Self-evident intelligence revisions thread

[Zaratthustra]

Commander Keen (Character)

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Supergenius. Keen has an IQ of 314, and, with his extreme intelligence, he has created a variety of complex inventions out of household items, such as a spaceship capable of interstellar travel, a portable computer, and an energy-based weapon.

Despite having 314 IQ, his feats do not demonstrate such intelligence capacity, at most it is a feat of Extraordinary Genius. Heck, even Bulma feats outclassed him and she have Extraordinary Genius rating.

Mortimer McMire

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Supergenius. McMire has an intellect of 315, a single point higher than Keen's own. With his extreme intelligence, he can achieve many deadly ends, such as taking control of the Vorticon and Shikadi races and crowning himself as their "Grand Intellect". His complex schemes allow him to constantly stay one step ahead of his archnemesis, through faking his death with an android dummy and feigning an interest in only the destruction of Earth or the galaxy, while he works towards his true goal of destroying the entire universe.

This one even has almost no intelligence feats despite having 315 IQ, so I don't know what I should do with him, input would be appreciated.

Well, if no feat/statements are presented for X character, then you can only put them Above Average as while not having something tangible done, they still have a high IQ... maybe Gifted but challenging if they don't show anything that they know well.

If McMire can create such technology or something similar as Keen then he could simply scale from the other person. If not, then it will be my first point made above. Could be like Above Average (reason), likely higher/Gifted (as he could create complex schemes, etc).

 

[Antvasima]

Commander Keen (Character)

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Supergenius. Keen has an IQ of 314, and, with his extreme intelligence, he has created a variety of complex inventions out of household items, such as a spaceship capable of interstellar travel, a portable computer, and an energy-based weapon.

Despite having 314 IQ, his feats do not demonstrate such intelligence capacity, at most it is a feat of Extraordinary Genius. Heck, even Bulma feats outclassed him and she have Extraordinary Genius rating.

Mortimer McMire

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Supergenius. McMire has an intellect of 315, a single point higher than Keen's own. With his extreme intelligence, he can achieve many deadly ends, such as taking control of the Vorticon and Shikadi races and crowning himself as their "Grand Intellect". His complex schemes allow him to constantly stay one step ahead of his archnemesis, through faking his death with an android dummy and feigning an interest in only the destruction of Earth or the galaxy, while he works towards his true goal of destroying the entire universe.

This one even has almost no intelligence feats despite having 315 IQ, so I don't know what I should do with him, input would be appreciated.

Low level Extraordinary Genius is definitely enough given the feat involved, yes.

Thank you for helping out.

 

[Cimafranca133]

What's the intelligence of a character with a near perfect GPA? (3.9/4.0)

 

[Antvasima]

Usually either Above Average or Gifted, but we preferably need a bit further information than that, as it depends on the difficulty of the specific school curriculum in question.

 

[Cimafranca133]

Usually either Above Average or Gifted, but we preferably need a bit further information than that, as it depends on the difficulty of the specific school curriculum in question.

Let's say said character is from a Elite/Sophisticated School (*cough... *cough... Wellston High...)

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Probably Gifted intelligence then.

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

Kisame's page doesn't have much on his intelligence, so here are his feats:

• Attacks Killer Bee's comrades to force him to get into melee range - Chapter 472
• Fakes his own death in order to infiltrate the Akatsuki's enemies - Chapter 472-473, 487, 490
• Places a trap on a scroll with intel in case he got captured so it could still be delivered to his comrades and commits suicide to avoid being interrogated and lull his opponents into a false sense of security - Chapter 508

Also where is the calc that puts Kisame at 7-A?

 

[Antvasima]

Well, maybe "At least Above Average" intelligence would work based on the above examples?

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

Let's see what other people think too

 

[Antvasima]

Well, I designed most of our intelligence page structure, but okay then.

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

Well, I designed most of our intelligence page structure, but okay then.

I'll just your judgement for now though and make the edit, we can change it if anyone disagrees

 

[Dereck03]

Ant's suggestion fits perfect according the above feats so yeah.

 

[Antvasima]

It can probably be applied then. Thank you for helping out.

