Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

[Remus1998]

PEAK PEAK PEAK PEAK PEAK PEAK PEAK PEAK PEAK

 

[RanHover60]

This trailer is actual kino

 

[Alexander]

Don't apologize, you're absolutely entitled to your opinion and I can at least get why even if I disagree.

Also, on a different note, it seems from Overlord's dialogue that Shadow's Chaos Control doesn't work because "... I have that power for myself". Seems to me that he might resist it specifically because he copied it from Shadow (as he could still Chaos Control Super Sonic in Heroes without issue).

Yeah pretty much

 

[Alexander]

Este trailer es el puro peak de Sonic

 

[Remus1998]

Also, on a different note, it seems from Overlord's dialogue that Shadow's Chaos Control doesn't work because "... I have that power for myself". Seems to me that he might resist it specifically because he copied it from Shadow (as he could still Chaos Control Super Sonic in Heroes without issue).

So not only can he copy powers, but he now gets a resistance to them

 

[Causalist]

If I am to spitball for a bit, I think my current thoughts regarding the Metal Overlord issue is that we should downgrade Metal to “At least Low 2-C (Phantom King scaling), possibly/likely Low 1-C (Illumina/Precioustone scaling)”, downgrade Egg Wizard to “Low 1-C (Illumina/Precioustone scaling)” and then upgrade Modern base casts to “2-C (based on Omega’s upgrade thread), possibly/likely Low 1-C”. Of course you can argue the many superiority statements should make Low 1-C or 1-C more concrete for Modern base cast, however this is the very least I believe these characters should be at.

Perfect Chaos should be at least 2-C scaling to Generations base Sonic, not Low 2-C arbitrarily scaling to Phantom King

 

[Heoj]

Trailer was peak fiction goddamn they cooked

 

[JJSliderman]

Okay this is new

Sonic is…teaming up, with G.U.N.!?

This will be an interesting movie if nothing else.

 

[The_Unknown_Warrior1]

Like everyone is saying: this is absolutely peak. And as I was praying for prior to the release of the first trailer, Sonic 3 looks like it's going to be a bit more edgy and dark compared to Sonic 1 and 2.

Of course I'm not saying that it's going to be all gloomy and edgy, but it looks like that the people of this movie are treating Shadow's character and backstory with genuine respect as opposed to making light of it.

 

[JJSliderman]

Wait, going by the novel of Sonic 2, the CE were lost throughout space time, there might not be a super sonic finale this time.

 

[Issen_Mk_III]

I see DBZ,Matrix Revolutions,& Akira references. Neat

 

[Issen_Mk_III]

Wait, going by the novel of Sonic 2, the CE were lost throughout space time, there might not be a super sonic finale this time.

Super Sonic & Super Shadow got leaked a while back. It's happening

 

[Theuser789]

Wait, going by the novel of Sonic 2, the CE were lost throughout space time, there might not be a super sonic finale this time.

Spoiler: Movie 3 leaks

The leaked storyboards already confirmed Super Shadow.

 

[The_Unknown_Warrior1]

Spoiler: Movie 3 leaks

The leaked storyboards already confirmed Super Shadow.

Spoiler: Sonic 3 Leaks

So either the Biolizard might end up appearing, especially since Gerald is in this movie, or we might see something completely original to justify Super Shadow's inclusion.

 

[Alexander]

Spoiler: Sonic 3 Leaks

So either the Biolizard might end up appearing, especially since Gerald is in this movie, or we might see something completely original to justify Super Shadow's inclusion.

Possibly Chaos

 

[Ghengiroo115]

Perfect Chaos should be at least 2-C scaling to Generations base Sonic, not Low 2-C arbitrarily scaling to Phantom King

Personally I don’t think Perfect Chaos or Metal Overlord should have the 2-C rating. We wouldn’t give that rating to the Death Egg Robot, Biolizard or Classic Metal since it would cause circular scaling, and both PC and MO are narratively treated the exact same way as those bosses.

Kinda feels like old news to talk about Gens now that the movie trailer is out lol

 

[Lord_Farquaad69420]

Papa is back in his saggy flesh

 

[Lord_Farquaad69420]

Spoiler: Movie 3 leaks

The leaked storyboards already confirmed Super Shadow.

do you have them

 

[Snek]

First the mean bean coffee shop and now what looks like a chao garden Cafe. What could be next?

 

[Jimmy.robinson.5099]

First the mean bean coffee shop and now what looks like a chao garden Cafe. What could be next?

Plot twist: this is how the Freedom Fighters come back.

 

[MysticMania]

Don't apologize, you're absolutely entitled to your opinion and I can at least get why even if I disagree.

