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"I lead the pirate band known as dark matter, and am the dominator of the universe. I am Boros"
Dominator of the universe is the hardest title in the verse.
It's a cool title but very generic, and it also sounds super hyperbolic.

Personally, I think Caped Baldy fodderizes.
 
Being on the defensive just implies that casual saitama wasn't able to get in counterattacks very easily against released Boros, it's support for his speed.
Disagree. Saitama could very easily get counterattacks on Boros. He never struggled with that throughout the entire fight.


Read the profile.
As I thought it's the same as his current speed rating. No need to separate it just to copy paste the same thing.

Unless you are trying to scale every single energy beam to that speed, in which case I disagree. Boros using his energy to increase his speed does not mean his energy is that speed.

This is like saying fueling a car with gas means that gas can travel at the speed of the car. It just doesn't make any sense.



Saitama has enhanced senses, but Boros was genuinely capable of sneaking up on him and surprising him.
Bro Saitama was not surprised and neither was he making an effort to avoid or sense an attack coming his way lol. Saitama can see in complete darkness and has interdimensional hearing.

Even if you think that he was "caught off guard", it's still not stealth mastery, it's just a sneak attack.


correction: I had the opportunity to convince wrong people that they are wrong, and then decided that was too much work. The fact that I proved it doesn't mean anything, since majority vote tends to go to lowballing.
It was not a lowball, it was an outright rejection that it was lifting strength.

You realized that your arguments would not convince anyone (because you were wrong) and that's why you stopped.
 
the fact that it's not actually hyperbolic makes it peak
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Disagree. Saitama could very easily get counterattacks on Boros. He never struggled with that throughout the entire fight.
Well he never struggled because he was casual, but using that casual level of effort made it difficult to actually outspeed him
even Boros says that Saitama and him were fighting evenly at that time.
Saitama in general can tag boros easily, but released Boros is comparable to casual saitama's speed.
It's just a good supporting statement.
As I thought it's the same as his current speed rating. No need to separate it just to copy paste the same thing.

Unless you are trying to scale every single energy beam to that speed, in which case I disagree. Boros using his energy to increase his speed does not mean his energy is that speed.

This is like saying fueling a car with gas means that gas can travel at the speed of the car. It just doesn't make any sense.
He physically propels himself with latent energy, like this:
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which as noted on the profile, did basically the same thing as this:

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the problem with your analogy is that his latent energy isn't fuel that is just like converted, nor can you make gasoline into a ******* laser like this
he very explicitly propels himself with the energy
in fact, it's explicitly stated that the energy that's released from his body is what propels him, shown here
https://cdn.**********.com/attachments/844777414596755475/1138244222944813218/image.png
so yeah, the laser is lightspeed and should scale to meteoric burst
Bro Saitama was not surprised and neither was he making an effort to avoid or sense an attack coming his way lol. Saitama can see in complete darkness and has interdimensional hearing.

Even if you think that he was "caught off guard", it's still not stealth mastery, it's just a sneak attack.
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he was looking around cluelessly and is very visibly surprised by the attack
also "interdimensional hearing" is wank, that's literally just telepathy/extrasensory perception and doesn't mean anything for the potency of his normal hearing
but he has enhanced senses regardless, which even flashy flash was able to overcome via being a good ninja
It was not a lowball, it was an outright rejection that it was lifting strength.
You realized that your arguments would not convince anyone (because you were wrong) and that's why you stopped.
I realized my arguments would not convince anyone (because vsb sucks) and that's why I stopped
 
Disagree. Saitama could very easily get counterattacks on Boros. He never struggled with that throughout the entire fight.



As I thought it's the same as his current speed rating. No need to separate it just to copy paste the same thing.

Unless you are trying to scale every single energy beam to that speed, in which case I disagree. Boros using his energy to increase his speed does not mean his energy is that speed.

This is like saying fueling a car with gas means that gas can travel at the speed of the car. It just doesn't make any sense.




