly how it will play out saitama scales to god that’s how that’s literally how the story is written saitama is unbeatable in his own verse ONE has made that clear

 

[darkphantom9805]

When did they react to it?

They didn’t people just make that up if flashy and sonic fodder could react to it then blast would effortlessly Dodge it due to the sheer speed difference yet blast was just as helpless as them without Saitama saving them

 

[RinneItachi]

When did they react to it?

 

[RinneItachi]

no we know exactly how it will play out saitama scales to god that’s how that’s literally how the story is written saitama is unbeatable in his own verse ONE has made that clear

No, we don't. You're stating a likelihood and your opinion as a fact. And would it kill you to use comma's, so hard to read.

 

[RinneItachi]

They didn’t people just make that up if flashy and sonic fodder could react to it then blast would effortlessly Dodge it due to the sheer speed difference yet blast was just as helpless as them without Saitama saving them

Now you're just flat out lying.

 

[darkphantom9805]

Now you're just flat out lying.

saying I’m lying yet your evidence for them reacting are panels of them not reacting to the slash like is this genuinely a joke? Flashy had some sort of pre cog there due to his interaction to god you quite literally see it in the panels you posted dawg

No, we don't. You're stating a likelihood and your opinion as a fact. And would it kill you to use comma's, so hard to read.

because it is a fact read the manga not hard to understand

 

[Redcated]

Sonic literally doesn't know what happened

And flash just sense it (the same way blast did in the HA) before void could strike, he didn't react to the slashing speed

it appears to still be a 3-dimensional object/energy

Where did you get that idea?

 

[Redcated]

There's so many instances of the blade becoming higher dimensional object while in the higher dimension

1. The most obvious, it's striking down from the higher dimension (try stabbing a knife in a paper let's see if it become a 2-d object)
2. Can't be comprehend(that's why its invisible)
3. It's size change despite no indication it can change size

 

[Coomandar]

murata just dropped the chaos with the lastest chapter lol

 

[RinneItachi]

saying I’m lying yet your evidence for them reacting are panels of them not reacting to the slash like is this genuinely a joke? Flashy had some sort of pre cog there due to his interaction to god you quite literally see it in the panels you posted dawg


because it is a fact read the manga not hard to understand

As usual you speak a lot without saying much. Flash reacted to it.

Sonic literally doesn't know what happened

And flash just sense it (the same way blast did in the HA) before void could strike, he didn't react to the slashing speed

Where did you get that idea?

He literally reacts to the attack as it's coming at them you asked me to show you and I did, but clearly you never acknowledged the objective feat and asked rhetorically?

It's physically present and literally visible on the planet as a mass of energy and interacts with its surroundings. Cutting through space doesn't inherently make it higher-dimensional, nor coming from a higher-dimension.

 

[RinneItachi]

There's so many instances of the blade becoming higher dimensional object while in the higher dimension

1. The most obvious, it's striking down from the higher dimension (try stabbing a knife in a paper let's see if it become a 2-d object)
2. Can't be comprehend(that's why its invisible)
3. It's size change despite no indication it can change size

I'm not talking about the higher-dimension, I'm talking about on Earth, where the attack is actually physically present. Void is projecting his attacks into reality from the higher-dimension. When they enter the plain reality, there's not really a strong indication that they are higher-dimensional in nature, and in fact they don't appear that way at all, just that they ignore space and destroy anything in their way, except for Saitama. They have seemingly no 4th-dimensional or 5th-dimensional properties.

 

[Redcated]

He literally reacts to the attack as it's coming at them you asked me to show you and I did, but clearly you never acknowledged the objective feat and asked rhetorically?

So your saying Void dimension slash is somehow slower than his base speed? Do you have any idea how ridiculous it sounds?

there's not really a strong indication that they are higher-dimensional in nature, and in fact they don't appear that way at all, just that they ignore space and destroy anything in their way, except for Saitama. They have seemingly no 4th-dimensional or 5th-dimensional properties.

You know what? im just gonna wait for the inevitable CRT that will make Void a smurf

 

[RinneItachi]

So your saying Void dimension slash is somehow slower than his base speed? Do you have any idea how ridiculous it sounds?

You know what? im just gonna wait for the inevitable CRT that will make Void a smurf

No? This doesn't make any sense lol. Just cause they perceived it doesn't mean they're faster than the Dimensional Slash which I never claimed.

Cool. That wasn't why I was having this discussion lol.

 

[Wardokman69]

He literally reacts to the attack as it's coming at them

Flash only reacted to the effect after the attack reached Earth surface, not the moment the attack was launched, and even then, the attack wasn't aimed at him, but to Sonic.

 

[JustANormalPerson01]

Tbh, I always interpreted Flash as predicting "It's going to happen the same of what happened in HA!" and then start evading before the attack was landed.

Which makes way more sense than him reacting to an attack he wasn't even looking at from a character way faster than what he is

 

[RinneItachi]

That's all fine and well but what happens in the manga is Flash looks up and sees the attack coming then warns Sonic and at least makes an attempt to dodge. It didn't perception blitz him.

 

[JustANormalPerson01]

He didn't look up, though?

 

[Wardokman69]

That's all fine and well but what happens in the manga is Flash looks up and sees the attack coming then warns Sonic and at least makes an attempt to dodge. It didn't perception blitz him.

He didn't even looking up. Literally the direction of the attack was in front of him. Read again bro.

 

[RinneItachi]

He didn't look up, though?

Looking down.
Realizes.
Looks up.
"Here it comes!" while attack is approaching.
Tries to dodge.

