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Does that mean the separating-the-boxes feat will be finally taken into account?
The Snyderverse include Man of Steel in its canon so the world engine feat is included.
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Snyder Cut Discussion Thread
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The Snyderverse include Man of Steel in its canon so the world engine feat is included.
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For what it's worth, Mother Boxes when starting the merging process visibly shake the whole world (not talking about terraforming). Zeus was able to seperate the boxes while they were in that same exact state. If the boxes merging release world shaking energy, perhaps seperating them would be comparable.
He may not scale at all since we don't know the exwct mechanics of MBs AFAIK but still just saying.
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If we go that way and include this feat, then this would get a Low 6-B (since shaking the Earth is Low 6-B) rating but while I would be happy for Zeus and Prime Ares to be that way, that would be too high for the setting so I doubt this will be used. Though we could still use it and remain consistent with the whole War of the Gods empowered Ares enough to fight and kill Zeus stuff.
Don't know about scaling him to that. For the record, the WE profiles still has the old "At least 7-A to 6-C, likely High 6-c" tier, maybe it should be edited.
Don't know about scaling him to that. For the record, the WE profiles still has the old "At least 7-A to 6-C, likely High 6-c" tier, maybe it should be edited.
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Tbh, IDK if World Engine is quantifiable.
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The basis of the profile is what effects it would have had on the planet and how the kryptonian energy released by the machine harmed Superman so...
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Yeah but do we know the overall timeframe for the WE process?
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I don't think so. But the defenses were effectively capable of harming Superman.
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Well Zeus had no difficulties separating the almost completely merged boxes with a single lightning bolt where Cyborg and Superman had to struggle to an extreme degree to separate them. And it happened in both versions so from what we see, Zeus >>> Resurrected Sup. Prime Ares is as well. Btw, was it you talking about putting Prime Ares to 6-C due to being above Sup?
I agree, only Clark can scale.
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Well good to hear actually. Do you plan to make a general revision thread for all of this?
I would say it's the same thing since Sup is above everyone else in the League even before his death and resurrection (at worse, he is slightly above them).
I would say it's the same thing since Sup is above everyone else in the League even before his death and resurrection (at worse, he is slightly above them).
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You have a link for it?
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This movie was ******* amazing.
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Question: how powerful was supes death scream?
Also, to interject my BvS opinion: Supes was healed after he was touched by sunlight. Same thing happened in MoS after the World Engine was destroyed so Supes did fight Doomsday at full strength for a portion. That stated: did the motherbox amp him here? It seems like he was brought back at full power and essentially sundipped hence why we see the scene of him flying into space before the final fight with steppy.
Also, to interject my BvS opinion: Supes was healed after he was touched by sunlight. Same thing happened in MoS after the World Engine was destroyed so Supes did fight Doomsday at full strength for a portion. That stated: did the motherbox amp him here? It seems like he was brought back at full power and essentially sundipped hence why we see the scene of him flying into space before the final fight with steppy.
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It was moving the water in Atlantis, right?
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Was thinking about this and I think Victor was just tossing out a number to hammer home the point that Diana is really old. Even if we were to take it as an actual figure, it contradicts the backstory of the gods and how Diana only came about after/near the death of the gods and requires Diana to have been a child for millennia before the first invasion happened or somehow have grown up but not experienced any war. That or we throw out WW from the timeline.
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I believe Snyder only takes his three movies into account for the Snyderverse.
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It's weird.
WW1984 is a direct sequel to WW, WW is tied to BVS.
So would WW1984 be snyderverse????
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Nah. WW doesn't contradict anything from SnyderVerse besides the 5000 year old statement (if taken as absolute fact) and was made while Zack still had creative control over the DCEU. 84 on the other hand was made a good bit after he got the axe which auto disqualifies it from his timeline.
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There might be a small contradiction with the end of WW where Diana decides to become a vigilante while in BvS she was stated to have disappeared for a long time but aside from that and the 5000 years old thing, the movie still fits with Snyder's timeline.
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So what happens now? Is someone working on it. Hellbeast told me he made some propositions on another thread I think.
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I looked at the DCEU Superman page, and we don't have justifications for his heat vision being the speed of light. Do we have it reflecting off mirrors, refracting, etc?
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I didn't say that it was assumed. I'm asking so I can attach the reasoning.
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Thank you.
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Out of curiosity, would Batman reacting to Superman's heat vision twice be treated as a feat for a Snyderverse key, or an outlier like how him reacting to Doomsday is currently treated?
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Batman consistently reacts to it so it really should be taken into account. Even DCEU Bats has a decent argument of scaling to those things.
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Heat Vision shouldn't be SoL in the Snydercut version. Relativistic combat speed and Relativistic+ reactions for Wonder Woman is inconsistent with the show. Barry, who is faster than the JL to the point of seeing them in slow motion, doesn't run at near lightspeed or in FTL speeds, that's two rules. Barry running slower than "near lightspeed", and even so seeing Diana in slow motion, disproves her Relativistic+ reactions.
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Relativistic Wonder Woman is from WW84 lassoing natural lightning in succession so it obviously isn't canon to Snyder-cut. After all Snyder Wonder Woman walked away from mankind unlike Jenkins version who kept doing hero work even in public in WW84. Also Jenkins-Woman can fly pretty clearly by the end while Snyder-Woman only seems to have super leaping.
I don't even know if the first WW is canonical to the Snyder-cut considering stuff like killing, ages (800 vs 5000) etc. Like after she didn't kill Doctor Poison, I don't see Jenkins WW ever doing what Snyder version did to those terrorists.
There's also that Aquaman thing with Mera's parents being dead in Snyder-cut when that isn't the case in the Aquaman movie. The trident also world completely differently.
I don't even know if the first WW is canonical to the Snyder-cut considering stuff like killing, ages (800 vs 5000) etc. Like after she didn't kill Doctor Poison, I don't see Jenkins WW ever doing what Snyder version did to those terrorists.
There's also that Aquaman thing with Mera's parents being dead in Snyder-cut when that isn't the case in the Aquaman movie. The trident also world completely differently.
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