Bro Saitama was not surprised and neither was he making an effort to avoid or sense an attack coming his way lol. Saitama can see in complete darkness and has interdimensional hearing.

Even if you think that he was "caught off guard", it's still not stealth mastery, it's just a sneak attack.



It was not a lowball, it was an outright rejection that it was lifting strength.

You realized that your arguments would not convince anyone (because you were wrong) and that's why you stopped.
Idk what the discussion is about ngl but all true. Aside from interdimensional hearing, the Phoenix Space is not another dimension it's just a mental space. He was basically listening to telepathy, in the same way he heard God speaking to Garou.
 
Idk what the discussion is about ngl but all true. Aside from interdimensional hearing, the Phoenix Space is not another dimension it's just a mental space. He was basically listening to telepathy, in the same way he heard God speaking to Garou.
Some goofy goober thinks Boros made Saitama go on the defensive or something
 
He literally did 1000 times better than Boros lol, he "forced" Saitama on the defensive AND overwhelmed his guard
 
Some goofy goober thinks Boros made Saitama go on the defensive or something
Indeed. That doesn't at all go against the entire point, narrative, and resolution of the fight, including the very words of Boros who himself admitted that he was a joke compared to Saitama. That's a logical claim if I've ever seen one!
 
Unironically there's more proof for Extraordinary Genius Carnage Kabuto than Boros scaling to Blast and Boris
 
Also confidence scaling to CK. Dr Genus thought that Carnage Mode could not be stopped even after knowing that Saitama could kill base CK and made him shit his pants just by getting close to him
 
Idk what the discussion is about ngl but all true. Aside from interdimensional hearing, the Phoenix Space is not another dimension it's just a mental space. He was basically listening to telepathy, in the same way he heard God speaking to Garou.
This is interdimensional because the telepathy was happening in a separate dimension.
 
Also confidence scaling to CK. Dr Genus thought that Carnage Mode could not be stopped even after knowing that Saitama could kill base CK and made him shit his pants just by getting close to him
No shocker there. I mean obviously Carnage Mode is a major amp. Dr. Genus' opinion isn't even relevant because CK himself thought he could win even after knowing he could get one-shotted by Saitama normally.
 
This is interdimensional because the telepathy was happening in a separate dimension.
It wasn't. Read the fight again. The Phoenix Space is a mental/spiritual realm that doesn't physically exist. It's literally just a stronger form of telepathy. Saitama "breaking" into it is metaphorical as well. Hell, Saitama is literally in the exact spot he was in prior to infiltrating the space, showing he didn't actually go anywhere, it was all mental. It's even listed as such on the wiki.
 
No shocker there. I mean obviously Carnage Mode is a major amp. Dr. Genus' opinion isn't even relevant because CK himself thought he could win even after knowing he could get one-shotted by Saitama normally.
Oh, this can also be used to suggest that Darkshine can completely no-diff and perhaps even one-shot base CK, as he was fairly stronger than Carnage Mode Carnage Kabuto, being able to defeat him after a 15 minute all-out battle. It's worth noting as well that Darkshine likely wasn't pushed to his limit in this fight seeing as he was willing to fight an even stronger opponent if Genos had one, which wouldn't make sense when considering the fact that Darkshine's ego can be easily shattered when met with an actual threat.
 
I will never understand the need to bring up "he struggled against kabuto" every time
The reason Kabuto was portrayed as being a challenge for Saitama was because it was a joke, and Saitama's thoughts were actually completely unrelated to the fight. He was panicking and reacting to bargain day sales, and then immediately one punches him and changes the topic completely, as if nothing even happened.
The reason Boros was portrayed as a challenge for Saitama was because Boros was actually strong, and Saitama's inner and external monologue reflects that he was actually paying attention to Boros' strength, and considered him to almost be the guy he was looking for.
And then when the fight ends Saitama gets sad that he was too strong and then goes on to hype Boros up even more to Genos.

Kabuto strong as a joke, Boros strong because he's strong. Easy distinction that doesn't really need to be made, since most people who take the time to think about it would conclude something similar.
 
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