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love and both are the same thing, the only difference is the expression.
some people just hate someone so much that they want him the worst, no matter what, some people just love someone so much that they want him the best, no matter what.
some people love humanity regardless of its problems, some people hate humanity regardless of its problems.
some people love other people because of their differences, some people just hate people because of their differences.
some love to hate something, and some hate to love.
you could almost said that, that AM speech can be changed with Love and it will be the same effect, it is the same thing.
 
CF Garou is the next Boros and Acnologia of OPM. Although Blast implied that EV is a greater threat, this is contradicted by the fact that Blast hasn't actually seen IO Garou and needed support from all the Avengers to fully redirect SS². Regardless of where Blast and his team tier ends up in the upcoming chapter, I would argue that Post SS Garou should scale above., especially because Garou is not just like Psychorochi, Homeless Emperor, or anyone who made contact with the cube. He is the Avatar of GOD himself, a being that’s probably the closest to GOD, and one that only Saitama could likely handle. The entire point of the next chapter is to probably show how strong Blast actually is when not compared to Garou and Saitama.
 
CF Garou is the next Boros and Acnologia of OPM. Although Blast implied that EV is a greater threat, this is contradicted by the fact that Blast hasn't actually seen IO Garou and needed support from all the Avengers to fully redirect SS². Regardless of where Blast and his team tier ends up in the upcoming chapter, I would argue that Post SS Garou should scale above., especially because Garou is not just like Psychorochi, Homeless Emperor, or anyone who made contact with the cube. He is the Avatar of GOD himself, a being that’s probably the closest to GOD, and one that only Saitama could likely handle. The entire point of the next chapter is to probably show how strong Blast actually is when not compared to Garou and Saitama.
That may not be the case, considering Blast fully tanked the attack but says it's the gate that can't handle it. He wasn't worried about himself even for a second and even when Garou destroyed his gates himself, he didn't seem to care about how strong he was except the fact that it dangered the lifes of the others. The gate hax might work different than their other hax or physical strength. We don't know how their space-time based abilities work after all.

Also logically Empty void should have more divine power than Garou which is the source of the avatar's power. Garou copying saitama or etc shouldn't change it. Though at the end of the battle, narrator stated Saitama to be on a level where probably no one could comprehend it.
 
That may not be the case, considering Blast fully tanked the attack but says it's the gate that can't handle it. He wasn't worried about himself even for a second and even when Garou destroyed his gates himself, he didn't seem to care about how strong he was except the fact that it dangered the lifes of the others. The gate hax might work different than their other hax or physical strength. We don't know how their space-time based abilities work after all. Also logically Empty void should have more divine power than Garou which is the source of the avatar's power. Garou copying saitama or etc shouldn't change it. Though at the end of the battle, narrator stated Saitama to be on a level where probably no one could comprehend it.
Blast acting indifferent when Garou acts the same doesn’t change that, and the scene where his team appears and empowers his gate disproves the argument that it’s pure hax. Also, I don’t remember Blast tanking Garou direct punch, he always uses his portal to counter or block his attacks.

What you said was the total opposite. Garou was treating Blast like he’s some fodder by casually copying his abilities and treating him as insignificant compared to Saitama. And the version that Void absorbed wasn’t as strong as IO Garou. Besides, Void was interrupted at that time by Blast before he could fully absorbs his divine power.

"Logically" speaking, the scene where his team appears heavily implies that it’s a power that Blast cannot handle alone and requires all their power to fully redirect it.
 
Blast acting indifferent when Garou acts the same doesn’t change that, and the scene where his team appears and empowers his gate disproves the argument that it’s pure hax. Also, I don’t remember Blast tanking Garou direct punch, he always uses his portal to counter or block his attacks.
Why would it mean it's not pure hax? All of blast's team seemingly has space-time based abilities considering what Sitch said, and considering how they appeared there as well.

Blast tanked serious punch^2, he teleported the attack with himself and comes out of it. That's what accepted i suppose?

What you said was the total opposite. Garou was treating Blast like he’s some fodder by casually copying his abilities and treating him as insignificant compared to Saitama. And the version that Void absorbed wasn’t as strong as IO Garou.
Garou considers Blast to be irrelevant based on his fight with him. Which Blast didn't even prioritize Garou because of wanting to save others and seemingly didn't go all out(not saying physically). Blast seemingly didn't get a scratch against Garou even when Saitama arrived, He was able to see serious punch^2 in slow motion and he was seemingly way faster than them.

