Sonic (Modern) vs Anos Voldigoad /0-0-0/

[TauanVictor]

It seems that Sonic can't resist the Sleep Hax passive of Anos. Anos stomped Archie Sonic by the same factor afaik.

 

[Pekarchan]

Oh what the fuc-
Anos Voldigoad have low 1-C and 2-A match ups, this guy have loot nerf lol

just wait for official LN translate releases, this profile actual only for volume 4 from 13 released

 

[KingNanaya]

Eh, no, Venuz manipulating Order which is both Law and CM1 hax so Sonic need to resist both, resist one isn't gonna make him safe from Venuz

didn't those get removed?

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

didn't those get removed?

Not for venuz

 

[Georredannea15]

Eh, no, Venuz manipulating Order which is both Law and CM1 hax so Sonic need to resist both, resist one isn't gonna make him safe from Venuz

Dude, this thread is dead.

Btw someone who resists type 1 CM hax, can also resists law hax by default because the concept is the most basic abstraction of law and all other things in existence and encompasses them all. Also Type 4 acausality makes you resistant to causality manipulation and law hax.

 

[Vietthai96]

Btw someone who resists type 1 CM hax, can also resists law hax by default because the concept is the most basic abstraction of law and all other things in existence and encompasses them all. Also Type 4 acausality makes you resistant to causality manipulation and law hax.

No way, lol, resist CM hax do not allow you to resist other haxes, even if they are somewhat abstract in nature, that NLF claim. Also Acausality 4 by default do not grant resistance to law hax, change the standard for that to work bro lol

 

[Georredannea15]

No way, lol, resist CM hax do not allow you to resist other haxes, even if they are somewhat abstract in nature, that NLF claim. Also Acausality 4 by default do not grant resistance to law hax, change the standard for that to work bro lol

Concepts are the most basic abstractions of all nature and existence, so someone who resists the conceptual trick can also resist things like the law trick, the causality trick, and EE because concepts are the most basic form of such things on the plane of existence and encompass them all.

Anyway, I didn't expect you to understand that.

"Also, if you look at the Acausality page, laws and causality are assumed to be almost identical, so being beyond any law means you are also beyond causality, and being beyond causality means you are also beyond laws"

Just look at the page

 

[Vietthai96]

Concepts are the most basic abstractions of all nature and existence, so someone who resists the conceptual trick can also resist things like the law trick, the causality trick, and EE because concepts are the most basic form of such things on the plane of existence and encompass them all.

Anyway, I didn't expect you to understand that.

"Also, if you look at the Acausality page, laws and causality are assumed to be almost identical, so being beyond any law means you are also beyond causality, and being beyond causality means you are also beyond laws"

Just look at the page

1. Another NLF, by your logic, resist CM should get you resistance to all other haxes on the wiki, that bullshit

2. Beyond causality isn't mean you beyond all kind of law, that another NLF bullshit and sematically nitpicking on the description of the page, by default, Acausality 4 grant you resistance to normal Fare, Causality, Probability and Precognition hax

 

[Vietthai96]

Concepts are the most basic abstractions of all nature and existence, so someone who resists the conceptual trick can also resist things like the law trick, the causality trick, and EE because concepts are the most basic form of such things on the plane of existence and encompass them all.

Anyway, I didn't expect you to understand that.

"Also, if you look at the Acausality page, laws and causality are assumed to be almost identical, so being beyond any law means you are also beyond causality, and being beyond causality means you are also beyond laws"

Just look at the page

1. Another NLF, by your logic, resist CM should get you resistance to all other haxes on the wiki, that bullshit

2. Beyond causality isn't mean you beyond all kind of law, that another NLF bullshit and sematically nitpicking on the description of the page, by default, Acausality 4 grant you resistance to normal Fare, Causality, Probability and Precognition hax

 

[Georredannea15]

1. Another NLF, by your logic, resist CM should get you resistance to all other haxes on the wiki, that bullshit

2. Beyond causality isn't mean you beyond all kind of law, that another NLF bullshit and sematically nitpicking on the description of the page, by default, Acausality 4 grant you resistance to normal Fare, Causality, Probability and Precognition hax

I said that resisting CM is also resisting the laws, causality and existence found in the verse, and if you skim through a few vs threads you will see that this is assumed to be the case.

If there is a concept in a verse, that concept "includes the laws and causalities in this verse by default," you are not asked for an extra context because this is the context of the concept.

Likewise, someone who resists CM also resists EE, of course these are default things, if EE is conceptual, it works just like a CM, or if the laws or causalities can affects concepts in the verse, this law manip and causality manip works just like a CM.

Beings that are independent of causality are also indepented by laws, yes, they are almost the same things. It's already written on the page, so a character who is beyond laws is assumed to be beyond causalities on the same level. If you look at the page you will assume that type 4 acausality is like this.

 

[Orioreeem]

I said that resisting CM is also resisting the laws, causality and existence found in the verse, and if you skim through a few vs threads you will see that this is assumed to be the case.

Link them