Some Abilities for Pokémon

[Drite77]

So i decided to make this thread because Elizhaa brought up two things that she thinks that Pokémon in general need to have, i will be updating this as we go.

First thing that she proposed was the addition of Extrasensory Perception because Non-Physical Interaction gives you that, apparently.

And the Second and last one is the addition of Resistance to Soul Manipulation to all pokémon via taking hits and not be one-shotted by Ghost type attacks. Likewise, if this is accepted, Dark mons should have extreme resistance to it and Normal mons would problaby be immune to it, or just have a higher resistance of Soul Manip than Dark mons. Psychic and Ghost type Pokémons are strange, they are not one-shotted, but they are weak to it, so they could either have Soul Manip not to be mentioned on the profile, added as a weakness, or just put that it resist Soul Manip, even though Game Mechanics say otherwise.

Other option is that Ghost type attacks don't have Soul Manipulation aspects, i don't know how they got that, but i don't see why they should have Soul Manip

 

[Antoniofer]

I do not recall Non-Physical Interaction granting Extrasenry Perception by default, ghost-type pokemon aren't spiritually invisible by default neither to grant that ability.

And why ghost-type pokemon would one-shot other beings? They do not destroy one soul in one go, I do not recall such statement.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Non-Physical Interaction does not give you Extrasensory Perception.

What is your evidence for every ghost type attack attacking the soul? also immunity isn't a thing unless you have something stating those pokemon lack a soul.

 

[Assaltwaffle]

I'm against both of these.

Why would you gain extrasensory perception because of non-physical interaction? I don't get it.

Ghost attacks are just attacks made from spectral or ghostly energy. They aren't manipulating or destroying the soul of their targets.

 

[Drite77]

Elizhaa mentioned that on this thread, also, i will update the OP

 

[Wokistan]

Yeah I disagree with both these too. NPI=/=ESP as everyone else has already said, and just because you're a ghost doesn't mean every attack hits the soul. Hell, not all soul manip even needs to negate durability, so even if they could it wouldn't necessarily be a resistance.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Elizhaa is incorrect.

 

[Drite77]

Ummm, maybe i should wait for she to make a thread about those explaining her point better, also, i updated the OP in relation to Soul Manipulation on Ghost type attacks

 

[Wokistan]

You only get an immunity to soul manipulation via not having one, and even then Enrico Pucci exists with his power of inserting souls to mess with people.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

No to both. Ghosts aren't invisible in Pokémon. Anyone can see them.

Also like I said somewhere else before, ghost types have NPI with their ghost-type attacks, not soul manip.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Against.

 

[Drite77]

This could also mean that Ghost type attacks would lose their Soul Manipulation effect?

 

[Antoniofer]

Since when they have that? I mean, it wouldn't be strange that few pokemon have that power, but all ghost types?

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

What abilities grant soul manipulation? I can't recall a single one.

 

[Bobsican]

What abilities grant soul manipulation? I can't recall a single one.

Pokédex entries for Pokémon like Gengar, I think.

 

[Drite77]

Neither do i, but i recall that some Ghost type attacks granted Soul Manip, as i have seen in some profiles, like Murkrow's profile

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Just read all of Gengar's pokedex entries and there was nothing about soul manipulation, mostly stealing lives at night and making areas 10 degrees cooler.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Some Pokémon do have soul manip, like Chandelure and other soul-stealing mons, but that's not inherent to either ghost types or ghost type attacks.

 

[Starter_Pack]

I vehemently disagree with both suggestions, and Saikou raises a valid point on this.

They're not attacking the soul as much as they're just using spiritual energy when using Ghost type moves.

 

[NeoZex6399]

@Saikou

Not always.

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Silph_Scope

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

It's one specific case where the ghosts aren't even invisible, just in a different form. And the Pokémon are explictly affected by it.

 

[Dziga]

Agree with Saikou and Assalt.

 

[Drite77]

Should i close this since the consensus is unanimous?

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

You can't close threads.

Instead it will remain open forever, reminding you every day of your past mistakes as the disagreements keep pilling up.

Or I could just close it.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

1) Non-physical interaction has nothing to do with being able to sense things.

2) Non-physical interaction also isn't soul manipulation.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

See, it keeps pilling up forever.

But yeah, I'll close it now.