Some Changes Regarding Future Zamasu and Fusion Zamasu

[MeleeniumRXJ]

I was thinking, shouldn't Immortal Soul Zamasu be a key of Future Zamasu and not Fusion Zamasu? It's more-or-less explained that when Black and Zamasu fused, the resulted fusion wasn't entirely immortal anymore since Black wasn't immortal. Therefore, when Trunks sliced him in half, the side of him that was Black died, while the original Future Zamasu remained and began to become one with the universe.

It's further evident that Immortal Soul Zamasu is just Future Zamasu due to the fact that the faces we see in the sky looks like Future Zamasu (judging mainly by his hair, but what else do you need). His hair is like regular Zamasu and not Fusion Zamasu.

So all in all, Future Zamasu would be upgraded to Low 2-C as Immortal Soul Zamasu, while Fusion Zamasu would be downgraded to 3-A as his most powerful state.

 

[The_Everlasting]

Black and Zamasu have the exact same soul anyway, so the fact that the face only looks like Zamasu doesn't really mean much.

Also, Fusion Zamasu's hair was unusual because Goku Black was SSJR when the fusion happened. Thus, he was permanently SSJR but had silver hair because of Zamasu. Why would a soul be stuck in that form?

Also also, that's not Zamasu's soul, it's the physical incarnation of Zamasu's Will, as described in Toei's official timelines.

 

[MeleeniumRXJ]

Also also, that's not Zamasu's soul, it's the physical incarnation of Zamasu's Will, as described in Toei's official timelines.

Yes, but why did that will survive? It's because of Future Zamasu's immortality. If he were never immortal, it wouldn't have happened. Soul or will or whatever it is, it's the immortal aspect of Zamasu which didn't exist in Black. So either it should be a key of Future Zamasu, or it should be a seperate character entirely. I don't see why it's a key of Fusion Zamasu.

 

[The_Everlasting]

That will survived because Zamasu's hatred of mortals had grown so extreme that it manifested itself as its own entity, it has nothing to do with Zamasu's immortality.

 

[Ryukama]

That will survived because Zamasu's hatred of mortals had grown so extreme that it manifested itself as its own entity

Doesn't that kind of make this a separate character then?

 

[The_Everlasting]

Yeah.

Honestly I always figured Zamasu's Will deserved its own page, but I didn't know if others would be okay with it or if that would be excessive (Since, y'know, we'd have four separate pages all detailing the same character).

Speaking of Zamasu, should we move him to his own page as well? That is, merge it with Future Zamasu since they're effectively identical outside of the latter's immortality. Placing him in Goku Black's page feels a bit much when the two of them have completely different movesets and, at first IIRC, different personalities.

 

[Ryukama]

If they're clearly 4 different entities/incantations, even if from the same person, I wouldn't mind 4 pages. However I think that might start confusing a lot of our viewers and take traction away from the current Fusion Zamasu page.

It's whichever you and others think is best.

 

[MeleeniumRXJ]

That will survived because Zamasu's hatred of mortals had grown so extreme that it manifested itself as its own entity

Where was that stated or implied? As far as I remember, his will survived with no direct explanation, but his immortality should be the default assumption.

And I don't think present Zamasu should be merged with Future Zamasu since present Zamasu is the version of Zamasu that would have become Black had he not been killed by Beerus. Future Zamasu is the version of Zamasu from Future Trunks' timeline.

 

[The_Everlasting]

When a character can have five pages that can accurately describe him and not be cluttered, you know something's up.

@Meleenium

Why would a person's will be dependent of their mortality?

 

[MeleeniumRXJ]

@The Everlasting

Why wouldn't it be? You're telling me his will surivived just because? There has to be a reason. We know he's immortal, and some aspect of him survived after his physical body was destroyed. It doesn't take much to put two and two together. And like I said, where was it stated that his will surivived simply because his hatred grew so much?

 

[AppleLord]

@MeleeniumRXJ Has a point.

 

[PridedWaif]

That was Zamasu will desire but it was only prevalent to surviving because it was his soul granted immortality given from super Shenron. In turn it's his soul lol. Astral/Abstract Zamasu is a better term for that zamasu took over the future multiverse and distorted into the present time and as toriyama said an enemy that will cause even zeno to step or a battle surpassing time/space. That same power was in Enraged Merged Zamasu, but just in a physical state Vegito was a greater power who weakened him and nulled his Regenerationn/immortality before defusing and gave trunks the kill for plot purposes.

 

[Antvasima]

I suppose that you can move Zamasu's will to its own page if you wish.

 

[MeleeniumRXJ]

I don't really know my way around editing pages. Does anyone else have any thoughts on this though?

 

[Antvasima]

I was referring to the other staff members.