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Strongest Non-Smurf Low 2-C (Discussion)

Touhou will become full 2-C, since the thread has 3 staff aproval, So Touhou get disqualified.

Free Spot
 
Two things

I don't see for Arata anything to interact with Giygas nor do anything against passive Void hax and all the PSI/Status effects.
Arata has type 4 and 6 immortality based on magic which is information type 2. Which it appears Giygas can't interact with.

Giygas also has to worry about type 3 madness (Which is, of course, passive but happens overtime), his 2-3 layers of 4-D powernull, and Breakdown Phenomenon (Which is a combo of his own Void, Soul, Deconstruction, absorption, BFR ect) with practically any attack he uses.

Oh yeah, Arata is also just baseline in AP, while Giygas is massively beyond that lol.
Arata is not Baseline.
 
Nah, they're just two different things.
There is where I am confused...

Fundamental: These characters can manipulate information, which serves as fundamental building block of reality. This can allow characters to rewrite the world to their whims, often by programming it much like they would a virtual reality. These manipulation can come on many levels. For some it might just be the mechanism behind mundane magical abilities, while others can rewrite information to change reality, causality or the laws of nature.


This legit seems like Type 2 concept but weaker, where just destroying everything is enough. Plus it is more about changing the laws of reality rather than interacting with abstract stuff.
 
There is actually a very confusing situation here.

Sertrous , Veldora, Destiny Characters, Dracula should share the same place in #1 Spot.
 
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From what I read, Koriel has no counter to Parcas fate hax. Similarly, Koriel also has no counter to Altair plot manip or her immo type 8 i dont think.
Anyways no, the fate manip isn't passive and so Koriel just thinks and erases them on a CM1 and Info Type 2 level and the same applies to Altair, this would at worst let him incon the former before he decides to rip her Idea Sefirah from her body which stops people from using thier powers, and for Altair getting erased on a CM1 level would just neg her from being able to use her immo
Sertrous (For Avatars) , Destiny Characters (For Avatar) , Veldora ( For Clones) has Immortality Type 9. (2A Distance)

Basically these characters can't do anything against each other.

Their ranking is purely in the order in which they were added to this list.
Uh, no
Sertrous can straight up just kill Crota which is why he is above him
Veldora gets merked by both Crota whose interdimensional range allows him to reach and go into spaces 2-A distances away, and while Sertous negs his immo and regen and ggs
There is actually a very confusing situation here.

Sertrous , Veldora, Destiny Characters, Medea, Dracula should share the same place in #1 Spot.
Sertous beats Destiny, Destiny beats Veldora, Veldora gets beaten by dracula, and medea gets beaten by everyone else
Dracula should also not take the first place as he only really incons with First and Second due to the plot manip (despite the former having resistance to it, but dnd is an old and massive verse so someone would need a second udl to even attempt to fix it), but can't actually do anything against them
 
Also, Ecang definitely be removed from this list as it has the 1A Conceptual Manipulation Type 1.

As such, all 3rd Step cultivators would have Conceptual Manipulation (Type 1) based on a 1-A concept. The specific concept(s) of course, will vary from cultivator to cultivator.
 
Also, Ecang definitely be removed from this list as it has the 1A Conceptual Manipulation Type 1.

As such, all 3rd Step cultivators would have Conceptual Manipulation (Type 1) based on a 1-A concept. The specific concept(s) of course, will vary from cultivator to cultivator.
It literally doesn't have 3rd step CM1 tho
 
Veldora gets merked by both Crota whose interdimensional range allows him to reach and go into spaces 2-A distances away, and while Sertous negs his immo and regen and ggs
No, it can't do anything at all. It looks like you don't know anything about Veldora.

Dracula cannot defeat Veldora. Veldora's real body resides in 2A imaginary space.
 
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No, it can't do anything at all. It looks like you don't know anything about Veldora.

Dracula cannot defeat Veldora. Veldora's real body resides in 2A imaginary space.

This also applies to Medea.
It literally can, it can permanently kill other gods who have all of vVldroa's relevant immoralities and regen, whose true forms and avatars exist across the entire DND multiverse and is far greater than Veldora's 2-A range, in addition, he already has access to spells which can let him reach Imaginary space or can just use Gate and rip Veldora's true self out of imaginary space
This must really be a joke. You talk without even looking at the profiles of the characters.
Powers and Abilities: Sublime Paragon Cultivation minus Conceptual Manipulation (Type 1), Divine Sense, Pocket Reality Manipulation (Can warp and manipulate the miniature universe inside itself), Large Size (Type 7. Large enough to contain 100,000 galaxies within themselves), Plant Manipulation (Can control virtually all plant life in the universe)
You are the one not reading the profiles, so please, shut
 
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