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Eggman is a passive NPC.
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Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers
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MysticMania
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Because stealing is bad, and Eggman knows this. How could a thief run an empire after all? He must uphold manners.
ShakeResounding
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Feminists can do no wrong
MysticMania
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maybe starline was right
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It would be funny if Overlord wins again with all the copied data, which would also make Metal vs Zero look even more like shit than it already does.
(Nah,he'll get taken out by a ninji)
(Nah,he'll get taken out by a ninji)
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Both will JOB to Shin Mazinger Zero, trust.
Ghengiroo115
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Feminist vs Incel
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He can just......use a robot to pilot it for him lol
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I think the main issue with Bowser stealing stuff is
1) After that doesn't work, I don't see Bowser or Kamek trying again because they have no reason to assume their powers would suddenly become viable (assuming you ignore how Eggman can likely make his Hammerspace defense perpetual), so it becomes functionally irrelevant outside of the fact it creates the opportunity for Metal to the copy Bowser's whole powerset.
2) Bowser almost never leads with hammerspace. If he was to lead with any hax, it would be transmutation. Further, Bowser is a much more physical enemy. While Bowser HAS started fights with hax before, his COMMON preference is using his physical might and flame breath, and THEN resorting to all kinds of magic when that fails. (Of which it fails often.)
3) Eggman can resist it himself via the Forcejewels, something consistently overlooked, meaning he should be fine at LEAST the first few times if you ignore how Egghead could make it perpetual.
4) Eggman can steal back via a variety of ways.
5) As of Sonic Forces: Speed Battle, Metal's steal gives him a superior version of what he takes. Meaning if Bowser stole the Phantom Ruby and then Eggman stole it back, Eggman would be BETTER than battle start. Furthermore, if Metal steals from Bowser, HIS Star Rod would be superior.
6) Eggman can much more easily utilize the stuff he steals from Bowser (most of it any schmuck can use and they just grant wishes, and even ignoring that Eggman can simply use them as batteries or harness their energy for his ALREADY cosmic machines) than Bowser can from Eggman (The Phantom Ruby and Chaos Emeralds have specific requirements built in and require experience to draw out their powers to the fullest).
Conversely, while Bowser ALSO resists having his Hammerspace stolen from, I don't think he can resist stuff being outright deleted, or stuff being implanted on him, meaning Eggman would probably have advantage (for all the good it would do, as not many of Eggman's planted items could do in Bowser.) Essentially, it's irrelevant to the fight outside of furthering strategies.
1) After that doesn't work, I don't see Bowser or Kamek trying again because they have no reason to assume their powers would suddenly become viable (assuming you ignore how Eggman can likely make his Hammerspace defense perpetual), so it becomes functionally irrelevant outside of the fact it creates the opportunity for Metal to the copy Bowser's whole powerset.
2) Bowser almost never leads with hammerspace. If he was to lead with any hax, it would be transmutation. Further, Bowser is a much more physical enemy. While Bowser HAS started fights with hax before, his COMMON preference is using his physical might and flame breath, and THEN resorting to all kinds of magic when that fails. (Of which it fails often.)
3) Eggman can resist it himself via the Forcejewels, something consistently overlooked, meaning he should be fine at LEAST the first few times if you ignore how Egghead could make it perpetual.
4) Eggman can steal back via a variety of ways.
5) As of Sonic Forces: Speed Battle, Metal's steal gives him a superior version of what he takes. Meaning if Bowser stole the Phantom Ruby and then Eggman stole it back, Eggman would be BETTER than battle start. Furthermore, if Metal steals from Bowser, HIS Star Rod would be superior.
6) Eggman can much more easily utilize the stuff he steals from Bowser (most of it any schmuck can use and they just grant wishes, and even ignoring that Eggman can simply use them as batteries or harness their energy for his ALREADY cosmic machines) than Bowser can from Eggman (The Phantom Ruby and Chaos Emeralds have specific requirements built in and require experience to draw out their powers to the fullest).
Conversely, while Bowser ALSO resists having his Hammerspace stolen from, I don't think he can resist stuff being outright deleted, or stuff being implanted on him, meaning Eggman would probably have advantage (for all the good it would do, as not many of Eggman's planted items could do in Bowser.) Essentially, it's irrelevant to the fight outside of furthering strategies.
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(Black box: something something,Eggman doesn't scale to full power Super States/can't fully utilize the Chaos Emeralds)
Even though it takes multiple Super States at full power to defeat his highest tier mechs.
Even though it takes multiple Super States at full power to defeat his highest tier mechs.
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The Phantom Ruby should cover just about any shortcoming or prerequisite in that regard,but I don't think it's going down like that. Even then,you are correct,Egg Robos and Mecha Sonic are fully capable of piloting his mechs.
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I have no clue why you brought politics into this but I think I like you even more now.
Or his past self, as he's done literally that before with the Time Eater.
Eggman is incapable of stealing shit. The **** do you mean "Sonic Shuffle"? No one's ever played that. It's basically not canon/j
Eggman's hammerspace theft almost certainly works on those who hold Blockite, which makes it a layered anyway. I just need to find footage to prove it, which is really hard for an obscure game like Sonic Shuffle.
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If they haven't learned anything in the last 6 year's since MvS2,It's gonna be hilarious.
They might even double down on that episode,yeesh.
They might even double down on that episode,yeesh.
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i wonder if they will count Prime's "I eat universe shattering explosions for breakfast thank you very much" feat from Sonic and scale Eggman to it
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I am saying it, they will say Bowser's fodder is far stronger than Eggman, say Eggman can only fight back with his high-tier mechs, and those either get stolen or haxed by Bowser.
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Literally no way. At best they call it an outlier.
ShrekAnakin
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What if I told you, something interesting could be cooking...
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One of the manuals says Eggman is a feminist (due to mistranslation). It's a big meme given his character.
MysticMania
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Outer(lier) Sonic finally
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Oh right. Mistranslation though
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Did you know he has a PhD in women's studies?
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