Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

[Ghengiroo115]

What would it take for the possibility to become at least feasible.
Genuine question.

Obviously it ain’t up to me, but personally I imagine the only way it would even be feasible would be if:

1. The 2x speed amp for Chaos Emeralds was downgraded.
2. The series started consistently portraying the speed relationship between base forms and Super forms the same way Frontiers did, where the speed amp isn’t that significant.

I disagree with Triple Boost upscaling too. That wasn't Sonic's own speed. By that same logic, SA2 Sonic absolutely should have infinite speed from going faster than the time Illumina made him travel to the center of Maginary World.

Just take the statement literally and only consider moments where he physically runs (unless he runs in Shuffle, idk I never played it)

What 128× speed amp?

Chaos Emeralds being > Power cores. All seven together gives a 128x amp.

 

[Omegabronic]

I disagree with Triple Boost upscaling too. That wasn't Sonic's own speed. By that same logic, SA2 Sonic absolutely should have infinite speed from going faster than the time Illumina made him travel to the center of Maginary World.

What 128× speed amp?

1 emerald >>>>>>> Fake Emerald >> Power Cores

will be higher once i make a thread upscaling from another multiplier.........need to have the current projects finish first

 

[JJSliderman]

The eyes can do that?

Yes, they’re Solaris’ attacks which suck in the space-time intersection that the characters are in throughout the level and are part of Solaris’ plan to conclude the destruction of all of space time.

 

[Ghengiroo115]

will be higher once i make a thread upscaling from another multiplier.........need to have the current projects finish first

At this rate we won’t even need the Final Egg Blaster to reach 4-A /j

 

[JJSliderman]

I disagree with Triple Boost upscaling too. That wasn't Sonic's own speed. By that same logic, SA2 Sonic absolutely should have infinite speed from going faster than the time Illumina made him travel to the center of Maginary World.

Tbf, Illumina had nothing to do with that feat due to still being defused. We have no idea if Lumina Flowlight was amping their travel speed during that point, and even if she was, it would scale to their reactions as they react to all the dream worlds passing them as they fly, and can react to and dodge Void’s attacks, with Void being able to spread his destructive corruption across the whole space.

 

[Peptocoptr27]

1 emerald >>>>>>> Fake Emerald >> Power Cores

will be higher once i make a thread upscaling from another multiplier.........need to have the current projects finish first

Oh. Right. I thought you were talking about the spin dash at first.

Yes, they’re Solaris’ attacks which suck in the space-time intersection that the characters are in throughout the level and are part of Solaris’ plan to conclude the destruction of all of space time.

Hmmmmm... Kinda sounds like the immeasurable reasoning for Undertale and Dragon Ball Xenoverse

Tbf, Illumina had nothing to do with that feat due to still being defused. We have no idea if Lumina Flowlight was amping their travel speed during that point, and even if she was, it would scale to their reactions as they react to all the dream worlds passing them as they fly, and can react to and dodge Void’s attacks, with Void being able to spread his destructive corruption across the whole space.

You might have a case there

 

[Omegabronic]

At this rate we won’t even need the Final Egg Blaster to reach 4-A /j

 

[DaMonkeMan]

scratch grounder and coconuts comeback when

 

[Brogeefrong]

scratch grounder and coconuts comeback when

when sonic team stops snooping as usual

 

[DaMonkeMan]

when sonic team stops snooping as usual

 

[CloverDragon03]

What would it take for the possibility to become at least feasible.
Genuine question.

When Super Forms stop being treated down to even from a narrative standpoint as vastly superior to Base Forms

 

[CloverDragon03]

when sonic team stops snooping as usual

I see...

 

[JJSliderman]

When Super Forms stop being treated down to even from a narrative standpoint as vastly superior to Base Forms

Would you accept base forms scaling to Solaris level stuff if that ever became a thing.

 

[MysticMania]

I heard SCR-HD talk. Gay has arrived.

Master Core ABIS created a black hole, and inside of this black hole are multiple galaxies and a lot of stars. As they're swirling rapidly and un-synced to the player's movement, the stars and galaxies must be inside of the black hole, meaning ABIS created them alongside said hole.

 

[Remus1998]

Huh?

 

[CloverDragon03]

Would you accept base forms scaling to Solaris level stuff if that ever became a thing.

Hard to say. I can only guarantee that it'd be a difficult pill to swallow

 

[JJSliderman]

I sense a new purpose

 

[Peptocoptr27]

I heard SCR-HD talk. Gay has arrived.

Master Core ABIS created a black hole, and inside of this black hole are multiple galaxies and a lot of stars. As they're swirling rapidly and un-synced to the player's movement, the stars and galaxies must be inside of the black hole, meaning ABIS created them alongside said hole.

Pretty straightforward. 3-B early modern Sonic ftw

 

[MysticMania]

The characters also fly through the black hole into the center of it. This also means they had to dodge moving stars and galaxies on their way into it, if the black hole had already formed by the time they were getting there. I don't know what that could get you, reaction speed and stuff, but you could maybe try calcing that?


And here's a link to the fight, itself.