 

[JustANormalPerson01]

He didn't look up out there, though. The only head movement we see is the one he makes to tell Sonic to be careful

 

[Wardokman69]

He's looking sideway at sonic.

 

[Kin201]

In this panel, you can also see that all three of them are looking at the exact direction/spot the blade descends before it even starts moving or while it moves toward them.

 

[RinneItachi]

He didn't look up out there, though. The only head movement we see is the one he makes to tell Sonic to be careful

I wasn't saying that. I'm saying he reacted as the attack was coming at them.

 

[RinneItachi]

In this panel, you can also see that all three of them are looking at the exact direction/spot the blade descends before it even starts moving or while it moves toward them.

Oh yeah here they're 100% reacting to it lol.

 

[Phoenks]

TLDR

What is this threads current view of the Saitama catching Dimensional Slash thing?

Non-Physical Interaction (4-D, possibly 5-D — Snatched Empty Void's Dimensional Blades by grasping the spatial abstraction of them emanating down from hyperspace,[1] and then physically pulled Empty Void's higher-dimensional body down with them.[1] Punched his way into[2] Phoenix Man's pocket dimension, which was described as being a spiritual space. Moved around[3] and kicked away[4] Garou's Hyperspace Gates as if they were physical constructs)

Extrasensory Perception and Cosmic Awareness (Could see the Dimensional Slash,[1] which is an invisible, spatial construct.[5][6][4] Sensed the Dimensional Slash coming[1] from a place that is outside the causality of the universe[6])

Resistance to Spatial Manipulation (4-D, possibly 5-D — Effortlessly caught Empty Void's Dimensional Slashes, attacks from a higher-dimension[4] beyond the causality of the universe,[6] that explicitly ignore distance, energy, and size,[7] and that cut through space itself,[1] between the tips of his fingers[1])

 

[Wardokman69]

In this panel, you can also see that all three of them are looking at the exact direction/spot the blade descends before it even starts moving or while it moves toward them.

Reacted to it's "Descend".

They didn't, except for Blast, but he's paralyzed and unable to do anything.

They only see the trajectory of the attack just like how Flash see it earlier.

 

[JustANormalPerson01]

and then physically pulled Empty Void's higher-dimensional body down with them.[1]

Wouldn't this also be Limited Dimensional Manipulation? Since Saitama is not only taking Void back to the universe, but also making his 4D body back to a 3D one.

If Void got pulled down normally, his body would be giant like how his swords were, wouldn't it?

Or, more directly, Saitama pulled down the giant swords and when they got back they were normal, 3D sized swords instead of giant ones

 

[Kin201]

Reacted to it's "Descend".

They didn't, except for Blast, but he's paralyzed and unable to do anything.

They only see the trajectory of the attack just like how Flash see it earlier.

All three of them clearly looked in the right direction the blade descended while it moved toward them or even before it started moving toward them, lol. But you will choose the interpretation that fits your agenda the best.

 

[Wardokman69]

All three of them clearly looked in the right direction the blade descended while it moved toward them or even before it moved toward them, lol. But you will choose the interpretation that fits your agenda the best.

What agenda are you talking about?
They looking at the trajectory of the attack, it's literally shown in it.

If anything, it was you who interpret to fits your downplay agenda lol.

 

[Phoenks]

All three of them clearly looked in the right direction the blade descended while it moved toward them or even before it started moving toward them, lol. But you will choose the interpretation that fits your agenda the best.

Are you forgetting that this is what the descent of Dimensional Slash looks like?

It's very noticeable.

Seems like arguing with you isn't really worth much though. You don't reply to counter arguments. You just claim wank.

 

[Kin201]

Are you forgetting that this is what the descent of Dimensional Slash looks like?

I don't. I posted a panel showing Sonic and Flash looking at the correct direction the blade descended while it moved toward them or before it started moving toward them.

Seems like arguing with you isn't really worth much though. You don't reply to counter arguments. You just claim wank.

Then you should stop responding to me if you find it's wasting your time.

 

[Redcated]

Fun fact this is "faster" than dimension slash since it perception blitz flash

/s

 

[Wardokman69]

Should Void and possibly Saitama get Size Manipulation?

 

[Wardokman69]

I don't. I posted a panel showing Sonic and Flash looking at the correct direction the blade descended while it moved toward them or before it started moving toward them.

Then you should stop responding to me if you find it's wasting your time.

Again, they didn't see it descended, they only reacted once the slash already moving toward them.

 

[Kin201]

they only reacted once the slash already moving toward them.

This is what I and RinneItachi were saying, yes. What could you be mistaking otherwise? Neither of us suggested that the speed at which the blade extends from any location toward Earth is perceived by anyone, including Blast.

 

[RinneItachi]

Non-Physical Interaction (4-D, possibly 5-D — Snatched Empty Void's Dimensional Blades by grasping the spatial abstraction of them emanating down from hyperspace,[1] and then physically pulled Empty Void's higher-dimensional body down with them.[1] Punched his way into[2] Phoenix Man's pocket dimension, which was described as being a spiritual space. Moved around[3] and kicked away[4] Garou's Hyperspace Gates as if they were physical constructs)

Extrasensory Perception and Cosmic Awareness (Could see the Dimensional Slash,[1] which is an invisible, spatial construct.[5][6][4] Sensed the Dimensional Slash coming[1] from a place that is outside the causality of the universe[6])

Resistance to Spatial Manipulation (4-D, possibly 5-D — Effortlessly caught Empty Void's Dimensional Slashes, attacks from a higher-dimension[4] beyond the causality of the universe,[6] that explicitly ignore distance, energy, and size,[7] and that cut through space itself,[1] between the tips of his fingers[1])

I like this.