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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!
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Yeah he was flying
garou appears to be flying in the top pannel, actually
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Ayo?
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If accepted, it would be really consistent considering that AB Bang believed he could go extreme diff with EC, and lost to Garou who at the time was 6-CAyo?
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Post-Molt EC, AB Bang and Post-Darkshine Garou all being High 7-A+ would be great.
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wait so is darkshine gonna become high 7-A+ too?
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They couldnt keep high 7-A opm down for long
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I would say so, as he has the highest dura in the association.
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Sounds like Genos is getting a possible upgrade as well
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No? Why would Darkshine scale to AB Bang?
Megaraptor149
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What calc?
Recon1511
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Honestly Bomb being equal if not stronger than Bang doesn't bother me at all tbh
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This isn’t about base Bang, this is about Awakening Breath Bang.
Recon1511
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Yeah I know, Bomb is just built different
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He truly is the bomb fr fr
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He was able to spar with Bang with no damage. Also, he was able to tank hits from Spiral Garou, who would best Bang in his next evolution. Darkshine one shot ENW, which monster Garou took multiple hits to kill. (Given ENW was probably a little more powerful at that point)
Also, seeing as Bang would be pretty close to Monster Garou's in terms of AP, I think we can throw out the "He grew 1000 times faster after beating Bang" argument. In other words, downscale Bang's speed from Garou's Relativistic+ rating.
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Base Bang.
Literally irrelevant. Darkshine taking hits from Half-Monster Garou doesn’t mean he can do the same with Post-Darkshine Garou.
ENW was growing stronger as time went on, and Darkshine has already been shown to be weaker than a lesser form of Garou.
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Lol I forgor
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What Mountain level statement?
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This is one point I will contend with. He may have been losing due to his cowardice, but in terms of physicals, he was more than on top of things. He's called the "pinnacle of physical combat" by the narrator.
Someone asked if Bos Genos could destroy a mountain and Murata said yes.
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Garou literally matched him in strength, continued to grow stronger afterwards and straight-up overpowered him. Darkshine is clearly weaker than peak Half-Monster Garou.
Aside from the fact that Murata statements are only worth possibly ratings, destroying a mountain isn’t necessarily Mountain level.
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It doesn't make sense to use the lowest possible end for destroying a mountain. When a character is stated to be capable of "destroying a building", nobody argues for Wall Level AP just because on the lowest conceivable end of the feat that's all it would take. The authorial intent of saying Genos can destroy a mountain is to put him at that level of destructive power.
Also, while I think that Darkshine's AP is decently lower than his dura, I will concede that debate for now.
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You can make a thread to change the standards for that if you’d like, but as of now, a simple “can destroy a mountain” statement is prolly gonna get Small City level unless you argue Genos would vape the whole thing.
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So mountain level statements are always just small city level? Also pretty sure it was said he could level the mountain, if that changes anything.
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Not always, just if there’s no context given to how the mountain is destroyed (like with the Genos statement). I know statements like “shattering a mountain” use the Small City level end.
And afaik, for calcs involving mountains, if there’s no canonical size for the mountain, the baseline 609.6 meters height is usually used for it.
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Goofy wiki standards moment #926183
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For once, I will agree that it doesn’t make sense for the baseline of Mountain level to not be… y’know, the calc for destroying a mountain.
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I get it in cases where a character clearly shatters part of a mountain on panel/screen yet other characters or even WoG claim they shattered an entire mountain
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Do you know where this is?
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He actually said he destroyed some mountains but vs battles didn't accept it
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Thanks
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Doesn't the manga directly show that he only destroyed sections of said mountains rather than nuking them in their entirety? I don't see how this WoG statement would be usable.
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I was thinking, shouldn't Zombieman be High 7-C or possibly High 7-C AP wise since ONE said he could eventually beat Deep Sea King?
Maybe it's a Kabuto situation where he just gets inside an exhausted DSK and targets his internal organs but I don't think he is really large in his dry form for that to be feasible
Maybe it's a Kabuto situation where he just gets inside an exhausted DSK and targets his internal organs but I don't think he is really large in his dry form for that to be feasible
