Sergio Bonelli Comics Discussion Thread

[SamanPatou]

Tex has always been a staple for Bonelli, the archetype of the perfect hero, and I believe that him being so crystalized doesn't leave space to many changes (although his personality works, as a character). Interesting enough, here in Italy (I don't know if it arrived to Brazil), some years ago a new series has started, featuring a young Tex as the protagonist and it tells his life as an outlaw and how he became the classic heroic character.

Afaik the Bonelli comics are all located in a different reality, but the thing is unclear with those character who met each other (as you said, Martin Mystere and Dyla Dog). I don't think they have really cared that much, as those crossovers were mostly special issues, untied to any particular plot development or world building plan. As you know, most of them are also stuck in the same time period (or just placed a bit further as they did with DD), making it difficult to create a coherent timeline and universe (thing that only a few series do, like Dampyr and Dragonero).

Dylan's verse is also unique, as it featured many other Bonelli characters and even external ones (including Lupo Alberto), but they are more alternate versions of the actual characters.

Speaking of Dampyr, the crossover kinda messed the things up, but according to what was said and what happened, it seems that the same event occurred in both verses, each one introducing its own version of the other character. For example, Boselli, the author of Dampyr, stated that from that moment a version of Dylan Dog exists in the Dampyr universe, but it's not the "real one". And Dampyr himself appeared again and had a role in one of the "recent" DD issues, but he is a counterpart of the regular Dampyr. (I hope I explained myself well).
Dampyr also has its own rules as a verse, because it has a set multiverse (and other stuff) with its own specific laws, and the time flows at the same peace as in real life, as the Earth in Dampyr is intended to be a reflection of the real one with fictional elements in it, and the character grow old, feel the time passing, have to deal with everyday changes and so on. Almost a year ago they even explained that the characters stayed home during the lockdown, while Harlan (the MC) was involved in a multiversal chase with a villain, and due to the different flowing of time, he jumped four months (march to june) while experiencing only a matter of days, and he even did a covid test upon returning (but, as expected, he was negative due to his nature preventing him from being affected by diseases.


And about the television stuff, there are plan to initiate a "Bonelli Cinematic Universe" (official and goofy name), starting with a movie about the first two issues of Dampyr and a TV series on Dylan Dog, but little else is known for possible crossovers or a shared reality.

 

[EliminatorVenom]

Oooh, that happened here too! I still haven't had the opportunity to read those, but I'm eager to see it.

Oh, I get it! Several different realities, each with their own versions of characters that exist on their own series, possibly crossing over with the actual "prime" versions at times, at least that's what I understood. That's also a cool bit about Harlan, many characters in Bonelli's works do seem to be stuck in time (Tex only had one notable timeskip, but granted, it was a very significant one) and Zagor didn't have any, I think.

That's interesting. I hope the films and series do justice to their original material. I'm curious on how they'd take care of some of Dylan's craziest stuff. The Horror is a story that I really don't know how people would react to.

 

[SamanPatou]

Oh, I get it! Several different realities, each with their own versions of characters that exist on their own series, possibly crossing over with the actual "prime" versions at times, at least that's what I understood. That's also a cool bit about Harlan, many characters in Bonelli's works do seem to be stuck in time (Tex only had one notable timeskip, but granted, it was a very significant one) and Zagor didn't have any, I think.

Pretty much this, DD is the only that seems to have its own versions of Julia, Martyn Mystere (even though he apparently met even the "prime") and the "Dampyr Trio" (Harlan, Kurjak and Tesla) as well as some more, but without a consistency (the verse itself is rather inconsistent due to its own nature).

The Dampyr verse also has pretty much assimilated its own versions of Dylan and Groucho, but that was a solution to explain this crossover without breaking the strict laws that exist within in the verse regarding alternate realities and such, while DD doesn't have to care about it.

 

[SamanPatou]

Vampires keep dodging bullets from close distance. (And this was a a human inside a master vampire's body who had little experience with it, and was stated to move slower than true vampires)

 

[EliminatorVenom]

That's great! Coincidentally, I've been reading some comics that Zagor fights a vampire: Baron Bela Rakosi, with plenty of references to hungarian culture. Zagor may have some Mind Resistance, too; he has some feats in that sense.