Void absorbing Garou from IO or not doesn't matter, what he absorbs is "Divine Power". No matter what, he would get the same amount of "Divine Power"

"Logically" speaking, the scene where his team appears heavily implies that it’s a power that Blast cannot handle alone and requires all their power to fully redirect it.
I'm saying it could be based on how the gate works rather than Blast's strength and ability. Which Blast always states like "the gate can't handle it" "It was too much for the gate" etc etc.
 
Why would it mean it's not pure hax? All of blast's team seemingly has space-time based abilities considering what Sitch said, and considering how they appeared there as well.
Then explain the power up from team scene
Blast tanked serious punch^2, he teleported the attack with himself and comes out of it. That's what accepted i suppose?
We didn’t actually see this to fully argue it. For all we know, he could have sealed them at the gate without including him in it and teleported them to outer space.
Garou considers Blast to be irrelevant based on his fight with him. Which Blast didn't even prioritize Garou because of wanting to save others and seemingly didn't go all out(not saying physically). Blast seemingly didn't get a scratch against Garou even when Saitama arrived, He was able to see serious punch^2 in slow motion and he was seemingly way faster than them.
I would argue that it's just plot convenience, where the plot is twisted for the events to progress. (Or how do I put it?) For example, Saitama failing to catch a mosquito leads to him meeting Genos, or how Black Sperm is able to see that Saitama one-shotted Cosmic Garou, which leads to "I'll become his pet." Otherwise, if Blast is as fast as the slow motion scene suggests, he could have sealed Garou away to another dimension without him noticing. And before you say anything, there is no reasonable reason to hold his speed back. In short: I do believe it's just one of those slow motion moment in a dire situation that doesn't actually correlate with their speed.
Void absorbing Garou from IO or not doesn't matter, what he absorbs is "Divine Power". No matter what, he would get the same amount of "Divine Power"
Blast interrupted Void before he could fully absorbs him
 
Then explain the power up from team scene
they used their space-time abilities to affect the gate?

We didn’t actually see this to fully argue it. For all we know, he could have sealed them at the gate without including him in it and teleported them to outer space.
Blast teleported with the same portal though.

I would argue that it's just plot convenience, where the plot is twisted for the events to progress. (Or how do I put it?) For example, Saitama failing to catch a mosquito leads to him meeting Genos, or how Black Sperm is able to see that Saitama one-shotted Cosmic Garou, which leads to "I'll become his pet." Otherwise, if Blast is as fast as the slow motion scene suggests, he could have sealed Garou away to another dimension without him noticing. And before you say anything, there is no reasonable reason to hold his speed back. In short: I do believe it's just one of those slow motion moment in a dire situation that doesn't actually correlate with their speed.
Saitama moments can't be included considering they are gag moments but understand what you mean here, but i don't think so.

maybe Blast only used enough power to send Garou away at first, but then garou came back. Blast saw that Garou is capable of copying abilities, a reason to hold his speed back probably. Also Blast was capable of stopping all of Garou's attacks the whole fight. not getting even one hit or scratch. it's even more amazing considering the growth rate of Garou.

Blast interrupted Void before he could fully absorbs him
No? Empty Void seemingly took all of it. Blast didn't stop him before he could do it, Empty Void literally transformed with the power he took and yet had more than enough time to easily react to Blast's attacks
 
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love and both are the same thing, the only difference is the expression.
some people just hate someone so much that they want him the worst, no matter what, some people just love someone so much that they want him the best, no matter what.
some people love humanity regardless of its problems, some people hate humanity regardless of its problems.
some people love other people because of their differences, some people just hate people because of their differences.
some love to hate something, and some hate to love.
you could almost said that, that AM speech can be changed with Love and it will be the same effect, it is the same thing.
shut up
 
there is a story, about humans and demons fighting in a war, they hated each other, but in them, they had love for the one's close to them, They fought with hate to defend those they love.
many years later, a Boy was in the lands of the demons, his motivation?

REVENGE, for his mother, the person he most loved, had been murdered by those HATEFUL CREATURES, he wanted to kill them in the worsts way possible.
but in a bad turn on events, the prince of the castle, the leader of the demons, didn't wanted to have war, he didn't hate humans, he just wanted to have peace between them, but years of hate made him not hear, they say ''love is blind''and also is hate, hate is blind.
he didn't wanted to hear him, he will not hear him, HE WANTED HIM DEAD.
but after a long fight and having stabbed the prince countless times...the prince was dead...but...he felt empty, his object of hate...was gone...he didn't hate anymore, he felt truly empty...the same way one feels after the thing they love is gone...nothingness.
the infinite void of nothing was bigger than any other emotion, what is nothing really?so much time of his life, so much done, so many fights, so many things learned, so many new friends and enemies...and all of this where just for his object of hate do die...now...he does not feel great...he is not sad, nor happy, nor angry, nor confused...he justs...feels nothing.

