Some John Wick feats in the comics

[Stalker_Maggot]

Idk if this will add anything major but here (btw, the comics are canon iirc):

Broke someone's neck: https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-g_I6U8Hu...zZdkFBUuHA-m1tXEPZwNzQCHMYCw/s1600/RCO019.jpg

Survives being shot: https://2.bp.blogspot.com/s7dNwG_-s...cmKhlwUPgU8CQIfcXhM91LSE246ntm-OXZqKutQ=s1600

Breaks a window: https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5DZyKRVR...WJp-V4jjQokKqYJOHTe5oQCHMYCw/s1600/RCO017.jpg

He dodged bullets as a kid: https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-NcFGcYAo...kqHLmm5arT8-mAGFlIWmrwCHMYCw/s1600/RCO012.jpg

Survives being shot in the back and this also counts as a stealth feat (I guess): https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-E7HTVkdi...VwMN6LO8UOCrZrw_QU9IkgCHMYCw/s1600/RCO008.jpg

Dodges bullets: https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-W2hLrxip...e6KZxJrnf_OZkhwxlVBCuACHMYCw/s1600/RCO023.jpg

As a kid, he survived this: https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-OJclaKan...2c2CRujsGbwYJbMDL0F_vQCHMYCw/s1600/RCO014.jpg https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-IAULBx1B...Xxw4XtATXWG5Lrg5HKZURwCHMYCw/s1600/RCO015.jpg

 

[KLOL506]

HOLY SHIT.

This is actually impressive.

 

[Stalker_Maggot]

Here is a link to the comics https://***************.to/Comic/John-Wick

 

[TheArsenal1212]

Bond and Wick getting some feats nice

 

[Stalker_Maggot]

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[GojiBoyForever]

Would this upgrade his speed?

 

[Stalker_Maggot]

Potentially

 

[The_Prince_of_Counters]

I've been meaning to get into this, Calamity and Wick both have point blank gun fire without aim dodging. Theres already a calc for those two feats.

 

[KLOL506]

Nani

Would like to see them calcs tho. Should be pretty interesting.

 

[KLOL506]

OK so I checked the calc and it wields Subsonic+. Now we just need to get it approved.

 

[Qawsedf234]

Not only is the calc unaccepted, I don't think she actually dodged anything. It looks like the blonde just missed every shot.

 

[KLOL506]

Not only is the calc unaccepted, I don't think she actually dodged anything. It looks like the blonde just missed every shot.

Nope, she jumped out right before the shots hit her human shield. This is the actual feat, and the blonde's the one who does the dodging.

M3X forgot to add this scan into his calc.

 

[The_Prince_of_Counters]

Yeah, that's not aim dodging and it's pretty consistent for Calamity ( the blonde ) who also has a feat of dodging a motorcycle going top speed zipping right past her head.

 

[Qawsedf234]

All of the bullets hit the body shield and there's no indication as to when she started to move. To call it bullet timing is a stretch.

 

[The_Prince_of_Counters]

The body shield that was standing behind her while holding her in place? She then jumps while getting shot at point blank, jumps over the guard and avoids the bullets. To say it isn't bullet timing sounds like a stretch if anything. Bullet timing feats happen quite consistently in the comic.

 

[Qawsedf234]

Behind her? He was directly in front of her. Considering the source material I do think saying its bullet timing is a stretch.

 

[Antvasima]

@Qawsedf

So which of the feats do you accept, and what, if any, upgrades would you suggest from them?

 

[Qawsedf234]

I think the kid Wick and the other running scene probably supports a superhuman rating for out running the aim of multiple shooters in decent lighting conditions

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. That seems fine then.

 

[Assembled1801]

That's gonna make John Wick's stats more stronger. The comic book of it is a prequel to the films that shows John Wick's careers before he retired for 5 years.

 

[Stalker_Maggot]

Bump

 

[Assembled1801]

I wonder Wick's gonna be upgraded based on the comic book feats.

 

[Antvasima]

I think the kid Wick and the other running scene probably supports a superhuman rating for out running the aim of multiple shooters in decent lighting conditions

This can probably be applied.

 

[The_Impress]

Actually, wait, is the John Wick profile a composite? Or alternatively, are the comics acknowledged by the movies? If no to both, any stats derived by these should be a new key, no?

