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Immesurable reaction speed for Omnitrix's fail-safe proposal

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Omnitrix gave Ben feedback to stop explosion and save him from annihilarg's big bang, but Ben was already struck by big bang

So it should be immesurable speed feat
"They can dodge an attack that already has been struck"
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/S... dodge an attack that already has been struck
Edit (A huge thanks to @Lynieryz for this additional supporting point) That big bang created whole spacetime continuum and all of time also began with it , so reacted to it is also an immesurable speed feat
Agree (15) : @Firestorm808 @DarkDragonMedeus @Hellformer @Reiner04 @Lynieryz @Lord_Farquaad69420@Popbum @Greenshifter (Green agrees with second reasoning only) @LuffyRuffy46307 @Spectra_Schiffer @E6pire @zaraus @Killerdrone123 @Gendolfgg1 @Baabasaplar95
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That's isn't Immeasurable Speed Feat
Immeasurable (Movement unbound from the flow of linear time, which cannot be measured. Given that S = D/T, if T is undefined, the speed formula cannot be applied. This is the same reason why multiple temporal dimensions also grant immeasurable speed. For further information, see the "Further Explanations"-section below)
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OMNIVERSAL-KING said:
It's clearly stated here that a character with immesurable speed can dodge an attack that has already been struck
"They can dodge an attack that already has been struck"
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Speed#:~:text=They can dodge an attack that already has been struck
And it's from official VsBW's speed page
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....thats not whats happening, your example shows the omnitrix transforming ben as the big bang is growing (which isn't immeasurable speed), by "attack thats already been struck" it means that it dodges the punch after its been thrown, if a ball moves from point a to b, the immeasurable character would dodge the ball, when it's already at point b.
 
And as far as I remember, there is no time in this white space.
Timeless Voids, i.e. areas within a setting that lack time or exist outside of the flow of time, cannot be used to grant Infinite speed. One might be tempted to apply Speed = Distance/Time and say that time equals 0 in this situation, thus moving through this type of void should result in Infinite speed. However, in a Timeless Void, time does not exist, making Time = Not Applicable.

So in short, Time = Nonexistent or Not Applicable and Distance/Time = Undefined and cannot be determined under these conditions.
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Lord_Farquaad69420 said:
....thats not whats happening, your example shows the omnitrix transforming ben as the big bang is growing (which isn't immeasurable speed), by "attack thats already been struck" it means that it dodges the punch after its been thrown, if a ball moves from point a to b, the immeasurable character would dodge the ball, when it's already at point b.
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Big band was still growing, and Ben was already caught in it (so it already struck him)
Idk what's wrong
 
Lord_Farquaad69420 said:
....thats not whats happening, your example shows the omnitrix transforming ben as the big bang is growing (which isn't immeasurable speed), by "attack thats already been struck" it means that it dodges the punch after its been thrown, if a ball moves from point a to b, the immeasurable character would dodge the ball, when it's already at point b.
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Accurate example, the immeasurable speed character would dodge it when it's already at point b and the same case is over here. Let's assume that the point at which big bang started is point "a". The point at which ben floats is point "b",the traveling medium is big bang and the reaction speed is of omnitrix. So you can clearly see that big bang was successfully able to reach point b and then the omnitrix reacted to it without causing any damage to Ben. Which perfectly suits your way of explanation.
 
Hellformer said:
Accurate example, the immeasurable speed character would dodge it when it's already at point b and the same case is over here. Let's assume that the point at which big bang started is point "a". The point at which ben floats is point "b",the traveling medium is big bang and the reaction speed is of omnitrix. So you can clearly see that big bang was successfully able to reach point b and then the omnitrix reacted to it without causing any damage to Ben. Which perfectly suits your way of explanation.
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Big bang had already hit Ben and was still extending (so Ben transformed into feedback after getting hit by it) , Ben obviously can't survive it so omnitrix reacted to something that already happened
 
You also have to consider that they are before the beginning of everything and that it was the Big Bang that created time, so this can also work as support.
 
OMNIVERSAL-KING said:
Big band was still growing, and Ben was already caught in it (so it already struck him)
Idk what's wrong
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because all we see is the light around ben, it doesn't mean that he couldn't have transformed as the bomb (not gonna say the name) was growing, feedback could have been absorbing the energy as the excess light was going around him, hence why we see a bright light up until the ship, it just means that feedback was in the process of absorbing everything.
 
Also OP already should mention it that bigbang created all of cosmology including spacetime in an instant and expands through it, so it should have immeasurable speed.
Huesito88 said:
If said Big Bang created Time/History that should not be "just support" lol
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Have I told u before that ur PFP is cute? Don't bother recalling since I'll just say it again that it's cute. Tempted to steal it pretty much.
 
Lord_Farquaad69420 said:
because all we see is the light around ben, it doesn't mean that he couldn't have transformed as the bomb (not gonna say the name) was growing, feedback could have been absorbing the energy as the excess light was going around him, hence why we see a bright light up until the ship, it just means that feedback was in the process of absorbing everything.
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When Ben transformed into feedback, the light stared decreasing and took shape of a ball
Here's full clip
 
Tbh, it's just good to not bother with other stuff if the said bigbang by definition has immeasurable speed. Not saying the arguing is wrong since I do disagree with those points too, but just saying that it's futile. Do some Ayanokoji lvl of moves man smh.
 
Firestorm808 said:
Do we have the precedent of any similar feats from other franchises?
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Samur Maykr was able to wing through creation, which consist of infinite universes and timelines, should be similar to Ben 10 bigbang.
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