 

[EliminatorVenom]

Chico completely fended off several surprise attacks from a vampire without even knowing what was happening out of sheer clumsiness and dumb luck. I love that dude.

 

[SamanPatou]

Ultra Instinct Chico, ready to battle 100% UI Shaggy.

 

[EliminatorVenom]

I hope I get to make some more Bonelli protagonists' pages. One question I always wondered when I was a kid was who would win between Zagor and Tex.

So far, I haven't gotten to the point that Zagor has some really crazy feats (Which he has), so it's unclear. He is already clearly physically stronger (Zagor managed to overpower a very strong ape that was explicity beyond any normal human, and routinely does things such as overpowering jaguars and stuff) and more agile, but seems to be much slower and less skilled. The speed part I know will be remedied in later issues, Zagor has some really good speed feats, but I do think Tex is more skilled. As a kid, I predicted that Zagor would win in hand-to-hand, Tex would win at a distance, but we'll see.

We shall make an epic battle between all Bonelli protagonists. I must say that for now, Dylan seems to be unkillable and Harlan way stronger than anyone, lol

 

[EliminatorVenom]

I noticed that most Bonelli protagonists can shrug off extensive and serious torture, often without even manifesting obvious signs of pain. Or, when manifesting, they keep themselves in control to not make any noise or do anything significant. Is that Resistance to Pain or merely Pain Tolerance?

It's notable because, reading Zagor and Tex comics, they often can keep fighting even under extreme pain, and they often sustain hours of torture without making any noise or breaking, despite being in extreme pain.

 

[Armorchompy]

both pain tolerance and stamina yeah

 

[SamanPatou]

I hope I get to make some more Bonelli protagonists' pages. One question I always wondered when I was a kid was who would win between Zagor and Tex.

So far, I haven't gotten to the point that Zagor has some really crazy feats (Which he has), so it's unclear. He is already clearly physically stronger (Zagor managed to overpower a very strong ape that was explicity beyond any normal human, and routinely does things such as overpowering jaguars and stuff) and more agile, but seems to be much slower and less skilled. The speed part I know will be remedied in later issues, Zagor has some really good speed feats, but I do think Tex is more skilled. As a kid, I predicted that Zagor would win in hand-to-hand, Tex would win at a distance, but we'll see.

We shall make an epic battle between all Bonelli protagonists. I must say that for now, Dylan seems to be unkillable and Harlan way stronger than anyone, lol

I mean, Tex has guns and iirc they aren't in Zagor's standard equipment, so it may make the fight unfair, but Zagor has some superhuman physical capabilities that would triumph over Tex, I think

Harlan isn't really that strong by himself, he wouldn't be able to overpower apes like Zagor does. He is within human levels, with just superhuman reaction speed and a lot of resistances to mind hax and such. He becomes broken when he turns into a Master of the Night (which doesn't happen very often and can't do it by himself) as he obtains a shitton of mind haxes, shape and sizeshifting, immortality, super stats and so on added to his normal abilities.

The whole point of the character is that he is within human levels and despite being a vampire bane, he often needs help from friends, new allies or just luck to survive against super vampires, and he is almost powerless against bulletproof superhuman monsters, who would win in a physical confrontation.

I noticed that most Bonelli protagonists can shrug off extensive and serious torture, often without even manifesting obvious signs of pain. Or, when manifesting, they keep themselves in control to not make any noise or do anything significant. Is that Resistance to Pain or merely Pain Tolerance?

It's notable because, reading Zagor and Tex comics, they often can keep fighting even under extreme pain, and they often sustain hours of torture without making any noise or breaking, despite being in extreme pain.

I noticed it even with Harlan, he is used at getting stabbed or impaled in non-vital spots and having broken bones and still managing to fight or at least react to some extent. He also survived a all-night long torture by a superpowered serial killer, and it was stated that a normal human would have died from that.
There are also a couple of statements of a main villain who says that it would take centuries of torture to bend his will. And his super willpowere is confirmed by other stuff, like he can't be possessed because his will would overwrite that of the invader and absorb his personality.

