Stewie Griffin Upgrades?

[ZacharyGrossman273]

His durability, lifting and striking strength for prep should be immesurable since he can exist beyond spacetime.

 

[Cropfist]

???

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

What's so hard to understand?

 

[TheMightyRegulator]

Didn't he just travel to it? That doesn't make him a higher dimensional being.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Existing outside the space time continuum can't be don't by normal methods so he can use his tech to make himself 4D.

 

[TheMightyRegulator]

In fiction that's not the case.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Such as?

 

[TheMightyRegulator]

Thanos and Adam Warlock travelling to TOAA's plane.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

It's specifically stated his technology brough him "outs die the space time continuum" and TOAA allowed them to do that.

 

[Nico-v11]

On another note shouldn't Stewie's base stats also be increased due to this fight? https://youtu.be/Lij0apcnw1k

 

[TheMightyRegulator]

TOAA was just expecting them. It was neither hindering nor helping them. It was Thanos who advised Adam on how to reach the realm with Adam doing all the heavy lifting.

Either way, this clearly did not make Thanos a higher dimensional abomination.

The Ultimates also travelled outside the multiverse vis a machine. That doesn't mean they were suddenly able to trade fists with Galactus.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Keep in mind that Stevie griffin had total control over the laws of physics as well. The only "rules they had were those they decided.

 

[TheMightyRegulator]

True but the same could be said for every tier 2 reality warper, but we discourage adding applications of an ability that haven't been implied or else inconsistencies like every omnipresent entity being able to ignore durability would appear.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

But it was implied. Directly stated in fact.

 

[TheMightyRegulator]

Controlling the laws of physics doesn't imply bench pressing universes.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

It does when you control a realm outside the universe. And either way he created the universe using his time machine.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Why was Stewie's speed downgraded?

And shouldn't stewie also get stuff like Toon Force, 4th Wall Breaking, Regenerationn, Telekinesis, Mind Manipulation and maybe more?

 

[Antvasima]

Stewie is never shown to have anywhere near immeasurable speed under regular circumstances, so it has to be considered as a plot convenience outlier.

It should probably be considered as such for several other characters, that are inaccurately listed as immeasurable or infinite for similar feats, as well.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

He is immeausrable when in the void outside spacetime as the only rules are the ones he and Brian want

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

I agree. Stewie was pretty much in-control of everything when in non-existence and he would only be immeasurable when in the void anyway as a low-2-C. He isnt immeasurable outside of that.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Yes but he can do it with prep so he's immeaurable with prep.

 

[Antvasima]

That would be easily misunderstood as that he can arrange immeasurable speed that is applicable for regular combat purposes, so preferably not.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Just like Farnsworth's time travel?

 

[Antvasima]

Farnsworth should preferably not have immeasurable speed either. We will likely adjust the requirements for that tier in the near future.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Farnsworth doesen't.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Stewie having time manipulation, which he is listed as having, makes more sense.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, we will not accept this. Sorry, but that is final.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Not accept what? I just conceded to him not having immeasurable speed or lifting strength.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Does anyone agree/disagree with my suggested haxes for Stewie?

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Maybe he should have a "standard equipment" key like Rick Sanchez does?

 

[Antvasima]

@Inti Okay. Never mind then.

@Kukui Why do you think that he should have them?

 

[RadicalMrR]

We should treat this the same way we do Mordecai and Rigby. They should have the same stats and just count all this as hax.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Him just having been time manipulation would make more sense

 

[Antvasima]

@RadicalMrR What do you mean?

@Inti He can time travel backwards, forwards, and sideways in time, but that is it, as far as I am aware.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

He says "the only physics here is ours" so he can control physics, presumable including time.

 

[RadicalMrR]

There was a episode in which Mordecai and Rigby had complete control over a dimension, originally we rated them Low 2-C for it but apparently we ultimately decided that having complete control over the laws of physics doesnt necessarily mean they would be Low 2-C.

Take what im saying with a grain of salt because this is second hand knowledge as I wasnt here during the revisions.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Stevie later used his time machine to create the universe in that same episode so he's definitely low 2C

 

[Antvasima]

@Inti Far too speculative for my taste, and an extraordinary situation as well, that is not applicable to regular circumstances. I would appreciate if you permanently drop this topic, and do not bring up any more similar loose speculation in the future. Thank you.

@RadicalMrR Okay.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Ant, please don't overreact. Just say "too speculative, so we should probably remove time manipulation"

 

[Antvasima]

I have adjusted the page.