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As far as I understand it, the argument for Yhwach possessing the Schrifts of all the Sternritter is due to the idea that, when he takes back their power, he takes their abilities as well and allows him to use him as he desires, a la Aaroniero.
Except, the problem is we never see this done at any point in the series proper. At most, knowledge, skill, talents (not abilities) and power are engraved on Yhwach's Soul Fragments and go to him when the Sternritter dies. He's always used only his own abilities in the manga, none of the abilities of Quincy whose Schrifts he's reclaimed, so it seems to be speculation that he'd have their abilities.
Then there is the Soul King, based on what info we know from "Can't Fear Your Own World". Not only does his specific bio give him tabs for having the Sternritter's abilities, but also the abilities of all Fullbringers because it is fragments of the Soul King that are responsible for awakening Fullbring in Humans. Again, this seems to be based on speculation, taking a statement about the origin of Fullbring powers and extrapolating it beyond what was initially stated. In his case, especially, it doesn't seem to make sense, since the Soul King lived thousands of years at a minimum before any Sternritter or Fullbringer, whose powers he's given in those two tabs, ever existed.
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YHWACH
"All the knowledge they acquired, all the abilities they gained through their efforts, all the talents that blossomed while they were recovering, Became engraved on the soul fragments imparted to them by the babe"
" As their wounds slowly healed, the knowledge they had gained, the abilities they had learned through great effort, the skills they had awakened within themselves... // ...were all imprinted upon the fragments of the baby’s soul that they had received"
These are two separate translations from Mangahelpers, but the full quote is about how knowledge, abilities, and skills/talents engraved upon the soul fragment. As stated previously Yhwach's never demonstrated any sign or evidence that he possesses the abilities of the Sternritter whose Schrifts came back to him after they died.
Later on, in Chapter 565, this was said about Yhwach's ability "to give and take":
Haschwalth: In the earlier battle, His Majesty has already... // ...scattered fragments of his own soul across all of Seireitei. // This battle is a battle for His Majesty. // Not only we of the Sternritter... // ...but also any Shinigami who have come into contact with His Majesty’s soul... // ...will give up their own souls as offerings to His Majesty upon their deaths.
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Haschwalth: No matter who perishes in this battle... // It will only serve to bolster His Majesty’s strength... // ...and to extend His Majesty’s life. /To His Majesty, battle is life itself. / If he does not continue to absorb souls... // Eventually, he will return... // ...to the body he once had, unable to see, to hear, or even to move.
The main purpose of Yhwach's ability is to grow his strength, extend his life, and keep his body functional. The Auswahlen operates similarly, taking life and power and redistributing it, either to Yhwach himself or to other Quincy. If there was direct evidence (not one line of dialogue extrapolated towards a certain meaning) of Yhwach's soul fragments taking special abilities - that every Schrift he took back gave him the corresponding ability - I would think Kubo would have been more clear about this, or even demonstrated it at some point.
Except, he didn't. Instead, he would place emphasis on power, whenever the subject of this aspect of Yhwach's abilities comes up.
SOUL KING
On the subject of the Soul King's tab, Can't Fear Your Own World gives evidence that the abilities Fullbringers possess aren't ones the Soul King himself would have possessed. Rather, abilities they possesses which the fragments of the Soul King allowed to awaken:
Why is the fullbringer targeted by the hollow at the foetal stage?
GINJÔ had predicted that the reason had to be because of something that was mixed into the soul from before it was born. Although it was not clear what kind of influence this fragment of the Soul King would have, GINJÔ had assumed that just like Mimihagi-sama had taken possession of a soul reaper, if this fragment were to be fused with human beings, then it would bring about an effect similar to that of the hôgyoku.
A device that manifests the desires of those around it, something that could change the world.
The hôgyoku.
It would not be surprising if the fragment of the Soul King acts as its substitute and activates fullbring that can turn attachment into an ability.
As a refresher, the Hogyoku's specific power is limited by the target's potential to fulfil their desires. In the same vein, the Soul King fragments most likely bears the same influence, awakening the potential of Fullbring within Humans and allowing them to manifest a special ability through an object they have a close attachment to. As the progenitor of the power, the Soul King most likely possesses matter manipulation through manipulating the "souls within matter" (an extent of which was demonstrated by Aura Michibane in "Can't Fear Your Own World").
