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Does this count as an intelligence feat or just a quality of their abilites?
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Some intelligence feats for She-Hulk:
General
General
- Graduated Summa Cum Laude
- Outdrinks Blizzard in order to avoid a fight
- Uses a Hex placed on her by Scarlet Witch that makes her invisible to people who want to harm her to steal the Infinity Gem from Titania
- Wins a court case that was rigged against her
- Faces bias due to her superhero-ing
- Defends Dark Art by pointing out the arresting officer performed an illegal search
- Lays a strong defense for villain Jonathan Powers but does lose the case.
- Backs down Superior Spider-Man with the threat of lawsuits
- Defeats Matt Murdock in the trial of Captain America
- Prevents Luke Cage from selling the Mighty Avengers name by writing safeguards into the contract
- Tricks The Seeker into crushing himself
- Causes a pair of robots to crash into each other
- Sees through Mysterio's tricks
- Wraps her fists in insulation to KO Electro
- Sets The Ranger and Boomerang against each other
- Sneaks out of a Shield prison by changing back to Jennifer Walters
- Convinces The Champion to remove his Infinity Gem due to it qualifying as a weapon under Skardon Law
- Uses Electro to defeat Tiger Shark. She similarly used Powderkeg to defeat Rhino
- Avoids destroying a passenger plane by transforming back into Jennifer Walters
- Tricks Abomination into lowering his guard by belittling him
- Leads several Red-Hulk soldiers to fight each other
- Uses a robots raygun to destroy its companion
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Grey Hulk intelligence feat:
(Incredible Hulk #350). He mentioned that he couldn't beat amped Thing in a straight up brawl , so he used his speed to wear Thing out. Then Joe used Things weight against him by making Thing fall in a lake and then sinking to the bottom, drowning Thing in the processes . And as Thing dragged himself from the lake, out of breath and worn out, Joe was already there waiting to finish Thing off.
(Incredible Hulk #350). He mentioned that he couldn't beat amped Thing in a straight up brawl , so he used his speed to wear Thing out. Then Joe used Things weight against him by making Thing fall in a lake and then sinking to the bottom, drowning Thing in the processes . And as Thing dragged himself from the lake, out of breath and worn out, Joe was already there waiting to finish Thing off.
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I do not understand the context for this being intelligence feats.
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Which one do you think should be used? And what rating does it give her?
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Maybe these ones, but I am uncertain about some of them, as I haven't read through them and am only going by memory. Anyway, it should be sufficient to note that she is an extremely skilled lawyer, a quick-thinking inventive combattant, and a very good negotiator. It is still just Gifted intelligence though, which she already has.
If you wish, you can list the examples in an intelligence feats section for her.[/list]
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Are you referring to Miyama or Kuroko?
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Kuroko, but I need to add more images to give more context
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Okay, but it feels like it's going to be Extraordinary Genius via calculations only. The calculation is entirely separate from general intelligence and combat intelligence.
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If referring to Shirai. I think this would either be high-level Genius or Extraordinary Genius, but via calculations, considering that this processing power is used for the 11th-dimension calculations in order to teleport.
I don't know how intelligent she is normally, but based on the current information provided in the page, this could be rated separately.
I don't know how intelligent she is normally, but based on the current information provided in the page, this could be rated separately.
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The texts that are available in the profile that could be used to support the rating would be:
- as a Level 4 esper her intelligence is on the level of a genius or a supercomputer
- teleportation powers are much more calculation-intensive than other powers
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Here is a feat of UIharu:
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All of these occasions seem fine to mention in a feats section list for intelligence.
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Although, is there nothing to say about what rating they would get?