Maybe this wasn't the way...maybe she should have gone to the witch of the forest, she loved him, her feelings for him were genuine, she wanted a relationship with him...she...wanted to be loved... and he simply ignored her because of his hatred, he ignored the love of someone who genuinely loved him in a way that no other love could, and he simply ignored her.
so much hate...for nothing...in the end...it won't matter...
A scientist knocked him out with a powerful tranquilizer, now he was unconscious, the scientist loved and hated too, he loved experiments and science, and he hated that things did not advance, he hated the times where nothing changed, he wanted changes, he would make changes He could notice around him, a lot of cages with a lot of deformed monsters with more than 2 heads, with big mouths, with 6 tentacles, purple and they seemed to be... in pain? sadness? desperation? madness? it was something irrelevant. .
Now he would be transformed and he would be like them, he would be one of those creatures, a creature that would never be like before, a creature that would never love or hate again, he would simply suffer eternally.






















at the end...even after being turned into this monstruosity of 9 tentacles, purple skin and big mouth with hundreds of teeth...the witch still loved him...love...maybe he should love more?
 
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there is a story, about humans and demons fighting in a war, they hated each other, but in them, they had love for the one's close to them, They fought with hate to defend those they love.
many years later, a Boy was in the lands of the demons, his motivation?

REVENGE, for his mother, the person he most loved, had been murdered by those HATEFUL CREATURES, he wanted to kill them in the worsts way possible.
but in a bad turn on events, the prince of the castle, the leader of the demons, didn't wanted to have war, he didn't hate humans, he just wanted to have peace between them, but years of hate made him not hear, they say ''love is blind''and also is hate, hate is blind.
he didn't wanted to hear him, he will not hear him, HE WANTED HIM DEAD.
but after a long fight and having stabbed the prince countless times...the prince was dead...but...he felt empty, his object of hate...was gone...he didn't hate anymore, he felt truly empty...the same way one feels after the thing they love is gone...nothingness.
the infinite void of nothing was bigger than any other emotion, what is nothing really?so much time of his life, so much done, so many fights, so many things learned, so many new friends and enemies...and all of this where just for his object of hate do die...now...he does not feel great...he is not sad, nor happy, nor angry, nor confused...he justs...feels nothing.

Maybe this wasn't the way...maybe she should have gone to the witch of the forest, she loved him, her feelings for him were genuine, she wanted a relationship with him...she...wanted to be loved... and he simply ignored her because of his hatred, he ignored the love of someone who genuinely loved him in a way that no other love could, and he simply ignored her.
so much hate...for nothing...in the end...it won't matter...
A scientist knocked him out with a powerful tranquilizer, now he was unconscious, the scientist loved and hated too, he loved experiments and science, and he hated that things did not advance, he hated the times where nothing changed, he wanted changes, he would make changes He could notice around him, a lot of cages with a lot of deformed monsters with more than 2 heads, with big mouths, with 6 tentacles, purple and they seemed to be... in pain? sadness? desperation? madness? it was something irrelevant. .
Now he would be transformed and he would be like them, he would be one of those creatures, a creature that would never be like before, a creature that would never love or hate again, he would simply suffer eternally.






















at the end...even after being turned into this monstruosity of 9 tentacles, purple skin and big mouth with hundreds of teeth...the witch still loved him...love...maybe he should love more?
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there is a story, about humans and demons fighting in a war, they hated each other, but in them, they had love for the one's close to them, They fought with hate to defend those they love.
many years later, a Boy was in the lands of the demons, his motivation?

REVENGE, for his mother, the person he most loved, had been murdered by those HATEFUL CREATURES, he wanted to kill them in the worsts way possible.
but in a bad turn on events, the prince of the castle, the leader of the demons, didn't wanted to have war, he didn't hate humans, he just wanted to have peace between them, but years of hate made him not hear, they say ''love is blind''and also is hate, hate is blind.
he didn't wanted to hear him, he will not hear him, HE WANTED HIM DEAD.
but after a long fight and having stabbed the prince countless times...the prince was dead...but...he felt empty, his object of hate...was gone...he didn't hate anymore, he felt truly empty...the same way one feels after the thing they love is gone...nothingness.
the infinite void of nothing was bigger than any other emotion, what is nothing really?so much time of his life, so much done, so many fights, so many things learned, so many new friends and enemies...and all of this where just for his object of hate do die...now...he does not feel great...he is not sad, nor happy, nor angry, nor confused...he justs...feels nothing.