Presuming the Soul King has the exact abilities of each Fullbringer in the series, however, is stretching the relationship between them.
Except, the problem is we never see this done at any point in the series proper. At most, knowledge, skill, talents (not abilities) and power are engraved on Yhwach's Soul Fragments and go to him when the Sternritter dies. He's always used only his own abilities in the manga, none of the abilities of Quincy whose Schrifts he's reclaimed, so it seems to be speculation that he'd have their abilities.
Then there is the Soul King, based on what info we know from "Can't Fear Your Own World". Not only does his specific bio give him tabs for having the Sternritter's abilities, but also the abilities of all Fullbringers because it is fragments of the Soul King that are responsible for awakening Fullbring in Humans. Again, this seems to be based on speculation, taking a statement about the origin of Fullbring powers and extrapolating it beyond what was initially stated. In his case, especially, it doesn't seem to make sense, since the Soul King lived thousands of years at a minimum before any Sternritter or Fullbringer, whose powers he's given in those two tabs, ever existed.
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YHWACH
"All the knowledge they acquired, all the abilities they gained through their efforts, all the talents that blossomed while they were recovering, Became engraved on the soul fragments imparted to them by the babe"
" As their wounds slowly healed, the knowledge they had gained, the abilities they had learned through great effort, the skills they had awakened within themselves... // ...were all imprinted upon the fragments of the baby’s soul that they had received"
These are two separate translations from Mangahelpers, but the full quote is about how knowledge, abilities, and skills/talents engraved upon the soul fragment. As stated previously Yhwach's never demonstrated any sign or evidence that he possesses the abilities of the Sternritter whose Schrifts came back to him after they died.
Later on, in Chapter 565, this was said about Yhwach's ability "to give and take":
Haschwalth: In the earlier battle, His Majesty has already... // ...scattered fragments of his own soul across all of Seireitei. // This battle is a battle for His Majesty. // Not only we of the Sternritter... // ...but also any Shinigami who have come into contact with His Majesty’s soul... // ...will give up their own souls as offerings to His Majesty upon their deaths.
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Haschwalth: No matter who perishes in this battle... // It will only serve to bolster His Majesty’s strength... // ...and to extend His Majesty’s life. /To His Majesty, battle is life itself. / If he does not continue to absorb souls... // Eventually, he will return... // ...to the body he once had, unable to see, to hear, or even to move.
The main purpose of Yhwach's ability is to grow his strength, extend his life, and keep his body functional. The Auswahlen operates similarly, taking life and power and redistributing it, either to Yhwach himself or to other Quincy. If there was direct evidence (not one line of dialogue extrapolated towards a certain meaning) of Yhwach's soul fragments taking special abilities - that every Schrift he took back gave him the corresponding ability - I would think Kubo would have been more clear about this, or even demonstrated it at some point.
Except, he didn't. Instead, he would place emphasis on power, whenever the subject of this aspect of Yhwach's abilities comes up.
SOUL KING
On the subject of the Soul King's tab, Can't Fear Your Own World gives evidence that the abilities Fullbringers possess aren't ones the Soul King himself would have possessed. Rather, abilities they possesses which the fragments of the Soul King allowed to awaken:
Why is the fullbringer targeted by the hollow at the foetal stage?
GINJÔ had predicted that the reason had to be because of something that was mixed into the soul from before it was born. Although it was not clear what kind of influence this fragment of the Soul King would have, GINJÔ had assumed that just like Mimihagi-sama had taken possession of a soul reaper, if this fragment were to be fused with human beings, then it would bring about an effect similar to that of the hôgyoku.
A device that manifests the desires of those around it, something that could change the world.
The hôgyoku.
It would not be surprising if the fragment of the Soul King acts as its substitute and activates fullbring that can turn attachment into an ability.
As a refresher, the Hogyoku's specific power is limited by the target's potential to fulfil their desires. In the same vein, the Soul King fragments most likely bears the same influence, awakening the potential of Fullbring within Humans and allowing them to manifest a special ability through an object they have a close attachment to. As the progenitor of the power, the Soul King most likely possesses matter manipulation through manipulating the "souls within matter" (an extent of which was demonstrated by Aura Michibane in "Can't Fear Your Own World").
Presuming the Soul King has the exact abilities of each Fullbringer in the series, however, is stretching the relationship between them.
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