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Shades of Red - Decade vs Dante

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This may be a stomp but I'm not really sure. Just gonna throw it onto the wall and see if it sticks.

Magenta Rider vs Crimson Devil Hunter

2-C Complete 21 Form Decade and DMC 5 Dante. Speed equalized. Victory via SBA.

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He starts out with H2H combat, but seeing how Dante has a sword, he will probably summon a sword of his own to fight him with.

He can also use the powers of any previous Kamen Rider or summon them to fight alongside him. He can summon them in their final forms and boosted to his AP level.
 
Half his power can sustain at least 11 Another Worlds. So his base scales to at least 22 universes. However, this is his Complete 21 form which is stronger than his base.
 
Yeah then stomp, AP advantage, hax advantage, resists almost everything Dante has, Reactive power lvl and reactive Evolution further improves his standing,
3rd key right?? Hell even his second key stomps.

Dante is only baseline 2C lol, he has practically no wincons, not even sealing + BFR either.
 
GilverTheProtoAngelo said:
Yeah then stomp, AP advantage, hax advantage, resists almost everything Dante has, Reactive power lvl and reactive Evolution further improves his standing,
3rd key right?? Hell even his second key stomps.

Dante is only baseline 2C lol, he has practically no wincons, not even sealing + BFR either.
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What about passive fear hax
 
Armorchompy said:
Dante can climb above baseline with DT and SDT, right?
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But it will still only be scaled to two space-times, it will only increase scaling chain, while Rider will scale to 11 space-times.

Even speed amp that comes with it is useless since Rider has immeasurable speed, and speed equalised means no speed amps for slower character which is Dante who is only FTL.
 
Slower characters can speed amp, they just cannot blitz. But iirc DT is only x2, right? That's not quite blitz-worthy.
 
Obi2cool4kenobi said:
What about passive fear hax
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Decade resists as well. Not a lot of his base resistances are 4-D though. Off the top of my head those are Reality Warp, EE, Memories Manip, Causality Manip, Power Absorption due to resisting Ridewatch which basically works through stealing the history of the target, delete their identity and villains, change the timeline accordingly.

And technically yes he does have 4-D mindhax resist as well due to Hyper Muteki's Invulnerable being able to resists all the power that Genm God Bullion's can create and have.

Is Dante fear hax 4-D? If so then why is it 4-D?
 
Hyper Muteki itself shouldn't have much problem resisting/Invul through Resistance Neg due to the nature of Genm God's ability to adding new power into himself.

Now is it on all the time?
 
Does it wear off after SDT is off?

Can Dante possibly get passed Decade type 8 that allow him to be resurrected despite being deleted from history and turning into fiction?
 
Nicetoderp said:
Then that's a problem since Decade doesn't start with Hyper Muteki

How would Dante knock out Decade All 20, someone who scale ridiculously above his base?
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If AP is sole requirement then nah, he ain't knocking him out.

If you think lifting strength is enough, then well, Dante has planetary lifting strength.

So 🤷‍♂️
 
Would switching to Grand Zi-O be fairer?
 
Yeah, he has to turn into Hyper Muteki in order to get those resistances.
 
Well, than this is a mismacth.

Dante when is serius have passive emphatic and fear hax that bypass 4D level of resistance and Dante will become serius against him when he senses his powers and seeing that he is much more stronger than him he will become serius very fast.

So if he don't start with Hyper Muteki, than he is gonna get passive fear haxed making this macth a stomp on Dante favor.
 
Pretty sure that Hyper Muteki is a passive ability. Considering how Decade has all the abilities of all 20 Riders, including Ex-aid who’s Hyper Muteki is passive.

So he doesn’t even need to turn into HM to get it’s powers.

Edit: Autocorrect made “is” to “isn’t”
 
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Well, than this is a stomp for him if is true.

Maybe changing to Grand Zi-O like Ovens said could be more fair here?
 
Replacing with Grand Zi-O is pretty much the same thing but on a lesser degree. Zi-O is the same as Decade but is weaker and less experienced.
 
It’s passive. He doesn’t need to transform into Hyper Muteki because he already has Hyper Muteki’s powers.
 
Alright, so, what they said was that he needed to transform into Hyper Muteki to gain its abilities, which would be true if we’re using his second key, but we aren’t. Complete 21 has the power of all 21 Heisei Kamen Rider’s in their final form, which includes Hyper Muteki. He wouldn’t need to transform because he already has it.

Also, there’s no way for Decade to transform into other Riders while in Complete because he’ll just summon them instead. So the whole, he needs to transform into them to gain their powers, things literally cannot be done in C21.
 
I mean this:

And technically yes he does have 4-D mindhax resist as well due to Hyper Muteki's Invulnerable being able to resists all the power that Genm God Bullion's can create and have.
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Then someone else said he needs to give himself another resistance since Dante fear hax bypasses resistance already, that's what I mean
 
That’s Gemn. His whole thing is being able to control laws and concepts to gain abilities and resistances to essentially be god. Yet HM’s invulnerability made it impossible for Gemn to kill him.

The whole thing was that people thought that Decade C21 needed to transform into HM to give himself its powers, which he doesn’t need to.
 
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