Maybe this wasn't the way...maybe she should have gone to the witch of the forest, she loved him, her feelings for him were genuine, she wanted a relationship with him...she...wanted to be loved... and he simply ignored her because of his hatred, he ignored the love of someone who genuinely loved him in a way that no other love could, and he simply ignored her.
so much hate...for nothing...in the end...it won't matter...
A scientist knocked him out with a powerful tranquilizer, now he was unconscious, the scientist loved and hated too, he loved experiments and science, and he hated that things did not advance, he hated the times where nothing changed, he wanted changes, he would make changes He could notice around him, a lot of cages with a lot of deformed monsters with more than 2 heads, with big mouths, with 6 tentacles, purple and they seemed to be... in pain? sadness? desperation? madness? it was something irrelevant. .
Now he would be transformed and he would be like them, he would be one of those creatures, a creature that would never be like before, a creature that would never love or hate again, he would simply suffer eternally.






















at the end...even after being turned into this monstruosity of 9 tentacles, purple skin and big mouth with hundreds of teeth...the witch still loved him...love...maybe he should love more?
Adventure Time
 
there is a story, about humans and demons fighting in a war, they hated each other, but in them, they had love for the one's close to them, They fought with hate to defend those they love.
many years later, a Boy was in the lands of the demons, his motivation?

REVENGE, for his mother, the person he most loved, had been murdered by those HATEFUL CREATURES, he wanted to kill them in the worsts way possible.
but in a bad turn on events, the prince of the castle, the leader of the demons, didn't wanted to have war, he didn't hate humans, he just wanted to have peace between them, but years of hate made him not hear, they say ''love is blind''and also is hate, hate is blind.
he didn't wanted to hear him, he will not hear him, HE WANTED HIM DEAD.
but after a long fight and having stabbed the prince countless times...the prince was dead...but...he felt empty, his object of hate...was gone...he didn't hate anymore, he felt truly empty...the same way one feels after the thing they love is gone...nothingness.
the infinite void of nothing was bigger than any other emotion, what is nothing really?so much time of his life, so much done, so many fights, so many things learned, so many new friends and enemies...and all of this where just for his object of hate do die...now...he does not feel great...he is not sad, nor happy, nor angry, nor confused...he justs...feels nothing.

Maybe this wasn't the way...maybe she should have gone to the witch of the forest, she loved him, her feelings for him were genuine, she wanted a relationship with him...she...wanted to be loved... and he simply ignored her because of his hatred, he ignored the love of someone who genuinely loved him in a way that no other love could, and he simply ignored her.
so much hate...for nothing...in the end...it won't matter...
A scientist knocked him out with a powerful tranquilizer, now he was unconscious, the scientist loved and hated too, he loved experiments and science, and he hated that things did not advance, he hated the times where nothing changed, he wanted changes, he would make changes He could notice around him, a lot of cages with a lot of deformed monsters with more than 2 heads, with big mouths, with 6 tentacles, purple and they seemed to be... in pain? sadness? desperation? madness? it was something irrelevant. .
Now he would be transformed and he would be like them, he would be one of those creatures, a creature that would never be like before, a creature that would never love or hate again, he would simply suffer eternally.






















at the end...even after being turned into this monstruosity of 9 tentacles, purple skin and big mouth with hundreds of teeth...the witch still loved him...love...maybe he should love more?
omg
 
Garou's radiation might have gotten way higher after his fight with saitama.

I may have misunderstood, but for time travel, particles and their corresponding particles mimicked each other. and all of the particles inside their bodies does it. Garou's radiation is what created these pairs in his own body. if Garou created particle pairs as much as how many particles is inside a human body via radiation, based on Saitama's weight it would be:

Gy = Energy / Mass, considering it's the same amount as the particles inside a body, E=mc^2 : 70 x ((3x10^8)^2) = 6.3 x 10^18 Joule

6.3e18 / 70 = 9 x 10^16 Gy.
 
they used their space-time abilities to affect the gate?
Still doesn't disregard the fact that they powered it up.
Blast teleported with the same portal though.
And he could have excluded himself from it immediately upon landing in outer space
Saitama moments can't be included considering they are gag moments but understand what you mean here, but i don't think so.
Yeah but you can't convince that him suddenly being able to see them in slow motion, when he was previously struggling to keep up with Garou barrage of punches and having difficulty sending him away to another dimension, isn't one of those "slow motion in a dire situation'"tropes
Maybe Blast only used enough power to send Garou away at first, but then garou came back. Blast saw that Garou is capable of copying abilities, a reason to hold his speed back probably.
This dont make sense
Also Blast was capable of stopping all of Garou's attacks the whole fight.
Via portal yes
not getting even one hit or scratch. it's even more amazing considering the growth rate of Garou.
Which shows how proficient he is at using his spacetime ability, and not that he was stronger or faster
No? Empty Void seemingly took all of it. Blast didn't stop him before he could do it, Empty Void literally transformed with the power he took and yet had more than enough time to easily react to Blast's attacks
Keyword: "Seemingly."
 
