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Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse Discussion Thread - WITH SPOILERS
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i'm a calc guy, the calculable stats are my favorite ones
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This is your craft, and it does a lot for our pages, so I gotta respect that
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Intelligence also cool tho
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An absolute point and a canon event aren't the same thing. Strange Supreme losing the love of his life isn't something that happens to every other Doctor Strange
Although in every universe, he never gets to be with Christine, so maybe...
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It could just be that that specific Strange's story had to go that way for him to become a sorcerer, just like how not every Peter Parker became Spider-Man the same way (in particular Tom's, we don't even know if bro had an Uncle Ben for certain apart from a throwaway line in What If of all things
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Canon events are things that happen to all variants of a mantle (for instance, the Spider-People, obviously)It could just be that that specific Strange's story had to go that way for him to become a sorcerer, just like how not every Peter Parker became Spider-Man the same way (in particular Tom's, we don't even know if bro had an Uncle Ben for certain apart from a throwaway line in What If of all things
An absolute point isn't
They are very similar ofc
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On an unrelated note, I find it absolutely outrageous how easily Miles low-diffed Jessica Drew, non-lethally, and while he was more fixated on just running away.
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He's simply himothy
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He's Him
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Miles needs an intelligence upgrade
He activated the Go Home Machine all on his own despite having no prior experience with it
Tbh the verse in general is in major need of intelligence upgrades
He activated the Go Home Machine all on his own despite having no prior experience with it
Tbh the verse in general is in major need of intelligence upgrades
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Miles is just GOATED
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This is just speculation but most canon events are along the lines of "something that can be a variety of different things leads to an important moment of growth for our hero" (ie. An arch-enemy causes the death of a Police Captain close to a Spider-Person), Stephens could just be "a tragic, unpredictable event leads to Stephen Strange seeking out magic"
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If I recall correctly, Miguel explained that Canon Events only apply to Spider-Man, along the Web of Life and Destiny.
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Tbh, Miles wasn't doing too badly in the fight, and considering Miles from the first movie was already on the original Peters level by the end (Fought on par with Kingpin), it isn't too hard to see.
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Surprised no one made a profile on Gwen, despite her, in my opinion, having the best character arc in Across (I like Miles more and still do, but upon reflection, I think Gwen had a stronger arc). So I made my own for anyone to use.
Are these your drawings? They look good
Are these your drawings? They look good
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Yooooo this is a great draft, honestly it's good enough to go up now with some clean up here and there.
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Yeah, you guys have free rain over the blog; I just made it so the page can actually be made by making it easier for others rather than from scratch.
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Draft looks good! Personally I'd call the page "Spider-Woman (Into the Spider-Verse)", though thats more of a me thing
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I'm working on a page for Peter B. Parker right now, too.
First, I just need to make a CRT to argue for allowing references to be placed before punctuation.
First, I just need to make a CRT to argue for allowing references to be placed before punctuation.
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Why isn't that allowed
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Tbh Spider-Woman sounds better actually now that I think about it.
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You should add that Peter performed the gear feat while exhausted
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I'm not entirely sure about scaling 616 Peter to Miles Peter. I remember this one video noted a source from one of the directors saying that RIPeter is at his prime and is a powerful contrast to the older versions. However, it shouldn't matter because the Prowler tussles with RIPeter just fine, and Peter B does with the Prowler. So probably word it "Shouldn't be too far behind"
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Peter B. isn't out of his physical prime. In fact, they hammer home several times throughout both movies that he's most effective
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Not too sure about the first; I mean, they point out his body's different shape (Phat), and he is basically in depression while eating to cope with it. Though the second movie does raise a point, he seems to be up to date and now has a family that probably did a complete reversal.
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They also show that he's a full-time Spider-Man and has been for a long time, meaning that despite his gut, he's well within physical operating condition
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I definitely agree with that, I'd say he's definitely weaker than the Prime Peter we see in Miles universe, but he clearly hasn't lost his fighting ability.
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Again, they never treat him as weaker. In fact, the context behind 1610 Peter being in the prime of his life by comparison is about how much more enjoyable his life is. I don't recall them ever saying anything that even implies he's gotten weaker
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"He stands as a powerful contrast to the older version of Spidey, which arrives from another Spider-Verse." I think that generally meant, in like every sense being more capable. The first movie was a more laid-back, depressed, and slightly overweight Peter in contrast to Miles Peter who was "the ideal physique."
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The mention of Peter's weight and physique makes it seem more like they're talking about appearance
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Nah I'm the one who mentioned his weight, I just thought it was clear they were referring in every sense that the Peter we see is better. The entire thing talks about how he's the ideal version of Spiderman, he stands as a powerful contrast, has an underground base with tech under his house, is in this best state in his life, and is in the ideal age for his prime. Basically the whole thing was how RIPeter was better in every sense which is why they conclude with them saying how the purpose of RIPeter was to make Peter B feel inadequate.
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Although his physical shape definitely needs improvement, he shows very much in the first film that he's just as competent as ever. Just super jaded. I don't think the power difference between the time spent in ITSV and getting back on his feat is enough to warrant a significant power difference, if theres any at all
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That assumes too much and ignores the context from the movie itself. Peter B is as effective as he is because he's been Spider-Man for way too long. By comparing their lives, he more inadequate, yes. But that doesn't account for their capabilities as Spider-Man
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I never got that impression from the movie; the context we're given is that he hit a peak, much like the Peter we see, then it all goes downhill, then the movie happens. Peter B is an effective fighter, but even director Bob Persichetti noted that he's in his prime and mid-twenties. Given that he's at his top physical and mental state, while the director notes him as the prime spidermen, it isn't hard to see him as the less capable one.
Not too sure. He's competent, but there's nothing that suggests he's the same, nevertheless better than RIPeter. Especially when you consider the opening scene implies he's fought Doc Ock before and came on top. Meanwhile, Peter B notes he's losing the fight and actually would've lost the chip if not for Gwen. In terms of ITSV where his physical and mental state is basically back in order, combined with his experience, I can definitely see that being his prime.
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And Gwen's page is up! Big thanks to @Kyleb79 for doing most of the work.
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Spider-Woman (Spider-Verse)
Gwen Stacy, known for her alias as Spider-Woman was once a normal teenager who became friends with her universes Peter Parker. She was at some point bitten by a radioactive spider and uses said responsibility as a crime fighter bent on holding up what's right. Unfortunately, Gwen was incapable...
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The goated Spider-Woman is hereAnd Gwen's page is up! Big thanks to @Kyleb79 for doing most of the work.
Spider-Woman (Spider-Verse)
Gwen Stacy, known for her alias as Spider-Woman was once a normal teenager who became friends with her universes Peter Parker. She was at some point bitten by a radioactive spider and uses said responsibility as a crime fighter bent on holding up what's right. Unfortunately, Gwen was incapable...
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