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Although is that from reading through all the feats listed above? I also wouldn't mind getting a take from @Just_a_Random_Butler
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Okay, I'm just a little surprised that she's still considered gifted despite the quantity of feats listed
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These are some skill based though for her:
Accuracy
Acrobatics
Dodging
Accuracy
Acrobatics
- Uses a light to pole vault up onto a highway
- Recovers from an Iron Man blast and uses a light pole to redirect himself back into him
- Crosses the city on rooftops
- Juggles a priceless vase through traffic
- Rappels off the side of the Helicarrier
- While falling, teaches Lyra how to maximize her momentum to fall onto her target "like a missile"
- Falls off a building and rights herself to land on her feet. Gray She-Hulk
Dodging
- Avoids a charging Iron Man
- Dodges a blast from The Seeker
- Leaps over a signpost attack from Man Elephant
- Dodges Mjolnir
- Hops over a rocket
- Dodges shots from several Toad Men
- Dodges a strike from Blacklash which causes him to wrap up Whirlwind
- Dodges a Skrull laser
- Sidesteps Iron Man
- Ducks a blast from Psychoman
- Dodges a tailstrike from a giant beast Gray She-Hulk
- Defeats both the Gemini at once. The Gemini were fast enough to defeat several armed guards at once
- Keeps Thor busy in a one on one fight
- Dunks Captain Britain
- Pushes away a punch from a giant robot
- Redirects a diving kick from Abominatrix
- Trained by Gamora
- Clowns Abomination
- Parries a thrown car with a light pole
- Completely goons Iron Man
- Instructs Hellcat on how to take down stronger opponents
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Here are also some regular Hulk intelligence feats:
Bruce Banner's intelligence is unquestionable. So the Hulk is dumb, right? Not really. Banner's genius actually bleeds into his Hulk personas in ways that are much more subtle than when it emerged outright during his Professor Hulk phase. The Leader hypothesizes, "I had always failed to remember that under that mass of strength was an equally powerful mind. It couldn't speak. But it was always there." From Fall of the Hulks Alpha #1:
This isn't a novel development. This undercurrent of intelligence emerged numerous times throughout the decades of his history. Here, it's noted, "And then, somewhere in that bestial, clouded brain -- a dim spark that is Bruce Banner suddenly shines thru -- without really knowing why -- without conscious motivation -- guided by an inexplicable, intuitive urge, the Hulk successfully completes the most vital leap of his entire life-- !" From way back in Tales to Astonish #85:
In the X-Men's very first encounter with the Hulk, Scott Summers realizes, "Somewhere inside that brute, the brain of Bruce Banner knew that a Man's life was at stake -- and it led us there -- in spite of the Hulk!" From Uncanny X-Men #66:
Accordingly, what seems like chance and luck, may not be. "Is it coincidence that the emerald defender hurls his frigid foe directly into the laser beam's searing path... or is it design?" From Defenders #14:
Even the supposedly Mindless Hulk bears rather acute instincts. The Puff Collective observes and exclaims, "Some aspect of that intelligence you have buried deep inside you -- emerged long enough to allow you to aid a friend!" From Incredible Hulk #308:
When those fortuitous instincts emerge again, Betty's confused, "he creatures short out in water! H-how could he know that?" From Incredible Hulk vol.2 #63:
The super-genius, Amadeus Cho, separately comes to the same conclusion Leader had and determines that it's the genius physicist perceiving the physics around him, "You're like me. You can see everything. The mathematics of every object around you. As long as your brain hasn't been tampered with, there's a part of you that's always running the numbers. You know where the innocents are and how to save them." From Incredible Hulk vol.2 #110:
Again, this is not a brand new development. Here, Savage Hulk punches a plane to stop its attack and Dr. Strange notes, "And a very effective way it is... precise enough to leave the occupant's unharmed, yet powerful enough to reroute the vehicle -- into the river!" From Defenders #85:
Johnny Storm is amazed, "But the green guy does it! And the way he does it --his body absorbing my impact so I'm not a bag of broken bones... I didn't know the Hulk was that smart." From Incredible Hulk and Human Torch #1:
It is probably this ability to perceive the physics around him that accounts for his uncanny aim. A pilot realizes, "Weird! It looked like the Hulk carefully aimed that makeshift spear at my wing -- not at the cockpit! As if... he didn't want to hurt me..." From Marvel Fanfare #7:
Even a bestial Mindless Hulk possesses amazing accuracy. From Incredible Hulk #300:
Here, a speeding, out-of-control Silver Surfer is diverted to the precise trajectory with a thrown rock in Infinity Crusade #4:
Hulk tosses a ball of crumpled metal and even the police officers admit, "In-incredible! He trashed all the cars... but spared us!" From Hulk/Pitt #1:
Even when caught in a huge tornado and buffeted with lightning unleashed by Storm, "the Hulk finds huge pieces of the floor and, with unerring aim, hurls them at Storm." From Incredible Hulk #444:
"St. Lawrence couldn't believe it. The Hulk had skewered a pterodactyl that was chasing one of her planes." From Incredible Hulk #454:
What seems to be a piece of rubble tossed in a random direction disables a flying Fantasticar emitting a sonic disruptor that specifically interferes with his inner ear and balance... and he wasn't even looking in its direction. Johnny Storm can't believe it, "Huh. His aim never used to be that good." From Fantastic Four #534:
A possessed Hulk throws a handful of rocks and disables a plane's wing engine in Fear Itself: Hulk Vs Dracula #1:
