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[TimmyTurnero]

The HA could endure Saitama being thrown into it by a serious Tatsumaki. The new esper could destroy parts of the HA and even threatened to destroy it while clashing with Tatsumaki.
He’s high 6-A now?

 

[Recon1511]

Huh? No?

 

[Coomandar]

The HA could endure Saitama being thrown into it by a serious Tatsumaki. The new esper could destroy parts of the HA and even threatened to destroy it while clashing with Tatsumaki.
He’s high 6-A now?

not really
its just a visual thing in this case

 

[Coomandar]

now, saying that she did outspeed a very casual saitama isnt unreal.
enough proofs to put her above flashy?

 

[TimmyTurnero]

not really
its just a visual thing in this case

I thought it was clear that I was joking

 

[Kachon123]

Not really

 

[Coomandar]

I thought it was clear that I was joking

english is not my native language, i can be too literal sometimes
also, i refuse to use translator, my english is not that terrible

 

[Coomandar]

monster garou vs tatsumaki in narrative now would be a ******* epic fight

 

[ZillertheBucko]

Okay so the cubarry translation seems to be that saitama just couldn’t really contain her destruction, rather than “he couldn’t stop her”
Regardless, this chapter is an L overall due to the severe lack of Boros

 

[TimmyTurnero]

Can Tatsumaki pulverizing that large landmasd be a LS feat giving the nature of her powers?

 

[Kachon123]

Can Tatsumaki pulverizing that large landmasd be a LS feat giving the nature of her powers?

Yes. I was thinking of calcing it but you can do it if you would like.

 

[TimmyTurnero]

Yes. I was thinking of calcing it but you can do it if you would like.

I’ll take care of it

 

[Coomandar]

“at least high 6-a, possibly much higher. Saitama called her powers very impressive and said that he couldn’t countain her rampage”


should fit?

 

[ZillertheBucko]

“at least high 6-a, possibly much higher. Saitama called her powers very impressive and said that he couldn’t countain her rampage”


should fit?

She already has upscaling, using much more valid reasoning than this

 

[Kachon123]

“at least high 6-a, possibly much higher. Saitama called her powers very impressive and said that he couldn’t countain her rampage”


should fit?

Yeah, that looks good in my opinion.

 

[Coomandar]

She already has upscaling, using much more valid reasoning than this

what? saitama’s expressions are only valid when referring to characters you like, right?

 

[ZillertheBucko]

what? saitama’s expressions are only valid when referring to characters you like, right?

It’s redundant, because she already is far higher than the value she scales to with her current justifications
but if you’re gonna play this game, then remember that Tatsumaki gets a pretty weak statement of being called impressive, while Boros literally has 5 times that level of statement on his side

 

[Ped2018]

Gonna have to agree with Ziller here

 

[Coomandar]

It’s redundant, because she already is far higher than the value she scales to with her current justifications
but if you’re gonna play this game, then remember that Tatsumaki gets a pretty weak statement of being called impressive, while Boros literally has 5 times that level of statement on his side

boros never impressed saitama at all.
saitama genuinely acknowledged tatsumaki, and this was since the beggining of the fight when he said that her powers are cool.
without mentioning that he literally said that he couldn’t countain her, nothing like this was ever said about boros.
also, boros was the first multicontinental being saitama has ever faced, so yes, at this point, he was the strongest in saitama’s perspective.

 

[Coomandar]

“possibly far higher” means that she can be EVEN ABOVE her current tier.
being just “at least high 6-a” means that she is >>>>>>5 exatons.
but anyway, a possibly far higher rating wont be used in matches, just to show in her profile that she’s much stronger than what was visually shown.

 

[RinneItachi]

More Blast is Saitama proof boys! We're getting there!

 

[Cryo123]

So Tatsumaki couldn't lift Saitama even though she was trying to throw him into space, and Boros could do it with a kick. That along with the Blastavengers considering Earth's hereos (including Tatsumaki) to be small fries, and Boros having ravaged the Universe before coming to Saitama leads me to believe that MB was meant to be a lot stronger than Tatsumaki.

Over the coarse of the day, I've gone from thinking Tatsumaki had a slight AP advantage over MB Boros to being much weaker.

 

[LordTracer]

So Tatsumaki couldn't lift Saitama even though she was trying to throw him into space, and Boros could do it with a kick.

You’re not comparing AP to AP here. Throwing is LS.

 

[Cryo123]

You’re not comparing AP to AP here. Throwing is LS.

She's trying to throw him, that requires energy to do. Boros was capable of generating that energy, she was not.

Let's say we have characters A and B. Character A and B can lift the same island. Character A can throw it at mach 100, while character B can't even manage enough energy to throw it at all. Character A obviously has a higher AP just based off of basic KE.

Also, Tatsumaki is psychic, so her entire AP is based on her ability to pick things up and throw them, so she wouldn't have much of an AP if throwing things wasn't counted.

 

[Coomandar]

She's trying to throw him, that requires energy to do. Boros was capable of greeting that energy, she was not.

Let's say we have characters A and B. Character A and B can lift the same island. Character A can throw it at mach 100, while character B can't even manage enough energy to throw it at all. Character A obviously has a higher AP just based off of basic KE.

