Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

[The_Unknown_Warrior1]

I find it pretty funny that Shadow Generations has three city based stages in it, much like Sonic Generations having three city stages as well. Those being Sunset Heights, Radical Highway, and the upcoming Tokyo stage based off the upcoming Sonic 3 movie.

I don't get why SEGA has such an odd obsession with city stages in games celebrating the past and future, but they do. Honestly? I would've preferred if Black Comet had been the last stage instead of Radical Highway, though it's not a massive dealbreaker.

 

[Issen_Mk_III]

Advance 3 Sonic already scales to 4-A, no?

Yeah,but singular emeralds are currently Low 4-C,you could possibly get them higher from Eggman's Chaos Control in Advance 3,apparently(?).

 

[Theuser789]

I find it pretty funny that Shadow Generations has three city based stages in it, much like Sonic Generations having three city stages as well. Those being Sunset Heights, Radical Highway, and the upcoming Tokyo stage based off the upcoming Sonic 3 movie.

I don't get why SEGA has such an odd obsession with city stages in games celebrating the past and future, but they do. Honestly? I would've preferred if Black Comet had been the last stage instead of Radical Highway, though it's not a massive dealbreaker.

I really don't understand why Black Doom likes Radical Highway so much.

 

[Executor_N0]

I really don't understand why Black Doom likes Radical Highway so much.

It has Radical in the name, how can he no't like it?

 

[The_Unknown_Warrior1]

I really don't understand why Black Doom likes Radical Highway so much.

I mean I guess it makes sense thematically wise, it was the stage where Shadow was first playable and essentially Shadow's Green Hill. But you know what would've been cool? Imagine if the first act of the final stage was Radical Highway, but the second act turns into Black Comet due to Black Doom's ever increasing power.

 

[JJSliderman]

Just wondering, what is the max finite speed for games? I thought it was like quintillions or sextillions give or take

 

[Oreo166]

It's shown on screen during each island transition. For example:

Ah, makes sense. After all, the ppl that most likely made them were also the same ones who made the Emeralds.

 

[GlaceonGamez471]

Just wondering, what is the max finite speed for games? I thought it was like quintillions or sextillions give or take

Before Infinite speed we were sitting at sextillions after multipliers

 

[Omegabronic]

Interesting. Wouldn't that nebula during Nonaggression be part of the pocket dimension? Wouldn't that make a singular emerald like,4-B/4-A or something?

Nonagression is after the Master Emerald restores the world back to normal

 

[Ghengiroo115]

I really don't understand why Black Doom likes Radical Highway so much.

He just thinks Radical Highway is so cool.

In all seriousness, the common theory I see floating about for the plot reason is that Black Doom is trying to remind Shadow of when his rage at humanity was at his peak. I imagine the meta reason was just that they wanted to bring back Shadow’s Green Hill, but since they were starting out with the ARK they decided to make Radical Highway Doom’s calling card and the final stage instead.

 

[Fireld]

Shadow's Green Hill Is Radical Highway

WESTOPOLISbros...

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

WESTOPOLISbros...

Westopolis ain't as radical

 

[ShakeResounding]

I don’t think so.

I specifically got layered intangibility vis Metal in Rise of the Wisps accepted in a CRT. It might be on the Item Box Page in the Wisp section, but I KNOW I got it accepted and I SWEAR I remember typing it into a page

 

[BlastX]

Nonagression is after the Master Emerald restores the world back to normal

No, in the game right after he defeats the final boss Sonic chases Eggman and Gemerl knocks the emeralds out of him, goes Ultimate, knocks Eggman into Sonic and flies off, Sonic gets the emeralds and goes super to chase him with Eggman hot in their trail, at no point does the ME change the world back to normal (in fact the sky stays the same) it's only when Sonic gets knocked unconscious after the true final boss that the world changed back to normal.

 

[Theuser789]

I specifically got layered intangibility vis Metal in Rise of the Wisps accepted in a CRT. It might be on the Item Box Page in the Wisp section, but I KNOW I got it accepted and I SWEAR I remember typing it into a page

For some reason the item box page only has 4 Wisps powers. Indigo Asteroid, Cyan Laser, Violet Void and Yellow Drill, and its only really the TSR versions. Jade is in the page but only in the notable attacks and techniques.

