Indeed. That doesn't at all go against the entire point, narrative, and resolution of the fight, including the very words of Boros who himself admitted that he was a joke compared to Saitama. That's a logical claim if I've ever seen one!
Ziller: "Saitama was much weaker in this fight, Carnage Kabuto forced a massive increase in growth that allowed Saitama to one-shot him. It doesn't hold relevance to Boros because the Saitama that fought Boros was vastly more powerful."
This is interdimensional because the telepathy was happening in a separate dimension.
No shocker there. I mean obviously Carnage Mode is a major amp. Dr. Genus' opinion isn't even relevant because CK himself thought he could win even after knowing he could get one-shotted by Saitama normally.
It wasn't. Read the fight again. The Phoenix Space is a mental/spiritual realm that doesn't physically exist. It's literally just a stronger form of telepathy. Saitama "breaking" into it is metaphorical as well. Hell, Saitama is literally in the exact spot he was in prior to infiltrating the space, showing he didn't actually go anywhere, it was all mental. It's even listed as such on the wiki.
Oh, this can also be used to suggest that Darkshine can completely no-diff and perhaps even one-shot base CK, as he was fairly stronger than Carnage Mode Carnage Kabuto, being able to defeat him after a 15 minute all-out battle. It's worth noting as well that Darkshine likely wasn't pushed to his limit in this fight seeing as he was willing to fight an even stronger opponent if Genos had one, which wouldn't make sense when considering the fact that Darkshine's ego can be easily shattered when met with an actual threat.
Facts. Meanwhile base CK literally neg-diffed the same version of Genos that destroyed mountain-tops, who was already Demon level. Darkshine is just that built different.
Ok but what point are you trying to get at with all of this? Like what is the end goal? Are you ACTUALLY trying to argue that Boros scales to Boris and Blast tier's?
And the whole point of Boros vs Saitama is that Boros despite his strength is a complete fodder compared to Saitama and it wasn't even remotely close
It’s not supposed to be a grand point, it’s just something that’s supposed to be kind of impressive sounding that you add in the later half of long justifications to support it. It doesn’t have to be a big deal
Okay but everyone knows all of these things. Yes Saitama was impressed by Boros and acknowledged him as strong. We've had a thousand debates over it in this thread. I don't understand the point in arguing about it further.
The point in arguing about it further is to prove that you are wrong and I am right. It is a pastime.Okay but everyone knows all of these things. Yes Saitama was impressed by Boros and acknowledged him as strong. We've had a thousand debates over it in this thread. I don't understand the point in arguing about it further.
No, it is literally a spiritual pocket dimension, wym?
It doesn't exist anywhere, it's literally all imaginative and not-real. In the same way as the Tsukuyomi from Naruto. Remember when Itachi created a different realm inside of the Tsukuyomi to torture Itachi? That's not very different from this. They even demonstrate how they can't touch each other inside of the Phoenix Space because they literally aren't actually there.
Again this has been argued about so many times in this thread. Long before you were active here. I was one of the heavy Boros supporters until the topic grew old and frankly tedious.
Then you already know I’m right about what I’m saying.
Anyways it's a convoluted topic tbh because of a lot of vagueness involved. It could be interpreted as interdimensional hearing, but describing it requires very specific wording as well.
This is why some people here tend to not take you seriously or even feel like arguing with you, Ziller. Because you often come off with a rather arrogant attitude. It's considered proper conduct to argue to prove a point, not to prove that the person arguing is right or wrong, those are two different things. In the same way that ad hominem is a logical fallacy because someone is attacking the opponent rather than their argument. When you aren't arguing for the sake of a point, but rather to prove that you are right, people just don't really vibe with it.
I offered up a suggestion for a justification and then defended it when people argued against it.
Yes but you are adamant on continuing to argue about it no matter what. It's fine to argue, this forum is for argumentation, but there is a point where it becomes excessive and tiring, and usually it leads to people just ignoring you because they're sick of it. Which is why I long since stopped arguing about Boros, because it was clear that nothing would come of it. I haven't changed my opinion about the character, but I'm not gonna keep arguing about something that has been argued to hell and back already because it serves no point and is just annoying to talk about, it would come off as petty, aggressive, repetitive, and generally over-argumentative. The same thing applies to any other argument ever. I'm willing to have an argument with someone if I think it's a decent way to spend my time, but I'm not gonna argue even after it's become old, everyone's sick of it, it has lost any sense of productivity or enjoyment, and it's become obvious that it won't go anywhere.
Well during the time you gave up, Boros’ scaling has shifted time and time again, so I wouldn’t say “nothing” has come of it, that’s just you.
Nothing significant or relevant to what I used to argue about but fair.
Nah it's King actually zombie man just assist him. XDDon't forget Zombieman:
Fun true fact (Murata confirmed this)
Wow replying unrelated to Boros. You better come along to his corpse.
Murata once said that Boros can transcend a conceptual infinite thingamabob hierarchy aleph