This ability to perceive the physics around him may also explain how he travels transcontinentally across oceans. "We were dropping, like a rock, towards the ocean out in the middle of nowhere... From the height that we fell, the atoll must have looked like a grin of salt in a sandbox. But he saw it. And he hit it at just the right angle to cover nearly a thousand miles this time..." From Incredible Hulk vol.2 #33:
Bruce Banner's intelligence is unquestionable. So the Hulk is dumb, right? Not really. Banner's genius actually bleeds into his Hulk personas in ways that are much more subtle than when it emerged outright during his Professor Hulk phase. The Leader hypothesizes, "I had always failed to remember that under that mass of strength was an equally powerful mind. It couldn't speak. But it was always there." From Fall of the Hulks Alpha #1:
This isn't a novel development. This undercurrent of intelligence emerged numerous times throughout the decades of his history. Here, it's noted, "And then, somewhere in that bestial, clouded brain -- a dim spark that is Bruce Banner suddenly shines thru -- without really knowing why -- without conscious motivation -- guided by an inexplicable, intuitive urge, the Hulk successfully completes the most vital leap of his entire life-- !" From way back in Tales to Astonish #85:
In the X-Men's very first encounter with the Hulk, Scott Summers realizes, "Somewhere inside that brute, the brain of Bruce Banner knew that a Man's life was at stake -- and it led us there -- in spite of the Hulk!" From Uncanny X-Men #66:
Accordingly, what seems like chance and luck, may not be. "Is it coincidence that the emerald defender hurls his frigid foe directly into the laser beam's searing path... or is it design?" From Defenders #14:
Even the supposedly Mindless Hulk bears rather acute instincts. The Puff Collective observes and exclaims, "Some aspect of that intelligence you have buried deep inside you -- emerged long enough to allow you to aid a friend!" From Incredible Hulk #308:
When those fortuitous instincts emerge again, Betty's confused, "he creatures short out in water! H-how could he know that?" From Incredible Hulk vol.2 #63:
The super-genius, Amadeus Cho, separately comes to the same conclusion Leader had and determines that it's the genius physicist perceiving the physics around him, "You're like me. You can see everything. The mathematics of every object around you. As long as your brain hasn't been tampered with, there's a part of you that's always running the numbers. You know where the innocents are and how to save them." From Incredible Hulk vol.2 #110:
Again, this is not a brand new development. Here, Savage Hulk punches a plane to stop its attack and Dr. Strange notes, "And a very effective way it is... precise enough to leave the occupant's unharmed, yet powerful enough to reroute the vehicle -- into the river!" From Defenders #85:
Johnny Storm is amazed, "But the green guy does it! And the way he does it --his body absorbing my impact so I'm not a bag of broken bones... I didn't know the Hulk was that smart." From Incredible Hulk and Human Torch #1:
It is probably this ability to perceive the physics around him that accounts for his uncanny aim. A pilot realizes, "Weird! It looked like the Hulk carefully aimed that makeshift spear at my wing -- not at the cockpit! As if... he didn't want to hurt me..." From Marvel Fanfare #7:
Even a bestial Mindless Hulk possesses amazing accuracy. From Incredible Hulk #300:
Here, a speeding, out-of-control Silver Surfer is diverted to the precise trajectory with a thrown rock in Infinity Crusade #4:
Hulk tosses a ball of crumpled metal and even the police officers admit, "In-incredible! He trashed all the cars... but spared us!" From Hulk/Pitt #1:
Even when caught in a huge tornado and buffeted with lightning unleashed by Storm, "the Hulk finds huge pieces of the floor and, with unerring aim, hurls them at Storm." From Incredible Hulk #444:
"St. Lawrence couldn't believe it. The Hulk had skewered a pterodactyl that was chasing one of her planes." From Incredible Hulk #454:
What seems to be a piece of rubble tossed in a random direction disables a flying Fantasticar emitting a sonic disruptor that specifically interferes with his inner ear and balance... and he wasn't even looking in its direction. Johnny Storm can't believe it, "Huh. His aim never used to be that good." From Fantastic Four #534:
A possessed Hulk throws a handful of rocks and disables a plane's wing engine in Fear Itself: Hulk Vs Dracula #1:
This ability to perceive the physics around him may also explain how he travels transcontinentally across oceans. "We were dropping, like a rock, towards the ocean out in the middle of nowhere... From the height that we fell, the atoll must have looked like a grin of salt in a sandbox. But he saw it. And he hit it at just the right angle to cover nearly a thousand miles this time..." From Incredible Hulk vol.2 #33:
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The more impressive She-Hulk feats can probably be placed in a new "Feats:" section in her page, but your Hulk revision should probably be placed in a separate content revision thread, or what do you have in mind for that character?
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Intelligence only regarding combat fields isn't sufficient for an Extraordinary Genius rating by our standards respectively, and the rest isn't sufficient IMO.
Intelligence only regarding combat fields isn't sufficient for an Extraordinary Genius rating by our standards respectively, and the rest isn't sufficient IMO.
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Genius seems sufficient, yes.
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Does this count as an intelligence feat for Doofenschmirtz in terms of driving skills?
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Well I think you would need proof or at least support that it was from his intelligence and not luck first
Which I don't think shows in that video
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Sure that just being able to navigate so he can survive doesn't count?
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