 

[Oreo166]

Before Infinite speed we were sitting at sextillions after multipliers

Speaking of speed, where’s it shown that the Spin Dash is a 4x increase again?

 

[ShakeResounding]

Sonic Question Time: With Sonic x Shadow Generations giving Shadow a secondary story to the original, it gave me an idea. If you were to remaster/remake an old Sonic game in the "Sonic X" format, which would you choose?

For me, I would choose Sonic x NiGHTS Shuffle. Hear me out.

• Sonic Shuffle has always been an obscure title in the franchise, a remaster allows it some time in the spotlight with improved graphics and additional features
  • Additionally, they can make it an online multiplayer party game for longer-lasting replayability.
• The remaster comes with an entirely new campaign, tying the franchises together by having a story revolving around Void attempt to wreak havoc across Nightopia that loosely takes place during and prior to the end of Sonic Shuffle.
  • NiGHTS is helpless for most of the journey against Void himself due to their very nature as a dream being, making it incredibly dangerous to even approach. Instead, NiGHTS attempts to contain the decay and destroy underlings spawned from Void.
  • When Void's presence becomes too detrimental to Nightopia, NiGHTS disregards their own safety and confronts him. They gain a temporary amp of his own, becoming empowered by those of the Waking World who realize Nightopia is in danger and dream for a savior. This allows him to defeat and banish Void from Nightopia, back to Maginaryworld so he can eventually merge with Lumina.

That's my pitch!

 

[ShakeResounding]

For some reason the item box page only has 4 Wisps powers. Indigo Asteroid, Cyan Laser, Violet Void and Yellow Drill, and its only really the TSR versions. Jade is in the page but only in the notable attacks and techniques.

Found it!

Proof that layered intagibility was already accepted. In the OP of a thread from years back.

 

[Theuser789]

Found it!

Proof that layered intagibility was already accepted. In the OP of a thread from years back.

Well, I don't think we actually specified that in any of the pages (And obviously the item stealing properties are missing). I guess since that's already accepted we can just edit it in the pages.

 

[ShakeResounding]

Issue: I'm 98% certain I already edited it into the pages beforehand, and this was actually brought up before a 2nd time so I KNOW I put it into a page.

 

[Theuser789]

Issue: I'm 98% certain I already edited it into the pages beforehand, and this was actually brought up before a 2nd time so I KNOW I put it into a page.

Well, it's not on Sonic's page, nor the item box page, nor the Wisp page, so...

 

[ShrekAnakin]

Sonic Question Time: With Sonic x Shadow Generations giving Shadow a secondary story to the original, it gave me an idea. If you were to remaster an old Sonic game in the "Sonic X" format, which would you choose?

For me, I would choose Sonic x NiGHTS Shuffle. Hear me out.

• Sonic Shuffle has always been an obscure title in the franchise, a remaster allows it some time in the spotlight with improved graphics and additional features
  • Additionally, they can make it an online multiplayer party game for longer-lasting replayability.
• The remaster comes with an entirely new campaign, tying the franchises together by having a story revolving around Void attempt to wreak havoc across Nightopia that loosely takes place during and prior to the end of Sonic Shuffle.
  • NiGHTS is helpless for most of the journey against Void himself due to their very nature as a dream being, making it incredibly dangerous to even approach. Instead, NiGHTS attempts to contain the decay and destroy underlings spawned from Void.
  • When Void's presence becomes too detrimental to Nightopia, NiGHTS disregards their own safety and confronts him. They gain a temporary amp of his own, becoming empowered by those of the Waking World who realize Nightopia is in danger and dream for a savior. This allows him to defeat and banish Void from Nightopia, back to Maginaryworld so he can eventually merge with Lumina.

That's my pitch!

The best way to do this is via a Remake given the dated hardware of Shuffle. Can do wonders to see it with higher resolution graphics. However yeah, enjoy seeing that Nights respect here.

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

Sonic Question Time: With Sonic x Shadow Generations giving Shadow a secondary story to the original, it gave me an idea. If you were to remaster an old Sonic game in the "Sonic X" format, which would you choose?

