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Slay The Princess Page Creation Discussion
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I've added the Tier 2 and 1 stuff.
Looking at the profile we may want to change the layout
In addition I would suggest that we change the order of the keys so they go up rather than down.
Currently its this
If I missed anything please correct it.
Looking at the profile we may want to change the layout
In addition I would suggest that we change the order of the keys so they go up rather than down.
Currently its this
I would recommend the following
That way we're generally moving "Up" in physical power.
I have accidently removed them with the above edit. I have added them back my apologies.
If I missed anything please correct it.
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I want to bring up a topic we haven't discussed yet: stamina.
I know the Echo says something along the lines of "we can only hope that the wounds you inflicted will be enough to kill her" in the Chapter 1 endings where you fight the Princess and lose, but I'm not sure the Princess actually gets fatigued in any of the fights? Do you think we can give her Infinite stamina in all forms?
I know the Echo says something along the lines of "we can only hope that the wounds you inflicted will be enough to kill her" in the Chapter 1 endings where you fight the Princess and lose, but I'm not sure the Princess actually gets fatigued in any of the fights? Do you think we can give her Infinite stamina in all forms?
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The Princess's Stamina is dependent on how the other views her.
I know for the Adversary they literally fight through death wounds because the stubborn refuses to let either die.
So imo I think infinite is fine for all forms, especially because we know the base Princess can wait so long that stones rot without issue, the Multitude can wait and exist for eons without issue and the Shifting Mound when fighting the Long Quiet says that even it takes eternity she'll wear the Long Quiet down since time is meaningless to them.
I know for the Adversary they literally fight through death wounds because the stubborn refuses to let either die.
So imo I think infinite is fine for all forms, especially because we know the base Princess can wait so long that stones rot without issue, the Multitude can wait and exist for eons without issue and the Shifting Mound when fighting the Long Quiet says that even it takes eternity she'll wear the Long Quiet down since time is meaningless to them.
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What in the freak is this?
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Yeah, I don't recall any occasion where the PC is convinced that the Princess is getting tired. She always seems like she's ready for more, except for the occasions where she's been stabbed in the heart and is "dying".
Why are you on this thread if you don't know what Slay the Princess is?
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They afaik. But I agreed that they all should have infinite, since they're based on how someone views her. She'd only not be infinite if you always assumed she could get tired. Since if you think that she can't get tired she'll never get tired.
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I'm so bad.
I meant to say "They don't as far as I know".
They all should be infinite for the reasons I mentioned.
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The Den. She should be later than the Beast I guess? I'm not sure she's more powerful than the Beast, she's just more animalistic.
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We can flip them I guess
After the Beast due to greater size. Though for Nightmare, Adversary and the Beast we may just want to include their Tier 3 forms since they're just bigger versions of their Tier 2 forms.
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The Wild should have a 'higher' rating. If they push their limits even the Narrator can't stop them, and they manage to make the smallest hole in the Construct.
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Sure I guess, but what about my suggestion about key reorganization.
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Are you trying to organize the keys from weak to strong?
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If so it looks fine to me.
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Yeah
I also asked if we should replace "Weaker" Tier 2 Princesses with their Tier 3 version if they don't have more to them: Like Adversary -> The Eye of the Needle / The Nightmare -> The Moment of Clarity / The Beast -> The Den / Witch -> Thorn
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Make's sense.
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Alright, I overhauled the page. If you see anything wrong please correct it.
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That's what the page had her at (I think). But yeah she can be Unknown. Nightmare and the Moment of Clarity might also need to be Unknown as well.
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Meh they still have a physical body unlike Specter, so I don't think there's a reason to assume they became weaker
Also for the weaknesses section, why did you remove key divides?
Also I wonder if the Wild can have fusionism/Absorption, iirc she tries to assimilate you no?
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I figured they'd all have the same weaknesses and strength other than the last forms. So I'm wasn't sure if we should keep like 15 tabs that say the same thing.
I think it would fusionism, since you're still independent and can break out of it if you want to.
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The only issue with this is the Beast/Den substitution, as the Den has significantly lower intelligence than the Beast and shows no real concrete increase in strength or speed over the Beast form.
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That is a good point. The reduced intelligence along with the size change could probably warrant another key.
In addition would this feat be enough to raise Adversary to 9-B? She shatters a stone door in a couple punches.
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We might not even need another key, just note in the Intelligence section "Average as the Beast, Animalistic as the Den". She's very likely in the same class of Large Size too so we don't need another key for the Den, we just need to note the variation between them.
Yeah, it's gotta be 9-B. I can calc that at a later date.
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I've applied that
For now I've made her Wall level and swapped positions with the Beast
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We also probably need a cosmology blog or some explanation for the Tier 2 and 1 rating.
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I'm working on that, just wanted to finish the Princess stuff first.
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So in the Wild path I noticed this statement. Meaning the Witch was actually the one who manipulated the vines/roots of the Wilds. So she can get plant manipulation (really bad plant manipulation since it kills her twice but hey)
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Also what do we do with the Damsel/Prisoner Grey. Give her a key or just through it in with Spectre?
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Going off the common feats references page, smashing the doors in three hits is somewhere between 165,194 to 330,388 joules, ten to twenty times above baseline 9-B.
Edit: miscounted number of digits
Edit 2: I was right the first time, 9-B starts at 15,000, not 150,000. I am too tired to be doing calcs rn lmao.
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Nice.
I also gave the Witch plant manipulation and Nightmare fear manipulation.
The Greys have Fire and Water manipulation but they may need to be their own key I guess.
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The page doesn't specifically mention stone doors but you just gotta replace the fragmentation value with that of stone and it's good to go.
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I did in fact do that. I merely nabbed the volume of the doors off of the references page.
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