If blast is as fast as you say, then garou could literally do nothing but look like a statue to blast. What youre implying is that for EVERY INCH of garou's movement, blast is capable of moving his body to whichever whch way he wanted.
Garou didn't hit him one single time though. But he did hit Garou. As a matter of fact, Blast was trying to look for a way to teleport Garou away from Earth so he wouldn't destroy everything. And even while trying to do that, he teleported away every single one of Garou's punches. Am I remembering something wrong here?
You misremembered the part that if blast is just THAT fast, blast wouldn't need to hit him. Blast could literally just grab garou by the balls then teleport out, while garou himself for the entire duration moved inches. Imagine yourself owning a statue that everytime you moved your entire body, it moves by itself by an inch. Tell me, would you have any problem doing anything you want with it? Thats the speed disparity youre proposing.
Could be both invisible and immeasurable XD
So, instead of assuming Blast simply didn't fight in the most optimized way by abusing his speed advantage, you are instead proposing he could actually just stop time if he wanted, in order to teleport? Doesn't that mean he would be even faster than what I proposed? Doesn't that actually make the way he chose to fight seem even worse?
The speed im talking about was blast's ability to statue both garou and saitama when they were about to clash fists, which were inches away from each other. In the duration of that inch, he was able to outpace them. i am now going to quote a response i gave someone about the same speed disparity youre proposing:
Yes, I am talking about that and I know it's canon, but when Darkphantom said that this form was redrawn, it confused me. I think he can use this form as his final trump.
But again, doesn't that mean he could've just did that immediately and teleported to Garou, then teleported both of them away? Like, this makes him even faster than what I'm trying to say he is. I understand you're saying it's only when he's charging for a teleport, but that means he still could just abuse it immediately and he would've known that, so it makes even less sense that he couldn't instantly blitz Garou that way.
That's the thing though. Stitch himself said that Blast could "manipulate space-time", and for him to do it with striking his two hands with Gravity Knuckle (which I calculated earlier to have Pre-Stellar/Stellar force) could cause something akin to a Gravitational Wave (which he was stated to have used against Garou's cosmic radiation, and coincidentally shows the same design as his teleportation-technique) which can induce gravitational time dilation (so the closer the clock is to the source of heavy gravitational force, the slower time becomes.)
In that case all of the panels with it will have to be redrawn for the volume. The details like the face paint and V symbol look too different from the ones we see on him now.
Yep! Just came to pretty much the same conclusion in my last comment. Honestly I'm kinda shocked. But it makes perfect sense, since he managed to react to Serious Punch². Your quoting Sitch's comments only made this whole argument even more solid for me. So, what you are saying is that the closer his fists are to smashing, the more spacetime is distorted? If so, that's really cool. I like how Murata tries to make these absurd scenarios a bit more realistic.
Yes, we can actually say this is his true cosmic form. As you mentioned, the V and face paint are different, and his whole body was glowing like Cosmic Garou. I'm really curious.
I do believe arguing about it was useful, though. I mean, I didn't realise Blast could instantly teleport like that, did everyone else on this thread already know this? It makes so much sense, too.
Yeah it's useful but that will come for another time
What do you mean by another dimension?
Yes. It's actually insane how much it makes sense, because gravitational waves are formed from either two neutron stars or black holes colliding, and given how his two Gravity Knuckles happen to scale to Pre-Stellar/Stellar LS (from Garou sucking away the 900 kilometer Nuclear Fission explosion in a nigh-instant with a singular GK) and for them to "collide" is where I think this might just be the actual answer and not just speculation (I'd like for 100% confirmation in the manga, but I think it's really it.)
Actually scratch that if the initial strike get accepted as mftl-possibly infinite then the slashing won't mean shit in vs battle match up since Void could just stab the target
Great point, the fact that Void chose to try and stab Saitama while stating that "There is nothing that can stop the tip of the Dimension Blade, which cuts through space itself" makes it pretty clear, at least to me, that the initial strike definitely posess the properties of ignoring "size, distance and energy", and the only reason Void did not use it in the first place was in order to "play with his food" while showcasing his strength.
