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One and Murata gave us the graph of Saitama and Garou's growth and the difference between them. Based on that, the difference between them at the last is the difference that is required to one shot no?

could it be used like that or would it require way more?
considering that Saitama was incomparably stronger, a one shot gap is probably less than shown
 
at least with the gate, yeah.
Which the manga made it clear that it's power dependent

The explosion inside the portal happens first.
The air pressure, rather than the energy, could have knocked him off, not to mention the massive difference between directly tanking the punch that creates those energies

That's no different from saying you're as strong as the MC and the big boss villain just because you tanked the air pressure caused by their punches colliding
this suggestion applies to literally every fiction. Also Blast at first didn't show any wish to kill Garou, he saw he didn't fully take God's hand, offered Garou to send him to another dimension, Garou refused yet Blast did it. They're are on E
Is that something he still needs to consider when everyone is literally on the brink of death? Yeah, nah. Besides, he doesn’t have to Garou him. If he’s as strong as you suggest, knocking him off should be enough, or release the same amount of strength that Time Travel Saitama used

Blast went and attacked. But Empty void absorbed, transformed and yet still easily reacted to Blast's attack, he didn't even turn his face when blast attacked.
Do you really have to talk like those power scalers brainrot just to prove your point
Except he literally has many idea about it. watched saitama vs garou, saw the gamma ray burst and all. He also realizes the amount of Divine Power he has and how strong he is there.
And?

All it suggests is that he knew Garou possessed a tremendous amount of divine power, not that he knew exactly how much. Boros sensed the immeasurable strength that Saitama possesses, yet still decided to fight him like a fool
 
Which the manga made it clear that it's power dependent
Or that the gate has it's own limits for a user.
The air pressure, rather than the energy, could have knocked him off, not to mention the massive difference between directly tanking the punch that creates those energies

That's no different from saying you're as strong as the MC and the big boss villain just because you tanked the air pressure caused by their punches colliding
That would be no different from saying it if i was saying Blast scales because of something like air pressure rather than the energy explosion itself, Also we see the explosion happening while Blast didn't come out.
Is that something he still needs to consider when everyone is literally on the brink of death? Yeah, nah. Besides, he doesn’t have to Garou him. If he’s as strong as you suggest, knocking him off should be enough, or release the same amount of strength that Time Travel Saitama used
I would argue that it's just plot convenience, where the plot is twisted for the events to progress.

Which still literally applies to all fiction. also considering things like Garou's growth rate allows him to surpass and oneshot someone within 0.0013 seconds, Blast was actually supposed to lose after a second? or how he could send Garou to another dimension after the first attack yet chooses to hit many times for nothing? Or sending him to another dimension via surprise attack rather than talking first?
Do you really have to talk like those power scalers brainrot just to prove your point
I dont understand :d
And?

All it suggests is that he knew Garou possessed a tremendous amount of divine power, not that he knew exactly how much. Boros sensed the immeasurable strength that Saitama possesses, yet still decided to fight him like a fool
Blast's team also talks about how strong Garou based on the amount of divine power he has which is literally Garou's source of power. Empty void still has more. which is consistent with Blast saying Empty void right now is a greater threat than Garou

Boros calls his power immeasurable/all too powerful as well... (I wish he actually went serious)
 
Or that the gate has it's own limits for a user.
No amount of saying gonna change the fact that it's a feat he obviously cannot handle alone
That would be no different from saying it if i was saying Blast scales because of something like air pressure rather than the energy explosion itself, Also we see the explosion happening while Blast didn't come out.
The feat is literally too undetailed to say much about it. I could say that it's the air pressure that pushed him off, similar to how the fan animation portrayed it, or as you suggested. But regardless of what, he still doesn’t scale to it.
I would argue that it's just plot convenience, where the plot is twisted for the events to progress Which still literally applies to all fiction. also considering things like Garou's growth rate allows him to surpass and oneshot someone within 0.0013 seconds, Blast was actually supposed to lose after a second? or how he could send Garou to another dimension after the first attack yet chooses to hit many times for nothing? Or sending him to another dimension via surprise attack rather than talking first?
Unless you genuinely believe he perceives time much slower than Platinum Sperm. And it's not exactly 00013. You also need to consider the time when FF was still with them.
I dont understand :d
I'm saying you’re presenting it as if it were grandiose, like how many power scalers brainrot describe their feats that are obviously not as impressive as they make them out to be
Blast's team also talks about how strong Garou based on the amount of divine power he has which is literally Garou's source of power.
This doesn’t necessarily imply that they fully understand how much energy he possesses. The fact that he claimed SS² would destroy the planet suggests he isn’t exactly a reliable energy reader. And dude literally got scared after seeing the planet bulging.
Empty void still has more. which is consistent with Blast saying Empty void right now is a greater threat than Garou
Unless you genuinely believe his divine energy is much less than Garou's from IO. Also, I don't think you fully grasp the fact that this was before Garou copied Saitama's Serious Punch.

And being a greater threat doesn’t necessarily mean he has to be stronger. It could be due to his ability to go in higher dimensions and travel across any dimension, making him difficult to kill and his ability to attack attack from anywhere. He can also use Genjutsu. But in any case even if it refers to his strength/AP, it doesn’t change the fact that he only scales to the Garou that Blast knew.
 