Also, on a different note, it seems from Overlord's dialogue that Shadow's Chaos Control doesn't work because "... I have that power for myself". Seems to me that he might resist it specifically because he copied it from Shadow (as he could still Chaos Control Super Sonic in Heroes without issue).

I was thinking the same! A Jotaro/DIO and Zero/X type situation, perhaps.

 

[JJSliderman]

Weird how no one else gets a resistance from Chaos Control by having it, I guess Metal just kinda built different

(He needs smthn considering how many times he jobs)

 

[Omegabronic]

Dr. Eggman vs Rick Sanchez | Genius Battle

Speed is equalized, they both have week of Preperation and SBA. Super Egg Man is restricted (Chaos Emeralds too if they ever get added to Egg Man lol) Baldy McNosehair: 2 (@omegabronic, @Peptocoptr27) King of Shit: 10 (@ShionAH, @Catbowtie, @TheOrangeGuy09, @Edutyn, @Eseseso, @Spicy78...

vsbattles.com

 

[Fireld]

I find it interesting how Shadow's CC time stop gauge gets locked when he's inside Doom's new version of Westopolis

 

[ShakeResounding]

Weird how no one else gets a resistance from Chaos Control by having it, I guess Metal just kinda built different

I think this actually implies he copies a person's powers and gains resistances to them as-such. It would explain why not all CC users resist, and why he uses the dialogue he does. This would make Neo Metal absolutely cracked

I find it interesting how Shadow's CC time stop gauge gets locked when his inside Doom's new version of Westopolis

Interesting catch!

 

[GlaceonGamez471]

This would make Neo Metal absolutely cracked

You say that as if he isn't already

 

[Theuser789]

I think this actually implies he copies a person's powers and gains resistances to them as-such. It would explain why not all CC users resist, and why he uses the dialogue he does. This would make Neo Metal absolutely cracked

Another feat that will make Eggman vs Bowser outdated

DAMN.

 

[Causalist]

I think this actually implies he copies a person's powers and gains resistances to them as-such. It would explain why not all CC users resist, and why he uses the dialogue he does. This would make Neo Metal absolutely cracked

Is this something we can already reliably conclude or just a possibillity that requires more evidence to be reliably assumed

 

[MysticMania]

Does Bowser's side have a good method of "information gathering"? Sage can suck people into Cyber Space and gain information from their memories passively, from then on, and Neo Metal copying Biodata copies all of a person, including their knowledge.

 

[ShakeResounding]

Is this something we can already reliably conclude or just a possibillity that requires more evidence to be reliably assumed

This seems to me as something we can reliably conclude.

I don't mean to sound big-headed, but like... nothing else apart from what I say makes sense UNLESS they're retconning Chaos Control being able to affect Supers. However;

• This is an even bigger leap of faith
• We'd need to wait for another Base character to use Chaos Control on a Super-level baddie.

All this to say, Neo Metal copying resistances (A) Requires the least amount of assumptions made (B) Aligns with the dialogue of the character itself.

 

[Causalist]

Does Bowser's side have a good method of "information gathering"? Sage can suck people into Cyber Space and gain information from their memories passively, from then on, and Neo Metal copying Biodata copies all of a person, including their knowledge.

He has means of information analysis, such as Tippi, but the Phantom Ruby resists information analysis, so Bowser is way more limited than Eggman

 

[DaMonkeMan]

SEGA!!!! PUT LIVE AND LEARN IN THE MOVIE AND MY SOUL IS YOURS!!!

 

[RedReaper616]

Sage is also far better at info analysis. She was able to run millions of simulations on the final battle and figured out the best chance of success, compared to Tippi, who isn't nearly as capable in terms of application of data. It doesn't help that, canonically, Eggman makes his shit weirdly to make it harder to break into or analyze, if I remember correct from Tails' when he tries to break into Eggman's tech.

 

[MysticMania]

but the Phantom Ruby resists information analysis,

Oh, it does?

 

[ShakeResounding]

Oh, it does?

Yes, Tails' gamepad thingy couldn't get a read on him and that's what Sonic was stalling for.

I think I had a bundle compilation of Tails' pad doing shit but I lost it somewhere

 

[JJSliderman]

Yeah, Tails couldn’t analyze Infinite’s abilities with the Miles Electric Wii U game pad.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Super Sonic & Super Shadow got leaked a while back. It's happening

Wait, what? Where'd y'all find this

 

[FaceOff81]

Alright seriously, please no more discussion Movie 3 Spoilers through leaks or in general until after the movie comes out. I'd rather not get spoiled. I know that some people put the Spoiler Tag within their posts, but the replies to some of them do not have Spoiler Tag present.

 

[Woomica]

if i dont hear this theme or something similar to this ima lose it

 

[ShakeResounding]

if i dont hear this theme or something similar to this ima lose it

I Am... PEAK of Me.