 

[JJSliderman]

I think Amy may possibly have a resistance to empathy hax from Dark Gaia, in the Spagonia cutscene where all the minions spawn out of the people, Amy is also there and yet doesn’t have the purple sad marks or a minion spawn out of her. It’s already accepted DG hax can affect non-humans.

Only possibly though, cuz it might be that Amy wasn’t targeted.

 

[Peptocoptr27]

I think Amy may possibly have a resistance to empathy hax from Dark Gaia, in the Spagonia cutscene where all the minions spawn out of the people, Amy is also there and yet doesn’t have the purple sad marks or a minion spawn out of her. It’s already accepted DG hax can affect non-humans.

Only possibly though, cuz it might be that Amy wasn’t targeted.

It does seem she was targeted seeing as a Gaia creature emerges from her after the photo shoot. She just seemingly wasn't affected by it in the first place

 

[JJSliderman]

It does seem she was targeted seeing as a Gaia creature emerges from her after the photo shoot. She just seemingly wasn't affected by it in the first place

Actually no, that’s from Pickle’s assistant.

 

[Fireld]

Who wouldn't get targeted by that? Dark Gaia was spread across the planet with NPCs from different regions get effect by it.

 

[JJSliderman]

Not every NPC gets affected. In Holoska a guy gets affected, while his wife doesn’t

 

[Peptocoptr27]

I think Amy may possibly have a resistance to empathy hax from Dark Gaia, in the Spagonia cutscene where all the minions spawn out of the people, Amy is also there and yet doesn’t have the purple sad marks or a minion spawn out of her. It’s already accepted DG hax can affect non-humans.

Only possibly though, cuz it might be that Amy wasn’t targeted.

Seems fine then

 

[LukeChaosBlobz]

This might be a bit out of nowhere and random but Zavok and Metal Sonic are missing Toon Force and Elasticity from their pages which they should have due to the Team Sonic Racing cast surviving being flattened

 

[LukeChaosBlobz]

This might be a bit out of nowhere and random but Zavok and Metal Sonic are missing Toon Force and Elasticity from their pages which they should have due to the Team Sonic Racing cast surviving being flattened

And Honey and Espio are missing those abilities on their page even though most the Sonic the Fighters cast has those abilities

 

[McFriesGuy075]

World Rings and Arabian Nights 2-B

Oh my god, it's happening! Finally! It's finally happening! Alright, let's go with this, this upgrade is to give the world rings and it's users a 2-B Tier, so I'll start Arabian Nights is simply a book in the Sonic Universe...

vsbattles.com

Heads-up. Dunno if i agree with any of it, but putting it here just in case

 

[Theuser789]

And Honey and Espio are missing those abilities on their page even though most the Sonic the Fighters cast has those abilities

Must've slipped through. Good find, bro!

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

World Rings and Arabian Nights 2-B

Oh my god, it's happening! Finally! It's finally happening! Alright, let's go with this, this upgrade is to give the world rings and it's users a 2-B Tier, so I'll start Arabian Nights is simply a book in the Sonic Universe...

vsbattles.com

Heads-up. Dunno if i agree with any of it, but putting it here just in case

So if this gets accepted we're gonna have a 2-B book within a 2-C universe with pseudo R>F?

That sounds hilariously based lol!

 

[Omegabronic]

So if this gets accepted we're gonna have a 2-B book within a 2-C universe with pseudo R>F?

That sounds hilariously based lol!

also 2-B Erazor Djinn

 

[JJSliderman]

I have my doubts but, hey, let’s see what happens.

After it gets formatted a little better, because it is very incomprehensible currently.

 

[Ghengiroo115]

New key art for SXSG was recently shown off, which includes possibly a new form for Black Doom? Either that or a new Black Arms entity in general. Gives me Zero from Kirby vibes.

Spoiler: The art

Inject this into my veins

EDIT: Seems like this thing is gonna be present in the hub area. You can see its rings at the top right. Originally I spoilered this in case it was some out of nowhere final boss spoiler, but now it seems to be something you’ll see pretty early on.

 

[Theuser789]

Reminds me of the clocks that you put the emeralds in before the Time Eater fight.

 

[Dust_Collector]

That new artwork looks cool and all but all I can imagine when seeing it is that Goku & Vegeta vs Marvel meme

 

[Alexander]

Are we going to change the cosmology when the new game releases?because the hypertimeline is only valid because of the time eater thing

 

[JJSliderman]

Hypertimeline was also utilized in ‘06, and moreover I don’t see what Shadow Gens does to influence it in an anti-feat way.

 

[Omegabronic]

Are we going to change the cosmology when the new game releases?because the hypertimeline is only valid because of the time eater thing

Huh? I don't get what you are talking about

 

[The_Unknown_Warrior1]

Are we going to change the cosmology when the new game releases?because the hypertimeline is only valid because of the time eater thing

The Time Eater's still in Sonic x Shadow Generations, what are you talking about?

 

[LukeChaosBlobz]

Opinions?
https://vsbattles.com/threads/minor-sonic-toon-force-stuff-crt.172293/