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No amount of saying gonna change the fact that it's a feat he obviously cannot handle alone
Yeah, with the gates at least.
Unless you genuinely believe he perceives time much slower than Platinum Sperm. And it's not exactly 00013. You also need to consider the time when FF was still with them.
They were equal or comparable before the 0.0013 second moment. no reason to include FF's moments.
I'm saying you’re presenting it as if it were grandiose, like how many power scalers brainrot describe their feats that are obviously not as impressive as they make them out to be
My purpose wasn't making it sound interesting, but to show that Empty void wasn't interrupted like that.
This doesn’t necessarily imply that they fully understand how much energy he possesses. The fact that he claimed SS² would destroy the planet suggests he isn’t exactly a reliable energy reader. And dude literally got scared after seeing the planet bulging.
huh... why? SS^2 was going to destroy the planet. Blast seemingly doesn't care about other planets/ cares about Earth so much. which it's the same even for God. you're talking about before redraws came out when you say "got scared after seeing the planet bulging.". in the redraws, his concern was that God was gonna break through, and wasn't scared or anything.
Unless you genuinely believe his divine energy is much less than Garou's from IO. Also, I don't think you fully grasp the fact that this was before Garou copied Saitama's Serious Punch.

And being a greater threat doesn’t necessarily mean he has to be stronger.
No? Empty void has more divine energy than Garou(as for now, both version). Copying saitama or anything shouldn't affect the amount of divine energy. Also yeah, being a greater threat doesn't necessarily mean stronger, but i just said it's consistent with it.

(I'm not saying everything i say here is correct, even at the very beginning, i started with "it may be different" etc.)
 
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I got the impression she was meant to come off as a bit too "perfect" in terms of appearance. Less of the uncanny valley in the weird way and more in the too much way.
Hm... it has been a while since I read the webcomic, so maybe you're right.

Granted, as far as I know, idols are supposed to be "perfect" in everyway (at least in public).
 
To be fair, I doubt Webigaza is supposed to look uncanny or weird in-universe (that might destroy her whole idol gig otherwise).
She just looks weird because ONE literally can't draw her cutesy as she is supposed to be.

Like, look at this. She is supposed to be winking at the camera in a charming way but due to ONE's artstyle she looks weird, almost ugly. Murata's version is how ONE intended her to look like.
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She just looks weird because ONE literally can't draw her cutesy as she is supposed to be.

Like, look at this. She is supposed to be winking at the camera in a charming way but due to ONE's artstyle she looks weird, almost ugly. Murata's version is how ONE intended her to look like.
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Honestly, I prefer ONE's version
 
She just looks weird because ONE literally can't draw her cutesy as she is supposed to be.

Like, look at this. She is supposed to be winking at the camera in a charming way but due to ONE's artstyle she looks weird, almost ugly. Murata's version is how ONE intended her to look like.
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My god, one sometimes draws things so horrible that no one would think is not made by a human
 
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She just looks weird because ONE literally can't draw her cutesy as she is supposed to be.

Like, look at this. She is supposed to be winking at the camera in a charming way but due to ONE's artstyle she looks weird, almost ugly. Murata's version is how ONE intended her to look like.
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See, that's what I thought.
 
I like her weirdness in the webcomic, her design in the manga is pretty generic imo, it may be true that the manga version is how ONE wanted her to be, but I really prefer her WC design, her weirdness is CUTE

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I'm fine with a bit of originality and variety in an odd/unique design, but I'm talking about the art style, proportions, etc.. ONE might not be completely terrible but it isn't a hot take to say his art ain't exactly "up to par" with most manga's standards. But I mean he's gotten a lot better since the start. Murata on the other hand is literally one of the best living manga artists on the planet rn and he can make any character look sexy. So it's no surprise the manga version is likely a bit favored. Of course Webigaza is supposed to look attractive, her whole character is that she's a play on the modern "Social media cute girl" gimmick except she's a "Hero" as well. I think it's an overly done trope ngl but she does it well enough. Considering that ONE struggles to make any character look particularly attractive due to his artistic skills, it probably didn't translate too well with her. Though that particular panel is solid.

It doesn't help that ONE's proportion issue makes a lot of his characters look comically shorter than they're supposed to be most of the time.
 
honestly i think one's art fits

it's a funny story about a guy who one shots people, what would suit it more than a funny art style
More so in the beginning. Overtime OPM's story has become far more nuanced and serious with actually impactful and compelling themes, stories, and character writing. I think the God storyline might have always been around unless ONE decided to structure it around Vaccine Man rather than Vaccine Man around it (which I'd find pretty weird if the former was true because obv Vaccine Man is by no degree an important character), but we didn't really get into the actual story and world of the series until after Boros. It was when the series shifted from "The Wacky Adventures of Saitama" to a much more detailed and broadscope of the world of OPM that the narrative tone shifted, even if Saitama is obv still the MC with his own character arc slowly progressing in the background. The manga's variation is perfect in my eyes. Murata still draws comedically when the circumstance suits it, mainly with Saitama of course. But then it can flip from a still very well drawn comedic style to an extremely serious and sometimes even graphic style on the flip of a coin if the story requires it. ONE's art is fine, but Murata's is just objectively better in every capacity I think.
 
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