I think Harlan shares some similarities due to Boselli (his creator) having been a fan of Tex for fourty years or such, having extensively worked with Gianluigi Bonelli and being the current head writer of Tex since 2012. And he has also written many stories for Zagor too.

 

[EliminatorVenom]

I mean, Tex has guns and iirc they aren't in Zagor's standard equipment, so it may make the fight unfair, but Zagor has some superhuman physical capabilities that would triumph over Tex, I think

Zagor does usually have a revolver and is quite good at it, but yeah, he really cannot compare to Tex skill-wise in using guns.

Harlan isn't really that strong by himself, he wouldn't be able to overpower apes like Zagor does. He is within human levels, with just superhuman reaction speed and a lot of resistances to mind hax and such. He becomes broken when he turns into a Master of the Night (which doesn't happen very often and can't do it by himself) as he obtains a shitton of mind haxes, shape and sizeshifting, immortality, super stats and so on added to his normal abilities.

The whole point of the character is that he is within human levels and despite being a vampire bane, he often needs help from friends, new allies or just luck to survive against super vampires, and he is almost powerless against bulletproof superhuman monsters, who would win in a physical confrontation.

Oooh, interesting! I thought he had the statistics of a vampire. I stand corrected!

I noticed it even with Harlan, he is used at getting stabbed or impaled in non-vital spots and having broken bones and still managing to fight or at least react to some extent. He also survived a all-night long torture by a superpowered serial killer, and it was stated that a normal human would have died from that.
There are also a couple of statements of a main villain who says that it would take centuries of torture to bend his will. And his super willpowere is confirmed by other stuff, like he can't be possessed because his will would overwrite that of the invader and absorb his personality.

I think Harlan shares some similarities due to Boselli (his creator) having been a fan of Tex for fourty years or such, having extensively worked with Gianluigi Bonelli and being the current head writer of Tex since 2012. And he has also written many stories for Zagor too.

That's very awesome. Bonelli protagonists in general seem to have a lot of willpower. A very good addition to profiles.

Soon, I'll share here some Zagor feats that I find really interesting.

 

[EliminatorVenom]

It took a long time (End-of-term of my university's period and general lack of drive to do stuff), but I'm finishing Zagor's profile. For now there's only feats from the "first" series, so to speak, so it's gonna lack some of his more absurd moments, but it's cool. I've returned to read Bonelli comics and I expect to be more dilligent about uploading it than before! A strange thing about Zagor in particular, at least when comparing to Tex, is that he feels both stronger and weaker, as in, his high points are higher, but his low points are lower.

Tex is consistently of a level, and while he of course has his moments of being better or worse, they feel more "natural", not too different from his average. Zagor, however, varies from having his stuff kicked in from four people at once in a way that not even Tex is and having difficulties with half a dozen or less gunmen, to actively beating out bears and jaguars without a scratch in melee and just doing herculean feats (In particular, there's one moment that he KOs a dude that swings a tree trunk around. To be fair, even Zagor was stunned at this, but still). Tex is also certainly a lot more skilled and thoughtful, and seems like much more stoic and, say, resistant to pain and adversity, while Zagor has the greater "raw stuff" - He has much better education and knows more stuff than Tex, and has a much better body, but he can't apply those as well as Tex, lacks experience and the psyche that Tex has. Of course, Tex is considerably older and I am comparing a later portrayal of Tex to an early one of Zagor, but from what I see of some peeks of way later editions, that theme does seem to stay.

Which reminds me, it is difficult to classify Bonelli characters' speed, at least Tex and Zagor. Both of them consistently evade bullets and stuff, but at the same time, simply slapping Supersonic on them feels wrong, they are consistently tagged by normal people and they just don't feel like Matrix-ish in their interactions with the world. Granted, they are rarely tagged by slower people, but it is still noticeable.

Perhaps something to note that Supersonic would be the higher end... Idk.

In any case, sorry for the bit of rambling, but I missed this thread, lol, I miss dicussing Bonelli

 

[Armorchompy]

Dodging bullets, especially bullets from revolvers, almost never yields Supersonic, it's likely gonna be in the Subsonic range, possibly even the lower ends of it depending on the feats.

