Some DMC Hax and Abilities Additions

[Tony_di_bugalu]

You know what, Imma make it, you can debate for me

 

[Dienomite22]

I can make, I won't be able to moderate or add votes until later though (let them stack and handle it all in one burst)

 

[Lightning_XXI]

We need everyone for this fight, I'll ask Schnee to make it, don't worry

 

[InfernoKitsune]

I was wondering where Dante's Class G lifting strength comes from? Is it from the Savior or something else?

 

[KnightOfSunlight]

iirc lifting strength gets upgraded with AP unless that AP isn't physically based

Someone using magic for their AP wouldn't get a buff to LS, but someone swinging a sword would.

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Savior, yes

 

[Dienomite22]

@InfernoKitsune

Yep, the Savior

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

From stoping a punch from the savior then throw it away.

 

[InfernoKitsune]

Ok. Always wondered what the feat was. Thanks for the responses.

 

[Lightning_XXI]

iirc lifting strength gets upgraded with AP unless that AP isn't physically based
Someone using magic for their AP wouldn't get a buff to LS, but someone swinging a sword would.

I don't think it works like that tho

However, we should actually calc the Savior's weight tho, we have a size scalling for him and Dante, and his made out of stone-like material

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

However, we should actually calc the Savior's weight tho, we have a size scalling for him and Dante, and his made out of stone-like material

I agree but the thing is, we have shots that give even bigger differences.

For example here, his fingers are as big if not bigger than Dante: https://www.supercheats.com/guides/files/guid/devil-may-cry-4/18-lefthand.jpg

Another one of dante being way to small for its hand: https://www.supercheats.com/guides/files/guid/devil-may-cry-4/18-leftwristandshoulder.jpg

But here you see the savior being so small that Nero fits like 1/5 of its upper body: https://www.supercheats.com/guides/files/guid/devil-may-cry-4/11-savior.jpg

And there is the cutscene where Nero gets grabbed and fits like half of the hand: https://youtu.be/eEvgjBQqKRc?t=380

This is nero being modded into the mission: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/vhxV-GosrnQ/maxresdefault.jpg He is smaller than dante there.

Opening image of mission 18 Dante is so small compared to the savior: https://youtu.be/tBr-OiqiOJs?t=81

Mission 19, Dante is small again: https://youtu.be/vlo2T0-fXc8?t=2

Mission 20, Dante stops the punch. The Savior isn't that big, again: https://youtu.be/6Z1TEI43X1U?t=354

 

[Lightning_XXI]

We should use the offcial size scalling, I believe, since using cutscenes apparently wouldn't be that good

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Wait, there is an official size for the savior? care to link it?

 

[Dienomite22]

Artbook states it's 150 meters tall

 

[KnightOfSunlight]

50 meters iirc

 

[Dienomite22]

50 meters iirc

I think that's how it was at first but the devs changed it

 

[Lightning_XXI]

https://66.media.tumblr.com/f6a70cf...02a9/tumblr_inline_prkc4wRLpC1t43zu1_1280.jpg

It's the best bet

 

[Dienomite22]

Just the head is over 20 meters? Damn

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Now calculate the rest of the body :v

Also, Agnus is towering over Dante and Nero, damn, the guy sure is tall.

 

[Lightning_XXI]

DMC is just lol about size tho

Nero, Vergil, Dante, Credo, Agnus, Morrison, V, they are all 190+

Well, most actually use those biker boots style that give 2 to 3cm to anyone who uses, but still

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

I meant Credo lol, my bad.

 

[Dienomite22]

The average person is roughly 7.5 heads tall but I don't think we can use the average of human beings to determine the size of a colossal stone titan

 

[KnightOfSunlight]

Dante gains enough height to hit just above 2 meters in DT

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

The average person is roughly 7.5 heads tall but I don't think we can use the average of human beings to determine the size of a colossal stone titan

It gives 150m like that which I dunno if it is consistent with what us shown.

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Well, it's officially stated that Dante, with his boot, is 190 cm tall, which would make him around 187/188, which is actually his model height




Here we can see that Vergil is taller than Dante since they have the same height in game but Dante's boots have a bigger heel, this also explains why he's taller than Nero, who also have 190cm with boots

 

[Dienomite22]

@Tony I mean according to devs it's 150m and gameplay/cinematics in most media are inconsistent when it comes to large scale things.

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Also, I found this:

• (about -2000) Sparda defeated Mundus and closed the portal to the demon world
• (0) Vergil and Dante were born (never mentioned when Sparda and Eva met but they were married)
• (8) Sparda disappeared(died) and shortly after Eva was killed by demons, which were sent by Mundus
• (early 18) Vergil visited Fortuna to search for tales and information about Sparda and impregnated a human woman("Deadly Fortune" novel, Artbook 3142 SE) at the same time Dante was known as Tony Redgrave("Before the Nightmare" novel)
• (late 18) DMC Manga + Nero's birth
• (19) DMC3(Nero was around 1 year old)
• (28) DMC1(Nero was 10 years old)
• (At some point between 28 and 31)The Order of the Sword found Nelo Angelo's broken armor at Fortuna seaside and the broken Yamato at Fortuna outskirts("Deadly Fortune" novel+"Before the Nightmare" novel)
• (early 31) DMC Animation(Nero was 13 years old, Patty was 8 years old)
• (late 31) DMC2
• (late 35/early 36) DMC4(Nero was 17 years old, mentioned in the "Deadly Fortune" novel)
• (40-41) "Before the Nightmare" novel events, taking place 5 years after the Fortuna incident and one year before DMC5 till the events of DMC5. The time skip in the novel's plot is one year. (Nero is 22-23 years old, Patty is 17-18 years old)
• (41) DMC5(Nero is 23 years old, Patty is 18 years old)(Dante's age was mentioned on the ITG site to be 41 in 5)

That's true tho ? Apparently ITG site have a info or a interview that can help us with Dante's age

 

[Sparda_20000000]

Are v's summons getting low godly Regenerationn added and type 4 and 8 immortality?

 

[Galens]

It is seen that many things were added to Dante. Good job for all of you guys.

 

[Dienomite22]

https://twitter.com/Hikaru_Mitsuki/status/1156278471640961025 (Thank GinDan for the link)

So yea, Dante has absolute zero with King Cerberus and Vergil has resistance to it.Also, this would probably mean King Cerberus has pretty potent fire and electricity manipulation since he's able to transform the entire room's element by an elemental blast.

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Why resistance to Vergil ?

 

[Dienomite22]

He hired King Cerberus for it's absolute zero (so he knows it's abilities), Urizen likely had a run in with King Cerberus and he resists attacks from Dante's King Cerberus.

 

[Sparda_20000000]

Are v's summons getting low godly Regenerationn added and type 4 and 8 immortality?

If they are getting low godly Regenerationn I think type 3 should be added also

 

[Dienomite22]

The other CRT was covering that. I think it was accepted but I don't remember but if it was then it should be fine to add.

 

[Dienomite22]

so AZ stuff is fine to add right?

 

[Dienomite22]

bump

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

What is left to add?

 

[Dienomite22]

Absolute zero for Dante and resistance to it for Vergil.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Ahhh, we may wanna call Glass to check it then.

 

[Dienomite22]

I shot him a message