Still doesn't disregard the fact that they powered it up.
and? It doesn't mean it's not pure hax or etc since we don't even know how it works. everytime Blast talks about the Gate, his way of speaking is always "the gate can't handle this much energy" "the gate exploded" etc etc

And he could have excluded himself from it immediately upon landing in outer space
in manga, Blast leaves after teleportation and the explosion inside it happened

Yeah but you can't convince that him suddenly being able to see them in slow motion, when he was previously struggling to keep up with Garou barrage of punches and having difficulty sending him away to another dimension, isn't one of those "slow motion in a dire situation'"tropes
"didn't go all out", He didn't struggle with stopping any of his attack or something either. Sending him to another dimension again when Garou' just capable of easily leaving that other dimension? That's why Blast changed his objective to "Send everyone somewhere safe" from "Send Garou to another dimension"
Which shows how proficient he is at using his spacetime ability, and not that he was stronger or faster
Except those portals didn't appear out of nothing, Blast used his hands + Blast didn't take a hit even while off screen. Thats including Garou's fast growth rate, Garou literally overpowers and surpasses Platinum Sperm within 0.0013 second.

Keyword: "Seemingly."
What we see is that he takes it all and isn't interrupted + he even transformed before blast's attack could actually hit and then he takes action
 
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and? It doesn't mean it's not pure hax or etc since we don't even know how it works. everytime Blast talks about the Gate, his way of speaking is always "the gate can't handle this much energy" "the gate exploded" etc etc
Fact remains that Blast alone can't contain and fully redirect it without a power up from his team
in manga, Blast leaves after teleportation and the explosion inside it happened
Sure, he could have left before the shockwave manifested, or he simply isn't included
"didn't go all out", He didn't struggle with stopping any of his attack or something either. Sending him to another dimension again when Garou' just capable of easily leaving that other dimension? That's why Blast changed his objective to "Send everyone somewhere safe" from "Send Garou to another dimension"
You see, if Blast were anywhere near as fast or as strong as you suggest, he could have prevented all of that by simply taking out Garou with one hit or send him off-planet without him noticing
Except those portals didn't appear out of nothing, Blast used his hands + Blast didn't take a hit even while off screen. Thats including Garou's fast growth rate, Garou literally overpowers and surpasses Platinum Sperm within 0.0013 second.
He didn't took a hit and the fact remains that It's the portal that did the most job
What we see is that he takes it all and isn't interrupted + he even transformed before blast's attack could actually hit and then he takes action
What we see is clearly a scene of Blast interrupting Void from absorbing the energy lol

Honestly, I don't even know why I'm arguing this when we know for a fact that Blast literally has no idea how strong CF Garou is because Saitama one off his ass and how the scene where he fails to contain and had issues handling their power clearly indicates that it's beyond what he and they can handle alone. But hey to make OPM discussion seems lively, I guess it's fine.
 
Fact remains that Blast alone can't contain and fully redirect it without a power up from his team
at least with the gate, yeah.
Sure, he could have left before the shockwave manifested, or he simply isn't included
The explosion inside the portal happens first.
You see, if Blast were anywhere near as fast or as strong as you suggest, he could have prevented all of that by simply taking out Garou with one hit or send him off-planet without him noticing
this suggestion applies to literally every fiction. also Blast at first didn't show any wish to kill Garou, he saw he didn't fully take God's hand, offered Garou to send him to another dimension, Garou refused yet Blast did it. They're are on E
What we see is clearly a scene of Blast interrupting Void from absorbing the energy lol
Blast went and attacked. But Empty void absorbed, transformed and yet still easily reacted to Blast's attack, he didn't even turn his face when blast attacked.

Honestly, I don't even know why I'm arguing this when we know for a fact that Blast literally has no idea how strong CF Garou is because Saitama one off his ass and how the scene where he fails to contain and had issues handling their power clearly indicates that it's beyond what he and they can handle alone.
Except he literally has many idea about it. watched saitama vs garou, saw the gamma ray burst and all. He also realizes the amount of Divine Power he has and how strong he is there.

But yeah there is no reason to argue, if anything we'd see it next chapter (hoping the next chapter is about Blast vs Void)
 
One and Murata gave us the graph of Saitama and Garou's growth and the difference between them. Based on that, the difference between them at the last is the difference that is required to one shot no?

could it be used like that or would it require way more?
 
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