But I absolutely don't mind the rambling, I love to hear this stuff actually

 

[SamanPatou]

I've also been extremely busy recently with university-related stuff and I totally cannot afford to fail this time, reason why I spend most of my day on books. And to read comics, especially Dampyr, I need to be focused, have about an hour to spend on it, be in the right mood and have the head clear, otherwise I don't fully enjoy them. I also need to read them in some specific parts of the day, for how overly complex it seems I need all those elements.

I also think your analysises are always interesting to read, mainly because you break the characters down to different points of the series, higher and lower demonstrations and so on.

If they dodge bullets and perform other reaction feats it's not even that strange to see them tagged by slower characters, especially in certain situations. Reacting to something requires a certain degree of awareness, concentration, freedom of movement and so on, especially if they don't dodge bullets as easy as Dragon Ball characters or similar superhuman people do.

 

[Armorchompy]

Also I might be able to calculate the trunk swing, should give results in the 9-C but superhuman range, maybe low 9-B

 

[EliminatorVenom]

Aaaand here it is! It took a long time and I'll need to polish it plenty before I'm satisfied, but eh, it's a fine first draft.

Also, thank you guys for the patience, for liking the analysis (I do love to ramble about) and for also being hype about this, as much as I am!

About the tree swing, the feat's here. Some notable Zagor feats that may be calc worthy are those three bullet dodges here (that in particular, as those are winchester bullets, I think), this and this.

I've also been extremely busy recently with university-related stuff and I totally cannot afford to fail this time, reason why I spend most of my day on books. And to read comics, especially Dampyr, I need to be focused, have about an hour to spend on it, be in the right mood and have the head clear, otherwise I don't fully enjoy them. I also need to read them in some specific parts of the day, for how overly complex it seems I need all those elements.

Oh yeah, I feel ya. I have the same regarding most of the fiction stuff that I read. That is why I tend to read/play about twenty things at the same time, and progress slowly at all of them. Rather than focusing on one thing, I feel much better by playing and reading a lot of different stuff at the same time. It is hard enough for me already to read Zagor comics in order, I feel very tempted to jump straight to the crazy stuff, but it is good for me to discipline myself in this regard, at least. I'm finally getting some references in Zagor comics that I didn't know before, lol.

 

[Armorchompy]

Yeah, all of those look like they'd dip into Subsonic+. I'll calculate them eventually

 

[SamanPatou]

It looks gorgeous now, you did an amazing job!

I feel like a CRT would have been required to add all those things, but considering the profile has basically been made anew we can get over it.

However, next time it would be needed, as we can't break the rules more than a few, special occasions like this.

Finally, as all scans in Tex and Zagor's profiles are in portuguese, you should make a blog where you gather said scans, you copy-paste the original text under them and you add the english translation you suggest. There is no hurry, don't worry.

This because profiles can't contain, or at least not totally, scans in a language different from english.

I made a thread some time ago to settle things for us and anyone who will make profiles for verses that have not been officially translated in english, and using one or more blogs was the solution.

The only scans that don't have to be put in a blog are those that don't require reading them to be comprehended, like them swinging people around and such.

 

[SamanPatou]

Also, profiles from multi-issues series such as comic books should feature a references list for each scan, in order to mark where do they come from in terms of specific issues and numbers. This was discussed in this and other threads, and its getting slowly applied to comic book characters and similar, such as Venom and Bullseye.

It's a lot of work, but it can be done overtime and will improve the reliability of our pages, which are already "special" when compared to others, as they are "foreign material".

 

[EliminatorVenom]

Also, profiles from multi-issues series such as comic books should feature a references list for each scan, in order to mark where do they come from in terms of specific issues and numbers. This was discussed in this and other threads, and its getting slowly applied to comic book characters and similar, such as Venom and Bullseye.

It's a lot of work, but it can be done overtime and will improve the reliability of our pages, which are already "special" when compared to others, as they are "foreign material".

I totally agree, that is a great change! In fact, in my respect threads/sandboxes, I do assign the issue and version, it should be simple work to transfer everything.

