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There was only one response in the vs match, why rush? Unless you all look at the profiles and give your opinion.
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Strongest Non-Smurf Low 2-C (Discussion)
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Dragonite007
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I thought he already stomped Nier, I undo the edit
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Only one answer so far.
EDIT: Although he would stand above Mori because of the vs thread he had that looks like Dracula steps on.
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Touhou will become full 2-C, since the thread has 3 staff aproval, So Touhou get disqualified.
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I don't see for Arata anything to interact with Giygas nor do anything against passive Void hax and all the PSI/Status effects.
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Oh yeah, Arata is also just baseline in AP, while Giygas is massively beyond that lol.
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Btw, Parca, Dracula and Giygas/Arata should remove from candidate since their got spot in list
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Parca is def above Giygas and Arata, and I'll check Dracula to see how he goes against the former.
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No hope for beat Dracula lol
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To be fair I have some questions.No hope for beat Dracula lol
Are his resistances 4D? Same with his NPI.
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Megaraptor149
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Idk about that, i see in vs thread Dracula vs Mori, Dracula hax and resistance is 4D
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Megaraptor149
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Beside that Dracula has Passive Plot Manipulation which has Low Multiversal range what i see in vs thread
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Disqualified
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Two things
Giygas also has to worry about type 3 madness (Which is, of course, passive but happens overtime), his 2-3 layers of 4-D powernull, and Breakdown Phenomenon (Which is a combo of his own Void, Soul, Deconstruction, absorption, BFR ect) with practically any attack he uses.
Arata has type 4 and 6 immortality based on magic which is information type 2. Which it appears Giygas can't interact with.
Giygas also has to worry about type 3 madness (Which is, of course, passive but happens overtime), his 2-3 layers of 4-D powernull, and Breakdown Phenomenon (Which is a combo of his own Void, Soul, Deconstruction, absorption, BFR ect) with practically any attack he uses.
Arata is not Baseline.
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I don't think this work in Giygas, since he is Mindless
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Isn't AE1 better though? Plus void hax makes that null.
Giygas is mindless, that ain't working.
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Nah, they're just two different things.
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There is where I am confused...
Fundamental: These characters can manipulate information, which serves as fundamental building block of reality. This can allow characters to rewrite the world to their whims, often by programming it much like they would a virtual reality. These manipulation can come on many levels. For some it might just be the mechanism behind mundane magical abilities, while others can rewrite information to change reality, causality or the laws of nature.
This legit seems like Type 2 concept but weaker, where just destroying everything is enough. Plus it is more about changing the laws of reality rather than interacting with abstract stuff.
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Could Parca be on that list? She has standard 2-C equipment.
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yep, you can have up to 2-A haxs, but still on the list. You need to have 5-D haxs to not be in the list
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Yeah. Plus concept AE 1.
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2-C with the Court of Fate ---> This is listed in her AP, it's not just Hax
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She's not physically that strong though. Ergo is still hax.
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Okay, by the looks of it, Dracula will take Nier's place.
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Since Dracula won against Nier, I put him in 4th
Dragonite007
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Megaraptor already admited that Dracula will win against Parca, so he is above her in the list
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Sertrous (For Avatars) , Destiny Characters (For Avatar) , Veldora ( For Clones) has Immortality Type 9. (2A Distance)
Basically these characters can't do anything against each other.
Their ranking is purely in the order in which they were added to this list.
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Dracula can't do anything against the top 3.
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Well, he has passive Plot Manipulation, which rewrites reality for Dracula to win. So I guess at least Veldora couldn't defeat him.
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Please no.
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Anyways no, the fate manip isn't passive and so Koriel just thinks and erases them on a CM1 and Info Type 2 level and the same applies to Altair, this would at worst let him incon the former before he decides to rip her Idea Sefirah from her body which stops people from using thier powers, and for Altair getting erased on a CM1 level would just neg her from being able to use her immo
Uh, no
Sertrous can straight up just kill Crota which is why he is above him
Veldora gets merked by both Crota whose interdimensional range allows him to reach and go into spaces 2-A distances away, and while Sertous negs his immo and regen and ggs
Sertous beats Destiny, Destiny beats Veldora, Veldora gets beaten by dracula, and medea gets beaten by everyone else
Dracula should also not take the first place as he only really incons with First and Second due to the plot manip (despite the former having resistance to it, but dnd is an old and massive verse so someone would need a second udl to even attempt to fix it), but can't actually do anything against them
CodeCCLL
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Also, Ecang definitely be removed from this list as it has the 1A Conceptual Manipulation Type 1.
As such, all 3rd Step cultivators would have Conceptual Manipulation (Type 1) based on a 1-A concept. The specific concept(s) of course, will vary from cultivator to cultivator.
As such, all 3rd Step cultivators would have Conceptual Manipulation (Type 1) based on a 1-A concept. The specific concept(s) of course, will vary from cultivator to cultivator.
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It literally doesn't have 3rd step CM1 tho
CodeCCLL
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No, it can't do anything at all. It looks like you don't know anything about Veldora.
Dracula cannot defeat Veldora. Veldora's real body resides in 2A imaginary space.
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This must really be a joke. You talk without even looking at the profiles of the characters.
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It literally can, it can permanently kill other gods who have all of vVldroa's relevant immoralities and regen, whose true forms and avatars exist across the entire DND multiverse and is far greater than Veldora's 2-A range, in addition, he already has access to spells which can let him reach Imaginary space or can just use Gate and rip Veldora's true self out of imaginary space
You are the one not reading the profiles, so please, shut
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