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Especially when it comes to Sonic.
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Sonic General Discussion Zone 15: OH NO!
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I couldn't agree more.
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The idea of Time Travel is confusing for a lot of franchises really. Which is why I'm glad Rick & Morty don't use for that reason.
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Lol beat you to it.
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY CAL!!
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Happy Cake Day Cal
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Happy Cal day Birth!
Wait....
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''I heard there was a secret cord...''
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You guys notice how depowered characters are (so far anyway) in IDW compared to Archie? (I don't have a problem with it, btw, as it keeps them from being insanely broken and to potentially keep the plots good enough without thinking "Can't this dude move at light speed/reality bend his way out of this situation?")
IDW Silver:
*Almost dies by a small building explosion*
*Struggling to pull Master Overlord's wing out*
*Struggles to hold multiple people*
*Struggling to hold multiple Egg Pawns in place*
*Casually lifts multiple buildings*
*Tanks hit from island*
*Brings everyone to a full stop by the wave of his hand*
*Temporarily brings Super Scourge to a full stop*
Archie Silver: Observe
IDW Silver:
*Almost dies by a small building explosion*
*Struggling to pull Master Overlord's wing out*
*Struggles to hold multiple people*
*Struggling to hold multiple Egg Pawns in place*
*Casually lifts multiple buildings*
*Tanks hit from island*
*Brings everyone to a full stop by the wave of his hand*
*Temporarily brings Super Scourge to a full stop*
Archie Silver: Observe
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Honestly, it bothered me too, but I let that slide. Now when he nearly died by a small building explosion, that actually hurt my soul and I'm not even that big of a fan of Silver.
BlastX
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The small bulding explosion also hurt me as a Sonic (the character) fan.
This is why I usually don't see how flynn is often joked as "making characters op" when most of the time he kinda nerf them, he's an ok-good writer and it's very good that he doesn't focus on power, buuuutt you get the idea.
This is why I usually don't see how flynn is often joked as "making characters op" when most of the time he kinda nerf them, he's an ok-good writer and it's very good that he doesn't focus on power, buuuutt you get the idea.
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I mean almost all of the 2-A feats in Archie were under Ian Flynn.
I will take good storytelling over OPness, though Silver struggling to lift multiple people does seem ridiculous.
I will take good storytelling over OPness, though Silver struggling to lift multiple people does seem ridiculous.
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I think Ian Flynn as a writer thinks it okay to debuff a regular character, because in turn he would buff the shit out of their super forms.
I think it's a well thought out plan. It gives the fans satisfaction of how Sonic and others are when they are at their peak, but at the same time don't trade in good story telling for power fantasy. Ian truly does have the cake and eats it too.
I think it's a well thought out plan. It gives the fans satisfaction of how Sonic and others are when they are at their peak, but at the same time don't trade in good story telling for power fantasy. Ian truly does have the cake and eats it too.
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Ok, I should probably wrote it better.
I think flynn often doesn't really care how strong or weak the characters are, whatever serves the story it works for him.
Like, for example Sonic in the archie comics was able to sometimes to **** up an entire black hole/fight with people who could create universes/fight with a guy who could control the entire ocean and other times gets knocked around by normal people or restrained by shackles.
I think flynn often doesn't really care how strong or weak the characters are, whatever serves the story it works for him.
Like, for example Sonic in the archie comics was able to sometimes to **** up an entire black hole/fight with people who could create universes/fight with a guy who could control the entire ocean and other times gets knocked around by normal people or restrained by shackles.
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@MYVILLAIN
^I was just about to type something like that.
The base characters really did get debuffed after Ian Flynn took over for the Archie Universe.
^I was just about to type something like that.
The base characters really did get debuffed after Ian Flynn took over for the Archie Universe.
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Let's press F to pay respect to 2-B Sonic
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I heard there was a secret cord... <-- My new "F"
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@MYHERO that's true.
Though he tends to be consistent in how strong characters are compared to others/narrative I think.
Like Shadow seems to be consistently stronger than Sonic, Metal Sonic takes multiple people to defeat, Sonic seems to struggle against most threats unless he has help or he is facing fodder.
Though he tends to be consistent in how strong characters are compared to others/narrative I think.
Like Shadow seems to be consistently stronger than Sonic, Metal Sonic takes multiple people to defeat, Sonic seems to struggle against most threats unless he has help or he is facing fodder.
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Shadow being stronger than Sonic is a given considering his mindset and his inhibitor rings. I think the reason why Shadow doesn't really use that much hax when fighting Sonic is because he views him as a rival. A rival he wants to prove that he is better than by combating Sonic at his forte, physical slugfests. Or it just might be CIS but I tend to think the glass is half full.
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All in favor of Infinite vs Super Archie Sonic?
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What Infinite do to you?
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Could've been dope.
On another note this thread while not Sonic related is still something I want you guys to check out https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/3101454
On another note this thread while not Sonic related is still something I want you guys to check out https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/3101454
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Honestly, I think the reason Shadow sometimes loses to Sonic (aside from being weakened in Sonic Battle) is the same reason Eggman always loses to Sonic: his gigantic ego. Believing that he can beat Sonic without overusing his Chaos Powers.
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Well again Infinite isn't "weak"
I still think he's kinda cool in design and voice but I wish he was written better
I still think he's kinda cool in design and voice but I wish he was written better
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Yeah, he's not weak though, Shadow says otherwise, but he's nowhere close to Super Sonic's power. Though, before the game came out and they mentioned Infinite being the most powerful villain Sonic has faced, I was really hoping he'd be so powerful, they'd have to bring back Hyper Sonic.
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I really don't like the idea of Shadow having an ego. Yeah it's true for the most recent games, but I wish Shadow was just a bit more mature than that. Sonic 06 had his characters down perfectly. He felt like an older smarter person compared to the rest of the cast, and I think that's how Shadow should be. Not an edgy prideful rival stereotype.
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That's gross.
That is A LOT of damage.
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TBH I never liked the idea that Eggman (and Shadow...and most of the cast) can beat Sonic and there's always another factor getting in the way and that Sonic got lucky.
It feels it downplays Sonic, he's cocky because he's aware of how strong he is and he isn't lying about it, when he boast his power it's because he knows he is that powerful there's some exceptions but those are little.
Plus I feel some things in the franchise don't work as well if you go with that interpretation.
It feels it downplays Sonic, he's cocky because he's aware of how strong he is and he isn't lying about it, when he boast his power it's because he knows he is that powerful there's some exceptions but those are little.
Plus I feel some things in the franchise don't work as well if you go with that interpretation.
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