The only tedious thing would be to open every single scan and translate the stuff within, but oh well... Better than nothing, I suppose! I need to think of a compact way to do so, or to do a lot of blog posts... I'll start working on it tomorrow. Thanks, dude! ^-^

I'll try to limit myself to the more important stuff that has the most text, as most scans are pretty explicit (Like Zagor breaking a fence by kicking a dude into it), because otherwise I'd take a load of time doing everything.

 

[EliminatorVenom]

Btw, I really wish I could make some matches with Tex and Zagor after I finish translating some of the bits, but sadly, the ideas I had in mind (Red Dead Redemption fellas) are all significantly stronger and much faster than they are...

I wonder if it would be possible to hold a marksmanship contest between Arthur Morgan and Tex... In fact, I am tempted to do a lot more, but one step at a time!

 

[SamanPatou]

The only tedious thing would be to open every single scan and translate the stuff within, but oh well... Better than nothing, I suppose! I need to think of a compact way to do so, or to do a lot of blog posts... I'll start working on it tomorrow. Thanks, dude! ^-^

I'll try to limit myself to the more important stuff that has the most text, as most scans are pretty explicit (Like Zagor breaking a fence by kicking a dude into it), because otherwise I'd take a load of time doing everything.

I know, it can be tedious but it's necessary, the fact that handling not-english verses was in a grey area is the reason I made that thread, to avoid any possible issue.

Even characters from Mortebianca were recently questioned for this reason, and having a blog were place and translate scans is what saved them from deletion.

 

[EliminatorVenom]

Perfectly understandable, and frankly, that is the ideal thing. Profiles should be easily understandable and, with multi-issue work, it is very easy to give feats without context or missing stuff. That has been the cause for some, if not most, of the wrong ratings I've seen before.

Looking back at Tex's profile, I think I forgot to take some scans that should be added... It's weird so many things that I didn't even know were powers in the wiki actually are.

Tex should have Information Analysis (Just by looking at someone, he can identify if they are trustworthy and if they are hiding something. Usually, I wouldn't consider that, but it is an explicit trait of his that is remarked several times, and he does seem to be abnormally good at it. Even people who have a lifetime of experience tricking and acting are pretty much instantly "revealed" to be bad by Tex. As Tex himself put it, he has "a sixth sense for tracking scum", lol), Pressure Points (Not to a big degree, but he can disarm people with casual hits to their wrist, and if I'm not mistaken, can KO other dudes with simple taps), Social Influencing (To quite an impressive degree actually. He has a lot of clout with the U.S. military, with many native tribes and towns. He governs his own tribe, which is one of the strongest, managed to actually start and win an Indian War without a single casuality out of sheer skill with politics, tactics, scheming and strategy. He has contacts with several other countries, most notably Canada and Mexico, and has even some contact with supernatural entities) and Damage Reduction (Not explicit but in combat he is shown to roll with punches and let strikes "flow" through him with less resistance so to reduce their damage). He should also have Enhanced Senses, but I don't remember any specific examples. I'm pretty sure he can track people perfectly well in pitch darkness when normal people can't see anything ahead of them, and he can hear some very far-off stuff.

Zagor also should have Acrobatics. (Not to the level of those wuxia characters or guys that can ignore the laws of physics and kinectics, but he does fight in impossibly acrobatic ways. I even have a scan of him landing on the ground from a fall, and instantly making a dropkick using only one hand to balance himself)

 

[SamanPatou]

I love to see all these "grounded" abilities, which are actually true but totally ignored by fiction in general. I mean, Bonelli comics, and Tex specifically from what I read, manage to stay on a fundamentally realistic level but "enhancing" it at the same time, I don't know how to express that properly.

Like, characters that are skilled and intelligent in a more precise and "pushed to the limit" way because the authors try to take the best from without trespassing some limits, resulting in these skills and the feats being clever and more specific than what you generally see in fiction, without going to impossible extremes or just ignoring some realistic laws for plot sake.

Once again I didn't explain it properly, but the best way I think it would be "ordinary men that do extraordinary things".

I'm particularly surprised by that form of Damage Reduction because I only have seen it in Vinland Saga, when Thorfinn does something like that (I don't thinks it's a coincidente the fact that I love that manga, for how well it is written).

