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Spaghetti Boss meets Blind Teleporter

That's straight up false, he rips off trishs hand and kidnaps trish, he rips off and switches his hand with the fortune tellers hand, he does his thing to narancia, he smashed mistas gun in erased time, he moves mistas body in erased time, etc

Not only has King Crimson landed and inflicted damaging blows on others while time had been erased, he also has outright interacted with others. Sometimes he doesnt, sometimes he does but him not doing it everytime doesnt mean he cant do it when he very well had.
 
Yes, because it happens in erased time. It didnt occur out of it.

Meaning he tore up the bars, picked up narancia, impaled him on it, moved the bars back in place then resumed time. He absolutely no way possible could have done even a fraction of that outside of erased time. He would of been seen and his position would of been revealed. Plus when time gets deleted, it was already finished when it resumed yet narancia was fine prior ergo it happened in time erase by virtue of happening in time erase.
 
The hand things are literally just Araki Forgot. The Bruno vs Diavolo fight was full of plot holes anyways (Like King Crimson letting you see your past self) and the Fortune Teller probably wasn't MFTL like King Crimson was, so Diavolo could have just swapped the hands with sheer speed. King Crimson is literally stated in the Manga itself to not be able to interact with things in erased time.
 
Araki didnt forget, King Crimson up to the very end of the manga interacted with things within erased time, Araki Forgot isnt an excuse when he didnt forgot.

The hands were already placed and swapped when the time erase ended yet werent when time hadnt been used, he could blitz the fortune teller of course, but that isnt what happened and besides, that scene is from Doppio's pov to an extent, he aint blitzing himself.

King Crimson was never stated to be unable to interact with things in erased time, ive read through Part 5 dozens of times and even have it opened in another tab right now, that was never said. If you have a source id like to see it.
 
Huh? Are you talking about the blood going into people's eyes?

Well still, Diavolo using King Crimson to attack during erased time is still a heavily out of character mo...

>Sees that he's Bloodlusted

Diavolo does the DIO thing.
 
No im talking about the fact he destroyed an iron fence, picked up a character and impaled him on it within erased time, broke mistas gun while in erased time, moved mistas body while in erased time, moved spice girls body in erased time (seeing as thats how he was dodging the bullets and spamming time skip, just realized that), he also moves his belongings from that room in erased time and(only in the anime) cuts a flower in erased time.

I wouldnt say its out of character, only that sometimes he doesnt have enough time to land a killing blow or when he doesnt think its needed he doesnt like with abach or bruno (who he was talking to so kinda couldnt erase time).

If you actually count up the times that he attacks or interacts within erased time and those that he doesnt, the former outnumber the latter.
 
Diavolo can definately interact with inanimate objects in erased time. However, this dosn't mean he can do the same with people. His Time Erasure, by his own words, erases time for everyone but himself. As for the body moving, they could have simply moved on their own. Not to mention, Mista and Spice Girl wouldn't have their time erased since King Crimson was techincally their stand at the time, as shown when punching Spice Girl caused the damage to reflect to King Crimson.

Also, about the iron fence thing, do you mean Orange Boy?
 
He literally does, he cuts off trsh's hand and picks her up and kidnaps her, fortune teller hand scene, he moves mistas body and bruno explicitly states oh shit he moved mistas body while in erased time meaning, he moved mista's body, yeah he does state that (which has absolutely no effect on him being able to interact with things, inanimate objects have their time erased too but he can interact with those fine) and thats wrong, King Crimson was possesing them yeah, but Trish and Spicegirl were effected by time erase the numerous times prior to him puppeting spice girl such as the time mista had his gun broke, narancia dying, the time mista had his body moved intially (trish being explicitly unaware that mista was moved and intially thinking mista was possessed, not her) thus in order to move and dodge the bullets within erased time, he would of had to puppet spicegirl as well.

And yes thats what im talking about, all of which happened within time erased as King Crimson never actually showed himself out of it prior to punching Giorno's arm off.
 
Of course it isnt, the act of time erase is simple, its clear cut and epitaph is easy to understand on top of that but the underlying mechanics and what he can or can not do arent, you have to literally go through the entire part and make note of everything he ever did.
 
idk, i was just saying that King Crimson not being able to interact with targets when time erased is an awful misconception that has gone a bit to far in my opinion. It's not as bad as the hermit purple in part 4 finding kira thing though.
 
That's only half true, Josuke aint exactly smart, he likely didnt think of it at the time or what exactly the buton meant. By the time he handed it over to Jotaro theycouldve assumed that the culprit got rid of of the suit or had it being fixed (which is what Jotaro assumed). Fixing the button would of only gotten them to the place the suit was, not where Kira was.

Also if they lost track of the tiny button while chasing it through literally an entire town in circles to wherever Kira's clothes were then they'd be screwed, especially as they mot not have the stamina to chase a button for like 30km.

Of course that's the assumption they made and the last bit is just conjecture on why it would hypothetically be a bad idea, if Josuke did do that then they'd of found him easy, Kira was literally walking by the street when he handed Jotaro the button but that's an unfair thing to hold them accounted for when they thought his ass was long gone.
 
To be fair he didnt want to wait patiently because he didnt want Bruno coming anywhere near him or to see him or give a chance to (although if just took Trish and didnt bisect her hand, Bruno probably wouldnt of chased him with the intent to save trish, then again he still might have in order to put the brooch on him so he still wouldve seen Diavolo trying to kill trish or Diavolo wouldve tried to kill him due to the brooch pls he did the hand cutting to knock trish out so trish wouldnt of seen him). Although if he knew how to pull out, this wouldnt of been an issue to begin with. Then again he got with Trish's mom before his evil and secretive tendencies took over.

Also King Crimson throws a civilian in erased time as well.
 
I'm still tempted to call King Crimson attacking things in erased time an inconsistency, but it might be worth making a thread to see what the general consensus is. Especially considering this thread is getting kind of derailed.
 
How is it an inconsistency? It happens in his first appearnace and happens off and on till the very end of the part with a few here and there sprinkled throughout. And it's never stated that he cant interact with things. Meaning it's only an inconsistency if you arbitrarily assume he cant do something hat isnt stated and he straight up does, a lot.

>Make a thread.

I did, a month ago, literally nobody commented on it but youre right on the fact it is derailing.
 
Personally voting for diavolo due to him being bloodlusted and the fact shimazaki doesnt take his enemies seriously
 
Y'know what... Due to Shimazaki's CIS, Diavolo's willingness to use his hax and go for the kill; I have to vote for the spaghetti boss.
 
I get emailed, about this thread like once a week. I don't know why, but it do.
 
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