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He mean that rather than directly interacting with concept, you can indirectly affect the concept by affect what the concept tied to, since Type 2 mean the concept itself is dependent on something, if you affect said thing, it will create a chain reaction that alter the conceptyes it is
saying someone with CM 1 can interact with type 2 concept nep with no feats is and will always be an nlf
i agree with everything hereHe mean that rather than directly interacting with concept, you can indirectly affect what the concept tied to, since Type 2 mean the concept itself is dependent on something, if you affect said thing, it will create a chain reaction that alter the concept
However in this case, CM1 guy try to affect the NEP guy that lack concept type 2, so it is pointless since there is no concept to interact with, and the concept is absence, it can't be tied to anything for CM1 guy to indirectly affect the concept via affect what the concept tied to. And even if we sematically nitpicking thing, type 2 concept of nothingness will be tied to the nothingness itself, since it describe what is nothingness, that go back to the start where you need to be able interact with the nothingness first in order to indirectly affect type 2 concept of nothingness
Doesnt the concept still paradoxically exist, like what the NEP page says “Nonexistent Physiology refers to the ability to lack certain aspects of one's existence, to paradoxically 'exist,' yet lack certain identifiable traits of existence or exist outside of a particular scope of 'existence.'” and would still be tied to somethingHe mean that rather than directly interacting with concept, you can indirectly affect the concept by affect what the concept tied to, since Type 2 mean the concept itself is dependent on something, if you affect said thing, it will create a chain reaction that alter the concept
However in this case, CM1 guy try to affect the NEP guy that lack concept type 2, so it is pointless since there is no concept to interact with, and the concept is absence, it can't be tied to anything for CM1 guy to indirectly affect the concept via affect what the concept tied to.
Yeah thats for nothingness but what about lacking something the concept of something not inherently nonexistentAnd even if we sematically nitpicking thing, type 2 concept of nothingness will be tied to the nothingness itself, since it describe what is nothingness, that go back to the start where you need to be able interact with the nothingness first in order to indirectly affect type 2 concept of nothingness
unless the guy is NEP Nature 3, otherwise it make no sense. The paradoxical part is just mean that normally nothingness mean, nothing exist, however still some how existing, it have almost nothing on aspectDoesnt the concept still paradoxically exist, like what the NEP page says “Nonexistent Physiology refers to the ability to lack certain aspects of one's existence, to paradoxically 'exist,' yet lack certain identifiable traits of existence or exist outside of a particular scope of 'existence.'” and would still be tied to something
the.................what?????, now you make no sense bruhhYeah thats for nothingness but what about lacking something the concept of something not inherently nonexistent
If it somehow still exist, and counts as a concept, shouldnt it still be tied to whatever it’s linked to, also also if it is a Type 3, is it possible?unless the guy is NEP Nature 3, otherwise it make no sense. The paradoxical part is just mean that normally nothingness mean, nothing exist, however still some how existing, it have almost nothing on aspect
Like the concept is tied to nothingness in this situation, what if its something elsethe.................what?????, now you make no sense bruhh
moodTbf, current NEP is a mess
if the concept still exist, then the character in question will never lack it in the first place, which mean his nonexistence aspect is wrong, unless he is NEP Nature Type 3, which allow for paradoxical existence even with the aspectsIf it somehow still exist, and counts as a concept, shouldnt it still be tied to whatever it’s linked to, also also if it is a Type 3, is it possible?
no, it is impossible, concept type 3 tied with what it describes, concept type 2 of circle describe the fundamental principle of circle, and also tied to said circle, concept type 2 of nothingness describe properties of nothingness and also tied to it, you can't have a concept type 2 that somehow tied to a completely different thing that it not describe and govern over, the only concept that is possible in such a way in our current system is concept type 3, as it is lesser realist concept, it is tied to what it describe and govern, at the same time it is a part of a larger realityLike the concept is tied to nothingness in this situation, what if its something else
Surprising how M went from not so being quite broken ish (but still fairly powerful) to becoming pretty broken and even abstractically hard to affect lol.Amusing to see my obscure Nyarlathotep's generating pages of discussion.
Like us WABS guys are just chilling, and this discussion is still ongoing.
WUT. Really?Wizard101 might be getting tier 1-A now
apparently yeahWUT. Really?
More specifically, neither I nor Zenkai want to write the CRTs ourselves. If other people are interested, I can provide arguments, comment on the thread, and post relevant feats/statements, but I don't want to be the OP.but no one wants to make a CRT for it
oh thats truePretty sure the key with AE for Spawn is 6d
bruh i knew it
i asked a staff member and he said someone with CM 1 cant interact with nep 2 aspect 2 even if its a type 2 concept
Bruhh, with NEP2 even if the character do not lack concept, CM1 user can't interact with it without feat bruhh, you aksed a very obvious questionNEP2
Wut??Another GoW downgrade thread
Wut??
GoW is going to have less hax than DB goku at this rateAnother GoW downgrade thread
To my understanding, the DBH cosmology is still composite, and I believe there is still a hyper-timeline based on the other universe in the timeline.oh wtf
Spaces in Times Dragon Ball revision
Continuation of this thread, will make the arguments very clear now with a voting poll from the beginning, full disclosure though, if this becomes as much of a mess and flood and the last thread i will ask for this to be closed and make a staff thread instead, clear? ok, so for the thread itself...vsbattles.com
No more 5-D DB???