Also, Tatsumaki is psychic, so her entire AP is based on her ability to pick things up and throw them, so she wouldn't have much of an AP if throwing things wasn't counted.

tatsumaki was throwing him across the world a few chapters ago………

 

[Coomandar]

She's trying to throw him, that requires energy to do. Boros was capable of generating that energy, she was not.

Let's say we have characters A and B. Character A and B can lift the same island. Character A can throw it at mach 100, while character B can't even manage enough energy to throw it at all. Character A obviously has a higher AP just based off of basic KE.

Also, Tatsumaki is psychic, so her entire AP is based on her ability to pick things up and throw them, so she wouldn't have much of an AP if throwing things wasn't counted.

and no, her tk is not based on her ability to pick up things, she can use focused attacks that works directly on the target. like when she made saitama’s muscle twitch

 

[Cryo123]

tatsumaki was throwing him across the world a few chapters ago………

She dragged him more than threw him. I can see the inconsistency, but there's no way saying that she's "using enough energy to throw him to space" is just a coincidence.

 

[Coomandar]

She dragged him more than threw him. I can see the inconsistency, but there's no way saying that she's "using enough energy to throw him to space" is just a coincidence.

dragging ad throwing is the same thing since she uses TK for both.
she probably wasn’t trying to send him to the space at all, just trying to knock him out

 

[LordTracer]

She's trying to throw him, that requires energy to do. Boros was capable of generating that energy, she was not.

Boros kicked him, which is striking strength. Throwing someone is not striking strength, it’s lifting strength. You can’t compare them as if they’re the same thing. In fact, it’s even against the rules to get LS from things like kicks.

Also, Tatsumaki is psychic, so her entire AP is based on her ability to pick things up and throw them, so she wouldn't have much of an AP if throwing things wasn't counted.

Attack Potency: At least Multi-Continent level (Even while wounded and not going all-out, she clashed with Fused Psykos and severely damaged her.[16] Once she was able to focus on the fight, she dissipated one of Psykos' beams and effortlessly overpowered her, twisting all of Z-City in the process[17] and obliterating her on the cellular level.

Ah yes, because all of this is lifting.

 

[TimmyTurnero]

Her being incapable of lifting him makes 0 sense, the statement made in the WB should have been made here.
Hell, I’d say we should probably use the statement whether it’s been made in the manga or not.

Tatsumaki can easily carry drag, and send Saitama flying for miles whenever she’s using TK on herself or on an object to attack Saitama, but the moment she tries to directly attack him it just doesn’t work. There’s clearly something more in play than Saitama just being heavy.

 

[TimmyTurnero]

And to say Boros> Tatsumaki because he could launch Saitama while Tats couldn’t would make people like Suiryu superior to Tats because he could kick him into the air

 

[Coomandar]

Her being incapable of lifting him makes 0 sense, the statement made in the WB should have been made here.
Hell, I’d say we should probably use the statement whether it’s been made in the manga or not.

Tatsumaki can easily carry drag, and send Saitama flying for miles whenever she’s using TK on herself or on an object to attack Saitama, but the moment she tries to directly attack him it just doesn’t work. There’s clearly something more in play than Saitama just being heavy.

he was probably resisting it, consciously

 

[TimmyTurnero]

he was probably resisting it, consciously

Given the context the WB gives us, and considering the same scene takes place with the same results, I’d say it’s valid to use the statement for the manga as well. It’d make 0 sense to do otherwise.

 

[Coomandar]

Given the context the WB gives us, and considering the same scene takes place with the same results, I’d say it’s valid to use the statement for the manga as well. It’d make 0 sense to do otherwise.

this would give her a weakness that wasn’t shown before in the manga, so im not sure if i do agree

 

[TimmyTurnero]

this would give her a weakness that wasn’t shown before in the manga, so im not sure if i do agree

The weakness is shown now. It’s the same scene, and we know the manga does indeed adapt off of the webcomic. While its not 1:1 or even 1:2, when scenes such as this are taking place we quite literally know what it’s referencing.

And considering we can’t quite quantify the limits of this weakness, this wouldn’t affect Tatsumaki in any of her battles.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

Honestly we should use anime statements over webcomic statements tbh
5-B Boros takes another W

 

[Epiccheev]

If we assume
1.He's heavy: wouldn't work because he's been ragdolled around by foes much weaker than tats like carnage kabuto, also doubt HA wouldn't have weighed him at least once and found out he was much heavier than a mountain range. Besides the ground being fine when he walks would be inconsistent.

2.He can generate self momentum to break out of it with his LS: would work if he wasn't apparently enjoying Tatsumaki making him float. You can see him smiling and not moving or resisting at all

3.Original weakness to willpower: Never mentioned in the manga. Even Garou resisting Psykos TK was more of a reactive evolution type thing rather than big shounen willpower.

This is just a case of Saitama directly resisting the ability itself for no real reason. Not every resistance needs an explained mechanism or a justification, much less trying to slap some assumption to it.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

Boros has layered bfr woohoo

 

[Ovrhide]

We no longer need any “x person is above boros” anymore, so I agree to the ban of the topic, but we no longer even need that anyways, since a somewhat stronger Saitama is very impressed with Tatsumaki.

Tats simps, y’all won.

 

[Coomandar]

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