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

Possible intelligence feats for Shirai Kuroko:

• Takes out an armed adult without getting hit
• Knocks over a man nearly twice her size
• Uses teleport to dodge an attack sent via teleportation by reading her opponent
• Lets herself get stabbed in the hand so she can beat an opponent in a close range brawl
• Counters an opponent who can see where she’ll teleport by feinting teleportation
• Pretends to be paralyzed to strike someone in the jaw and solar plexus
• Keeps up with a ninja in close range combat while injured, and beats her by blinding her with a camera and using her weapons against her
• Narrowly defeats an esper skilled enough to determine where she’ll teleport via air movement
• Has firearm training
• Managed to figure out Trick's ability just by observing it
• Figured out the location of building supports to make it collapse

 

[Antvasima]

Well, maybe "At least Gifted in combat" would be appropriate? I do not think that general intelligence can be properly gauged from the above examples.

 

[Dinamic8000]

Hi

So, i really believe Jesse Pinkman intelligence need to be Gifted, the feats listed on the profile already say most of the arguments, but i wanna also remember that:

• He manage to become from a complete underdog on the meth market to a 96% pure cooker in less than a year chronologically
• By the end of the show he is comparable in most fields, although ultimately inferior, to Walter White, who is listed as genius

Most people tend to inferiorize his intelligence due to some scenes like that during early season or the fact that he is manipulated multiple times. But the first only accentuates the fact that he is a fast leaner, and the second comes from a bigger innocence/naivety compared to the rest of the cast rather than just being stupid

 

[Antvasima]

Well, maybe he could get something similar to the following intelligence rating?

"Gifted in terms of learning. Average in terms of common sense."

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

How does this affect the intelligences of rabbits?

 

[Antvasima]

Probably High Animalistic.

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

Some things I found about homo erectus:

Early brain growth in Homo erectus and implications for cognitive ability - PubMed

Humans differ from other primates in their significantly lengthened growth period. The persistence of a fetal pattern of brain growth after birth is another important feature of human development. Here we present the results of an analysis of the 1.8-million-year-old Mojokerto child (Perning 1...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Homo erectus - A Bigger, Smarter, Faster Hominin Lineage

About two million years ago, a new set of fossils began to appear in the human fossil record. Designated as Homo erectus, they show evidence of increases in both body size and brain size.

www.nature.com

 

[Antvasima]

Okay, so what intelligence rating do you suggest for that profile page then?

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

Not sure, I thought you'd be able to read the articles and be the judge, although don't we have pages of characters who have developed faster than normal toddlers?

 

[Antvasima]

I do not have the time to read those articles. My apologies.

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

I do not have the time to read those articles. My apologies.

Might Dereck have time?

 

[Antvasima]

I do not have the time to read those articles. My apologies.

Might Dereck have time?

@Dereck03

Do you have the time and interest to handle this?

 

[Dereck03]

The first article does not say anything interesting about the subject. The second one is a lot of text that does not interest me so I just skimmed it and read the summary but the only thing it says is that some had a larger brain volume but nothing interesting is specified. The behavior remains the same only with racial differences between different types.

TL; DR. Nothing interesting or anything that needed to be asked in this intelligence thread.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Thank you for helping out.

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

What can be gleamed from these pages for Tetsuo?

 

[Omnificence]

What can be gleamed from these pages for Tetsuo?

Gifted...or maybe Genius Intelligence?

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

Gifted...or maybe Genius Intelligence?

Mind elaborating?

 

[Antvasima]

Probably "At least Above Average". He didn't say anything particularly complicated there.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

At least Above Average, Possibly gifted could make sense as he had to explain to the scientists how it works or something which they even have been working on for awhile it seems

but don’t fully understand the context tho

 

[Antvasima]

I suppose that seems fine.

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

This is what I managed to come up with:

At least Above Average, possibly gifted during volume 5 (In his conversation with some scientists, has was shown to have a deep understanding of his powers and the universe)

Unless, should there be more to be added?

 

[Antvasima]

It seems fine, but deep understanding should probably be replaced by "some understanding".

 

[Omnificence]

On second thought, Above Average to Gifted is better.

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you for being reasonable.

 

[Whycantinamemyself]

What can be gleamed from these pages for Tetsuo?

Context here, this is more cosmic awareness-esc than actual intelligence. After an “awakening” in the previous volume he transcends his former self and discovers the way the cosmology works. That’s why he’s “schooling” the scientists here, he understands how the universe works in his own cosmology better than they do. Though I agree he should be of higher intelligence as he is clearly more knowledgeable on certain aspects of physics then before.

 

[Antvasima]

So what intelligence tier would be appropriate for him at this point then? Above Average or Gifted?

 

[Whycantinamemyself]

So what intelligence tier would be appropriate for him at this point then? Above Average or Gifted?

He has a heightened understanding of several aspects of cosmology, so I’d say gifted at this point since I’d say that goes above “above average”.