 

[Hellbeast1]

My main question is are the Wick comics canon

 

[KLOL506]

Apparently, yeah, it is.

It's a prequel to the movies.

 

[The_Impress]

Maybe you linked the wrong article? Because I don't see the statement for the canonicity of the comics, which are besides the point anyhow. We don't use these supposedly "canon" games and comics to scale other characters very much, what makes Wick so special?

 

[KLOL506]

Found an interview relating to the comic here.

 

[The_Impress]

Are the comics acknowledged by the movies? If no to both, any stats derived by these should be a new key, no?

Which are besides the point anyhow. We don't use these supposedly "canon" games and comics to scale other characters very much, what makes Wick so special?

In my opinion a second "Comics" key is a much better fit for the changes proposed

 

[Antvasima]

Zark seems to make sense.

 

[Chariot190]

We don't use these supposedly "canon" games and comics to scale other characters very much, what makes Wick so special?

That's probably because said comics and games arent canon? And if they are then they should be used. Cant say much here but if these comics are in fact canon, and the canonicity comes from a reliable source like a director or something then it isnt a case of being special, it's just using canon information.

 

[GojiBoyForever]

Yeah, these comics are canon, no reason to separate keys here.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay then.

 

[Assembled1801]

Is Wick's going to be upgraded?

 

[The_Impress]

They're loose canon, by that logic every single Spider-Man should be scaling to the Spider-Verse event, since that was supposedly canon too despite never being mentioned by their original sources. Hell we don't even see AoS or other verse being compatible with franchises like MCU. Also, stuff like this leads to massively inflated tiers overtime, slightly exaggerated example would be Legends Canon from Star Wars.

It isn't like the directors and writers themselves are supervising the comics. Also, when has there ever been a problem with keying these sorts of stuff? It's only helping with consistency. The two keys concept is a very neat compromise for both the worlds.

 

[KLOL506]

Directors and Reeves themselves gave the comics their blessings. Just sayin'.

 

[The_Impress]

And Kevin Feige insisted that the Marvel TV Shows connect with the Movies before Disney+. We all know how well directors consider stuff like this before making their films.

There is a 2003 Daredevil Comic and a Dark Knight direct-to-DVD animated special that is stated to be canon, despite very clearly having little to relevance to the films themselves. The Dark Knight one I remember can upgrade the Verse significantly. Hell, Marvel Animated lists a ton of cartoon shows that supoosed belong to the same universe, despite having little to no continuity

 

[Chariot190]

Zark, I doubt that the reason why spidermans dont scale from the spiderverse event is because of some arbitrary reason like that. It's probably because outliers and Marvel being inconsistent as all hell and mostly acts on the rule of cool half the time. Agents of Shield should be compatible with MCU, isnt it literally disney and the same actors even (minus big names that cost way to much)? While taking place in the same established world? Star Wars has explicitly different canons though? It aint the same canon being used to scale the same canon i dont think. And for massively inflated tiers, that's called looking at consistency and seeing what's an outlier or not not banning the use of canon information.

Cant say anything on if these comics are indeed canon or who or what is being supervised, but if they are in fact cano then theyre 100% usable by virtue of being canon, and it aint a case of being special, it's literally how these things work, it being a different medium doesnt invalidate it.

 

[Cropfist]

Those are probably not accepted more due to obscurity than anything else. Very obscure examples.

 

[Chariot190]

>There is a 2003 Daredevil Comic and a Dark Knight direct-to-DVD animated special that is stated to be canon, despite very clearly having little to relevance to the films themselves.

It being relevant doesnt mean it aint canon. Jaco the galactic patrolman is canon but Bulma's sister is the most nonrelevant thing in dbz history. Or Jiya which is even worse with the only relation being it's where the galactic patrol came from.

>The Dark Knight one I remember can upgrade the Verse significantly. Hell, Marvel Animated lists a ton of cartoon shows that supoosed belong to the same universe, despite having little to no continuity

It seems to me youre taking things that arent relevant or things that have outliers to mean they arent canon, as that's what I'm getting from your posts. You need to understand that even though something isnt important, doesnt mean it aint canon and apart of that story officially and that even though outliers exist, that doesnt invalidate it being canon.