 

[EliminatorVenom]

I feel ya. I really love those kinds of abilities, they add very much to the realism and combat of the setting. It's part of the appeal I feel from manga like Baki and Kengan Ashura, even if they are more exaggerated concepts. That makes combat so much more interesting and appealing that I simply can't bring myself not to love it.

I knew that power existed only because I visited Thorfinn's page, lol

It should be more common, though. Of course, Thorfinn does it remarkably well and under pressure that is simply impossible for a human being to do, in fact I'd argue that it is impossible to do it so well. But the act of rolling with attacks is common practice among martial artists in real life. I don't consider myself a particularly good one, but even I was taught to do so in boxing, and in fiction we can actively see guys from Baki, Kengan, Ippo and more martially-oriented works to do so.

In fact, it brings me to a point I may discuss in a blog post in the future, about what constitutes as a power or not and their boundaries... Like, almost anyone that does any form of martial arts or has any real melee combat experience, even if limited to brawling and really rough stuff, should have something like Pressure Points in their profile, as hitting those is essential to KOing people. The chin is a pressure point, for example, and one that is commonly used in almost any system to KO someone.

I know that the profiles mostly consider the application of pressure points as it is more commonly portrayed in media, as almost magical points in the body that can do some weird stuff (Granted, they do exist, but their effects are exaggerated), but it is an interesting thing to consider nonetheless.

But back on topic, yeah, both Tex and Zagor should have such skills. Still haven't got to the point that Zagor demonstrates that very explicitly, but considering one of the upcoming story arcs I'll be reading is a boxing one, I'd be very surprised if I didn't see it. I'll soon be doing some more Zagor profiles once I finish translating the stuff on his profile.

A bit off-topic, but I love to see how much I can learn from reading those. Not so much Zagor, as it is very exaggerated, but Tex has really taught me a lot of western stuff that is actually true when I went to research it.

 

[Armorchompy]

Tex should have Information Analysis (Just by looking at someone, he can identify if they are trustworthy and if they are hiding something. Usually, I wouldn't consider that, but it is an explicit trait of his that is remarked several times, and he does seem to be abnormally good at it. Even people who have a lifetime of experience tricking and acting are pretty much instantly "revealed" to be bad by Tex. As Tex himself put it, he has "a sixth sense for tracking scum", lol)

I don't mean to take the wind out of your sails but I do believe this is a bit too weak to qualify as Info Analysis, it's mostly an intelligence feat imo

Social Influencing (To quite an impressive degree actually. He has a lot of clout with the U.S. military, with many native tribes and towns. He governs his own tribe, which is one of the strongest, managed to actually start and win an Indian War without a single casuality out of sheer skill with politics, tactics, scheming and strategy. He has contacts with several other countries, most notably Canada and Mexico, and has even some contact with supernatural entities)

Having clout is kinda removed in vs matches so we don't include reputation in social influencing.

Damage Reduction (Not explicit but in combat he is shown to roll with punches and let strikes "flow" through him with less resistance so to reduce their damage)

I'd call this one limited damage reduction, everything else looks good

 

[SamanPatou]

If the sixth sense thing is consistent, maybe it could be considered enhanced senses.

I forgot clout was banned even from Powers&Abilities section, but being skilled in politics and strategy on a manipulative way should count.

 

[EliminatorVenom]

I don't mean to take the wind out of your sails but I do believe this is a bit too weak to qualify as Info Analysis, it's mostly an intelligence feat imo

I'd usually agree. In Tex's specific case it is an explicit ability of his, at least how it is portrayed. Also, no worries, I'm wondering more than actually thinking of applying it. I really appreciate you guys are here to help with that!

Having clout is kinda removed in vs matches so we don't include reputation in social influencing.

Oh, I thought it was included. I'll notify when I find profiles that have political influence listed in Social Influencing, because I can guarantee that I've seen some examples that had. Good info to know.

I'd call this one limited damage reduction, everything else looks good

Yeah, it is a really limited form. To be honest, I'd rather consider it a martial arts feat rather than damage reduction, but consensus seems to be that it is a form of damage reduction...

