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Then I don’t see how SGGL loses then, I don’t know why it’s been debated so long.
If they’re nigh comparable in every aspect, Hax win out, in this case SGGL.
Because the probability thing takes time to charge up, and is only for a single attack. That’s like the only super haxy thing Simon is SGGL has
 
Here's a thinking outside of the box Question
What stops goku from just IT inside the SGGL and then just point blank shoot simon in the face???
He can teleport inside once their is someone inside there which there is

And SGGL doesn't have anything to stop that from happening
 
Here's a thinking outside of the box Question
What stops goku from just IT inside the SGGL and then just point blank shoot simon in the face???
He can teleport inside once their is someone inside there which there is

And SGGL doesn't have anything to stop that from happening
Oh my god goku for reasons above
 
isnt goku hundreds of thousands of times 3-a at this point, cant he one shot?
He's already 7 times stronger in SSJ and can go blue and OP is telling me you can't say he one shots because the multiplier is unknown, basically claiming that ssg is less than 0.5 multiplier lol.
 
I never knew that, lol I always though he was few hundreds time
Does it really even matter when goku can just one shot by IT inside and pop simon
There is literally nothing he can do at that point to defend himself
 
Does it really even matter when goku can just one shot by IT inside and pop simon
There is literally nothing he can do at that point to defend himself
I mean he kind uses IT with kamehameha so that's valid
 
so he still has enough power to one shot
Yes an easily, if OP wants it fair then change it to BoG ssj goku which has the exact same value as his ssb rof self because ssg is unknown lol. Anyway I'm still voting goku for that genius instant movement outplay.
 
Well, it’s not a one shot, because it’s still not a 7.5x difference, but with a Kamehameha, it should get the job done

so what are the votes?
 
Yes an easily, if OP wants it fair then change it to BoG ssj goku which has the exact same value as his ssb rof self because ssg is unknown lol. Anyway I'm still voting goku for that genius instant movement outplay.
It is already fair, Simon just has to be willing to Probability Manipulation as a first move, but we’ve established that he most likely wouldn’t
 
Ofcourse the form that uses the super saiyan transformation doesn't have the multiplier of a super saiyan! Silly me, you really helped me, for a second I thought that ssb was just ssg+ ssj. You are a smart fella!
 
Ofcourse the form that uses the super saiyan transformation doesn't have the multiplier of a super saiyan! Silly me, you really helped me, for a second I thought that ssb was just ssg+ ssj. You are a smart fella!
Hasn’t been accepted, so don’t care
 
I don't really understand how you think goku doesn't one shot in ssb. Ssj goku gets stomped by SSJ2, Ssj2 stomped by ssj3 so on it goes like this base <<< ssj <<< SSJ2 <<< ssj3 <<<< ssg <<< SSB. I actually find it hard to believe that OP thinks that goku doesn't one shot lol.
 
Because multiplier’s aren’t accepted, it’s still just at least 7.05 times difference
In my opinion, stuff not being accepted doesn't mean to throw away basic logic in favor of what the site thinks. But fine I think SSB is being discussed as being a ssj x ssg multiplier because it is.
 
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