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Pretty obvious one but an Unleashed remake where you get to play from both Shadow's and Knuckles perspective.

*Shadow's story:
•Daytime stages for Shadow to boost through with assist's from Omega and Rouge to take out Badniks.
•Showing G.U.N using their vast resources to keep global order and prevent unnecessary casualties during the world break.
•Potentially having mutated Dark Gaia terrors that have possessed remnant Black Arms that were in hiding underground as a plot point to occupy team Dark while also tying into SXS that Black Doom survived Shadow 05.

*Knuckles story:
•Nightime stages for Knuckles to brawl through while repelling hoards of terrors from Angel Island with help from the Chaotix who G.U.N hired to keep tabs on Angel Island after the world break.
•Showing the Master Emerald maintaining the world's atmosphere and thus surface life making it even more important to protect.
•Knuckles being fully aware of Light and Dark Gaia (borrowing a couple story beats from Archie), perhaps have the Chaotix try to hunt down Light Gaia on Knux's behalf only to narrowly miss him each time while hearing rumours of a horrible monster (which we know is Sonic the werehog).

Everything ties together with Super Sonic and Gaia Colossus fighting Perfect Dark Gaia as per usual but with Team Dark, G.U.N, Team Chaotix and Knuckles all being responsible for keeping worldwide collateral damage to a minimum.

 

[ShakeResounding]

Pretty obvious one but an Unleashed remake where you get to play from both Shadow's and Knuckles perspective.

Sonic X Knuckles Unleashed? KINOOOOOO! I love your ideas of ways to refresh a familiar story. And your idea of the Master Emerald helping maintain the natural order is just BRILLIANT!

 

[ShakeResounding]

Well, it's not on Sonic's page, nor the item box page, nor the Wisp page, so...

Aha! Further proof, two imgur links dedicated to it.

I'm almost certain we can simply edit the Wisp page while using the CRT I linked for the justification link. For proof this was an accepted change.

 

[Theuser789]

Aha! Further proof, two imgur links dedicated to it.

I'm almost certain we can simply edit the Wisp page while using the CRT I linked for the justification link. For proof this was an accepted change.

The last one is about Crimson Eagle. But yeah, we must've just forgotten to fully add it in.

Sonic Question Time: With Sonic x Shadow Generations giving Shadow a secondary story to the original, it gave me an idea. If you were to remaster/remake an old Sonic game in the "Sonic X" format, which would you choose?

For me, I would choose Sonic x NiGHTS Shuffle. Hear me out.

• Sonic Shuffle has always been an obscure title in the franchise, a remaster allows it some time in the spotlight with improved graphics and additional features
  • Additionally, they can make it an online multiplayer party game for longer-lasting replayability.
• The remaster comes with an entirely new campaign, tying the franchises together by having a story revolving around Void attempt to wreak havoc across Nightopia that loosely takes place during and prior to the end of Sonic Shuffle.
  • NiGHTS is helpless for most of the journey against Void himself due to their very nature as a dream being, making it incredibly dangerous to even approach. Instead, NiGHTS attempts to contain the decay and destroy underlings spawned from Void.
  • When Void's presence becomes too detrimental to Nightopia, NiGHTS disregards their own safety and confronts him. They gain a temporary amp of his own, becoming empowered by those of the Waking World who realize Nightopia is in danger and dream for a savior. This allows him to defeat and banish Void from Nightopia, back to Maginaryworld so he can eventually merge with Lumina.

That's my pitch!

Sonic x Silver FORCES (Showing how the war against Eggman played out).

 

[ShakeResounding]

The last one is about Crimson Eagle. But yeah, we must've just forgotten to fully add it in.

Oops lol. Wrong link

Sonic x Silver FORCES (Showing how the war against Eggman played out).

Ngl that would be dope, especially since there doesn't need to be concerns about not making Silver OP. Because none of it matters in the face of the Phantom Ruby

 

[ShrekAnakin]

Pretty obvious one but an Unleashed remake where you get to play from both Shadow's and Knuckles perspective.

