Selvaria Bles vs Weiss Schnee

[Naberius_Buster]

Selvaria one shots a Gallian Light Tank (11.2 tons) so hard that the kinetic energy lifts it off the ground before exploding it, yet Weiss couldn't down the Paladin with multiple hits. Selvaria seems to win in combat against armored vehicles, which would imply she has the upper hand here. How much does the Paladin weigh anyway?

Weiss needs to use glyphs just to match Selvaria's base speed. That is bad considering Weiss only has so much ammo to use, and she won't have a kit made up entirely of speed boosting dust.

Why are we bringing up Selvaria missing when Weiss will also have trouble fighting a near peer opponent speed wise (at least with the glyphs in effect)? Selvaria has always had amazing pin point accuracy and sweeping her beam would only increase her chances of tagging Weiss.

Selvaria also has a better type of durability in a war of attrition (scales to Alicia no selling the Marmota's artillery bombardment without blocking it all with the shield) supported by a better version of Regenerationn, vs Weiss's limited Aura reserves, where every single hit will have an effect.

Who has Weiss one shot that is equal to or better than Selvaria? I want to see some examples of people or things in seasons 1 through 3 that could easily take her.

Weiss also typically fights as part of a team, while Selvaria is capable of destroying her opponents without backup.

 

[Kaltias]

@Nab

The system used on this wiki is based on energy for the most part. Weiss scales from characters with 1,4 tons of TNT feats, while Selvaria scales above the Marmota's 0,7 tons weapons.

Selvaria also doesn't scale from Alicia (although she'd definitely obliterate the Marmota if she wanted to anyway)

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Naberius Comparing the tank to a paladin is comparing apples to oranges. Sel scales to a .7 ton feat while weiss scales to a a 1.41 ton feat. I can try to a calc the paladin though rough estimate places it at around class 100.

Weiss doesnt need to St to a boost her speed, she does so with glyphs

Numerically weiss is more durable and she has three different kinds of forcefields she can use to block attacks

Most moderately powerful grimm are stronger than sel, and weiss scales to people who can stop people stronger than sel

No actually, weiss has plenty of solo fights, she's entirely capable of fighting 1v1

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Weiss has multiple methods of freezing sel solid, and she has healing on top of her Regenerationn

 

[Kepekley23]

Seems like Vol 3 Ruby has a feat I missed that could be an upgrade

After Roman's tragic death, she kicks a Griffon and blasts a relatively large hole on the ship

https://youtu.be/pT1XiUbJu_Y?t=535

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Kep Calc it my dude

 

[Kaltias]

Weiss has multiple methods of freezing sel solid, and she has healing on top of her Regenerationn

She doesn't when Selvaria literally radiates flames (which she does).

Weiss' healing is like, the equivalent of Low regen.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

When three of her methods are via energy projectiles and one isncontact based yes she does

Healing is still healine

 

[Kaltias]

I'm... not getting your point. She radiates heat, and heat melts ice.

It isn't a real factor when it's literally a worse version of her own regen tho

 

[WeeklyBattles]

The point is the projectiles arent ice and have consistently been able to hold characters stronger than sel without them being able to break out on their own

Healing is healing

 

[Kaltias]

Yes but the projectiles can be shot down mid air, and holding people stronger than Selvaria isn't that relevant when she isn't trying to break it, but rather melt it

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Actually they cant, they go through obstacles and enemies

 

[Kaltias]

The Ice dust projectiles? Since when? As soon as they hit someone/something, they create a bunch of ice.

Also they can be like, dodged

 

[WeeklyBattles]

No not the ice dust projectiles, her Barrage attack

Its Its a homing attack so no it cant

 

[Kaltias]

Being homing doesn't mean that the attack is undodgeable. Even more so when the speed gap exist.

And even if we say that Selvaria gets frozen she can just unfreeze herself

 

[Theglassman12]

Selvaria emits heat. That alone allows her to break out of the ice easily.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Is Sel Hypersonic+ in movement speed or just combat speed?

She cant unfreeze herself from restraint glyphs or an anti gravity field

 

[Kaltias]

Both.

Good thing that Weiss leads with ice I guess. Also, anti-gravity? Weiss' glyphs are used to force people to stand on the ground

 

[Theglassman12]

@Weekly when has she ever started off with anti gravity?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Kal My dude, really? You dont remember this?

 

[Schnee_One]

Bump again.

 

[Kaltias]

Might want to put this on hold because if the 0.5 tons calc gets accepted, Selvaria is definitely going to be High 8-C due to how hilariously above it she is

 

[Schnee_One]

 

[Kepekley23]

Is she quantifiably above it or just casually so?

 

[CursedGentleman]

by the way, someone should fix Welkin AP reasoning

"Street level to Small Building level depending on the weapons equipped in his tank"

while said tank is "9-C to 8-C"

 

[Kaltias]

Is she quantifiably above it or just casually so?

Selvaria (Impervious to any attack) >>> Marmota (Outclasses the Batomys in every conceivable way, only damaged by Valkyrur weaponry) >>> Batomys (Immune to AT weaponry unless already critically damaged) >>> Lupus (Literally an enhanced tank destroyer superior in every category) >>> Tank Destroyer (Obliterates heavy tanks) >>> Heavy Tank (Far superior to medium tanks) >>> Medium Tank (Far superior to light tanks) >>> Light Tank (Takes no damage from mortars) >>> Mortar (The feat calced)

This is the calc btw

 

[Kaltias]

Closing this given that it will be an AP stomp soon