 

[Armorchompy]

I'd usually agree. In Tex's specific case it is an explicit ability of his, at least how it is portrayed. Also, no worries, I'm wondering more than actually thinking of applying it. I really appreciate you guys are here to help with that!

I see, might be legit, then.

Yeah, it is a really limited form. To be honest, I'd rather consider it a martial arts feat rather than damage reduction, but consensus seems to be that it is a form of damage reduction...

You can note it under Martial Arts in P&A or the intelligence section of the profile, I think it works well in either of those if you prefer.

 

[EliminatorVenom]

Translated most of the stuff on Zagor's profile that does need text! I'll note however that I translated only the text that is necessary to understand the feat/explains the feat. Some feats have text on them but that really doesn't add much to the feat itself as they contain plot-relevant or general statements, and I ignored those. If you guys want, I can attempt to translate the rest of it later.

There's some stuff missing too from the intelligence section and one or two tidbits in the AP/durability ones, but I think that the P&A section is pretty much covered. Of course, I can always translate more if needed.

 

[SamanPatou]

Nice, I don't think that unrelated text is needed.

Also, good formula, I'll be happy to copy it.

 

[EliminatorVenom]

Feel free to, I like to organize things a lot. I could do better but oh well, that is good enough.

I'll finish the second Zagor series published soon, I hope, and with it, I'll feel more confident to tackle some other remarkable profiles. Bela Rakosi and Supermike in particular I'm eager to, Hellingen will have to wait since he is a very special case. Chico is doable already (And he has the greatest durability feats thanks to his toonforce, ironically), and I'll soon be making too some smaller Zagor villains, from isolated arcs.

It is weird to compare him to Tex in this department. Tex has way less notable, recurring antagonists because he usually gives the Punisher treatment to them: Most villains simply die or are incarcerated for good in the first issues that they appear. Zagor, however, has much looser bounds because the characters often ignore realism, and he is considerably more merciful than Tex is.

I'll try to make some Tex profiles too, but I'll need to finish translating the stuff on his profile.

Also, I wanna ask you guys, do you have any idea on how to structure the Bonelli universe page? I'd gladly make a sandbox for it, and if need be, structure it too. I'm a bit doubtful on whether make a Bonelli universe page or a page for each individual series...

 

[Armorchompy]

My verse page-making skills are honestly embarassing, I couldn't help you there.

 

[SamanPatou]

I think it's better to have a shared verse page, as Bonelli itself refers to their characters as belonging to the "Bonelliverse" (which doesn't exists within the comics and it's an embarassing name and it will not be the name of the verse page).

But more than that, I think it's better even to have all of the covered by the same editor page, with a clear description that also enhances their identity.

For summaries, power of the verse and such we can use tabber.

I can start make a draft in one of ny sandboxes and update that overtime.

 

[EliminatorVenom]

Excellent. Once you do make it, link it here! I'd love to see your progress.

 

[SamanPatou]

I made the draft.

I've tried to include the most important stuff in the summary, without being too long but not spare detail either.

I also made something unconventional, with the first section being for "main heroes" despite them belonging to different series.

This to enhanced their appearance as the icons (even though they are only 4), using artworks that have been recently made as covers to have them all match with each other (I just added the logo of their series over their head).

 

[EliminatorVenom]

OH JESUS, THAT LOOKS GORGEOUS!

Mind if I take the information presented and general template for another wikia of mine? I really love how you put the stuff there!

That gave me a whole new boost of incentive to work in this.

 

[Armorchompy]

hell yeah that looks good. should i show twellas on discord?

 

[SamanPatou]

OH JESUS, THAT LOOKS GORGEOUS!

Mind if I take the information presented and general template for another wikia of mine? I really love how you put the stuff there!

That gave me a whole new boost of incentive to work in this.

Thank you, I'm glad you like it.

You can totally take it, I mostly took informations from Italian Wikipedia and the official site, with the latter having a "history" page, which has not been translated to english yet, I believe, or at least it doesn't load properly on the english version of the website.

These are the other thematic . covers, I made some basic cropping and rendering to adapt them, then I slapped each logo.png over them. Someone more skilled than me would surely have been able to make something better.

hell yeah that looks good. should i show twellas on discord?

Sure