*Shadow's story:
•Daytime stages for Shadow to boost through with assist's from Omega and Rouge to take out Badniks.
•Showing G.U.N using their vast resources to keep global order and prevent unnecessary casualties during the world break.
•Potentially having mutated Dark Gaia terrors that have possessed remnant Black Arms that were in hiding underground as a plot point to occupy team Dark while also tying into SXS that Black Doom survived Shadow 05.

*Knuckles story:
•Nightime stages for Knuckles to brawl through while repelling hoards of terrors from Angel Island with help from the Chaotix who G.U.N hired to keep tabs on Angel Island after the world break.
•Showing the Master Emerald maintaining the world's atmosphere and thus surface life making it even more important to protect.
•Knuckles being fully aware of Light and Dark Gaia (borrowing a couple story beats from Archie), perhaps have the Chaotix try to hunt down Light Gaia on Knux's behalf only to narrowly miss him each time while hearing rumours of a horrible monster (which we know is Sonic the werehog).

Everything ties together with Super Sonic and Gaia Colossus fighting Perfect Dark Gaia as per usual but with Team Dark, G.U.N, Team Chaotix and Knuckles all being responsible for keeping worldwide collateral damage to a minimum.

Three were rumors of both being in Unleashed originally, so I think it's a wonderful idea.

 

[MysticMania]

Knuckles gets sucked into a black hole. It might not be Low-Multiversal base sonic, but it is funny.
I figured this could be cool to share since Bowser VS Eggman is in discussion lately.

 

[Oreo166]

Since Shadow has been part of this discussion lately, what do you guys think of his Death Battle episode vs Ryuko?

 

[Dust_Collector]

Since Shadow has been part of this discussion lately, what do you guys think of his Death Battle episode vs Ryuko?

It was pretty good, but tbh the best part to me wasn't even part of the episode it was that the team really wanted Ryuko to win since a lot of them didn't like Shadow that much compared to other Sonic characters and they were trying to find any way to have her win until they realised she has no chance and they were kinda bummed out about it.

 

[MysticMania]

I have never heard of that.
Where was this revealed?

 

[Remus1998]

After watching some Sonic Shuffle gameplay, it seems that the Forcejewels only apply to themselves

 

[Theuser789]

Knuckles gets sucked into a black hole. It might not be Low-Multiversal base sonic, but it is funny.
I figured this could be cool to share since Bowser VS Eggman is in discussion lately.

Sorry but only Mario characters can get Black Hole feats in Death Battle that's the law.

Since Shadow has been part of this discussion lately, what do you guys think of his Death Battle episode vs Ryuko?

Pity win so their fans can say they don't hate Game Sonic characters because they have some wins.

 

[Dust_Collector]

I have never heard of that.
Where was this revealed?

It was one of their DB Casts, never watched them myself but people were bringing it up because of how funny it was in the DB general discussion thread after the episode aired. I think it was brought up as an argument that they only did the episode to give Shadow a pity win because DB are somehow bias against Sonic (Because somehow literally everyone on the planet is apparently) but apparently willing to give the series a free win.

 

[Theuser789]

People still doubt Death Battle is biased even after Sun Disk? Lmao.

 

[Dust_Collector]

Wouldn't say bias but kinda stupid. Like they didn't make Bardock lose for any bias against Dragon Ball or whatever they just got super weird and dumb with how they calculated the sundisk.

 

[Theuser789]

People will say "powerscaling is subjective" but deny subjective bias in their reasonings and conclusions and act as if they're completely objective right afterwards, lol. Honestly if you still think Death Battle isn't biased at all then you're just extremely naive at this point.

 

[Remus1998]

People will say "powerscaling is subjective" but deny subjective bias in their reasonings and conclusions and act as if they're completely objective right afterwards, lol. Honestly if you still think Death Battle isn't biased at all then you're just extremely naive at this point.

Death Battle may not hate Dragon Ball but they sure as hell hate Saiyans

 

[Oreo166]

It was pretty good, but tbh the best part to me wasn't even part of the episode it was that the team really wanted Ryuko to win since a lot of them didn't like Shadow that much compared to other Sonic characters and they were trying to find any way to have her win until they realised she has no chance and they were kinda bummed out about it.