The dimension where Blast wanted to send Garou to and where he witnessed the Extreme Fa Jin
Probably that dimensión also makes part of the multiverse
And we're in the thick of it
that just him probably realizing the same thing to attack the HA will happen , flash is smart after all (usually) rather than him magically sensing an attack from outside the universe lolLike I said before - the only reason Flashy sensed the attack was because he had direct contact with God. Same goes for Blast, he can sense the attack before it is even thrown because he is attuned with God's power. Flashy saw God after Void pressed one of God's cube onto him, therefore he knows what God's power looks like. Proof:
This is not an anti-feat, Flashy being able to sense the attack in this scenario makes complete sense.
Proof that Flashy sensed Void's attack before it was thrown, instead of reacting to it afterwards(and you can notice on the last page that even though he knew the attack would land, he managed to still be grazed by it, which further proves its absurd levels of speed):
Yeah he is so smart that he attacked Saitama even when, well, HE ALREADY SAW HIM IN THE REUNION
dude is a ninja , they all been shown to have a giant ego biggest example is sonic attacking saitama like 40 times even tho he knew he never had a chance and u tell me the dude who was probably forced to be in the meeting for like 15 minutes will remember some nobody class C hero who got a forgetful face and no aura that u can draw in 20 seconds (thats cannon btw) , its surprising he managed to remember he was Genos lackey lol
Void can view localized areas of what he wants to see. With him towering over multiple parallel universes and only being able to fit the image of Sonic and Flash in one circle, then an entire landscape later, this much is clear. So even if it shows galaxies in others, what is visible isn't the limit of his scope.
Since we see Saitama can see Void's swords, + we see Void's swords are making the attacks, this scene where there are seven simultaneous slashes makes no sense. The application of the swords contradicts any possible explanation unless he can swing out shockwave slices.
But we see Void can casually interact with space. His pulling space over himself like a blanket not only moved the amount of space visible to the eye but any/all space deeper than the surface of what we could see. Blast also observed he can only go to the higher dimension when he weaves his hand signs, which wasn't done in this case. That sounds like Higher-Dimensional Existence. That also suggests he can access higher-D abilities without needing to be in the actual higher-D space.
As far as the speed, idk. I strongly believe that the view Void has in his ball is the actual position in space from which his attack will come, effectively skipping any distance in space and acting like a portal attack. You can see here that his localized view of space is above the clouds, and Saitama, seeing his attacks come like twinkles in the sky, implies an incoming object, not an object that literally appears throughout all of space. We can see here when God approaches Garou that his movements are just weird clouds to everyone else. But those clouds are literally his feet portalling out of nowhere. This also means that if his ability is like Void's, God was walking on this Earth's bubble.
There's also the fact that Saitama pulling Void back into the universe returned him and his swords to normal size as they passed that spatial boundary, instead of immediately power-slamming the whole universe. He might just have really fancy spatial manipulation, idk.
I still don't think dimension slash is immeasurable just based on this. Unless people want to suggest God is casually strolling at immeasurable speeds and generates Tier 7 KE at best (they'd be wrong)We can see here when God approaches Garou that his movements are just weird clouds to everyone else. But those clouds are literally his feet portalling out of nowhere. This also means that if his ability is like Void's, God was walking on this Earth's bubble.
Your example is not the same thing
No one is arguing for immeasurable speed
Ryukama is the only guy here who could get this passed, ngl.
that one is mistranslated. it says distance is irrelevant rather than timing (doesn't change much
) and that they are absolutely unavoidable.
No, he had the exact same reaction that Blast had when sensing the attack. And this was after Flashy had direct contact with God after having the cube thrust onto his chest. Go back and read the chapter in which Void attacks the HA, Blast reacts in the exact same way. There is no logical reason that being smart would make it possible for you to sense an attack outside of your dimension... specially considering Flashy didn't even really see the attack that hit the HA, Blast was the only one who sensed and reacted to it, Flashy only got to see the aftermath.
Yep, and we are lucky if they don't close it
