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Satella (Re:Zero) vs Zeref Dragneel (Fairy Tail)

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Still think Satella has too much unknown about her to use in vs match, but other characters like this have been used so it's whatever i guess.

Zeref has the obvious ap advantage, though Satella wears a dress made of shadows, so physical attacks don't work on her, now that i think about it, maybe that should be listed as intabgibility.

This match probably comes down whether Zeref can do anything besides passively going insane and killing himself due to being in Satella's presence.

Not to mention Satella's passive fear aura. If he can, then Zeref wins cause again Satella's abilities are mostly unknown.
 
It's type 3 madness hax, the nature of a witch drives ppl insane, Echidna (Re:Zero) revealed herself as a witch and like 30 ppl went insane and killed themselves. Can Zeref actually kill himself? No cause he is immortal last i remember, it should incapacitate him though if he has no resistance.

In addition witches exert an aura which makes ppl feel overwhelming fear to basically where they are incapacitated.
 
A good portion of FT's plot happens because Zeref tries to but can't kill himself for about 400 years. He is by default already mad, due to the nature of his powers and the length of time he's had to suffer them. So I'm not sure how that interacts with madness manipulation, but I'm not entirely certain that's enough to properly incapacitate him.

Fear manipulation I imagine is a viable incap method. Though, if it's an aura that causes ppl to fear for their lives it is entirely possible this may backfire due to the nature of Zeref's curse.
 
The only way Zeref could feasibly kill himself is by using Neo Eclipse and resetting time then killing himself when he wasn't immortal. But that would Yeet the whole match or just Satella as it's pssoible that it nukes the current universe but i digress.
 
Witches madness manipulation isn't done via mind manipulation, it just happens as a side effect of their being, and as i just rechecked, Echidna's worked on like 18 ppl and affected them in various different ways.

It's not necessary that Zeref actually dies cause he can't, he will be on the ground with his eyes bulging and spit flying everywhere, mention not being able to move and vomiting everywhere due to Satella's fear hax.

Matches with the witches aren't gonna go anywhere unless the other character has resistances to that stuff, passive hax makes stuff boring.
 
Does Satella's Aura work from 4KM away, going to assume Zeref doesnt just eventually Death Hax since he literally cannot die ofincal himself.
 
The page says "Being in the presence of a witch or something". So, probably much lower than 4km unless Pegasus said otherwise.

Then again, freaking out Zeref is like one of the worst this to do since he will just recklessly send Death Wave into general directions.
 
His Death Wave comes out when he doesn't want to either, so Satella gets death'd regardless
 
So far, it hasn't shown that sort of range, ppl in front of witches get haxed, not ppl kilometers away.

Satella can't die, it's why she was sealed in the first place. It's pretty absurd honestly considering the god tiers couldn't kill her and they are all haxed, like the dragon has soul hax, and Reid's stick is cutting through anything including space-time.

But as i said Satella is unknown, we don't know how broken her immortality is, so far just assumptions, and she possibility has all the other witches abilities.
 
I agree with Pegasus, we know very little about Satella, her only feats are killing the Witches and granting Subara Return by Death if I recall correctly. Though I have only read Arcs 1 - 4, have yet to read 5 or 6 so more might of been introduced.
 
She can also make 2000 Hands through the Authority of Sloth. Each hand being at least Class 25 with 7-A strength, along with FTL. Though that speed doesn't matter as Speed is equalized

She also might be in the Tier 6 range considering she destroyed half the world, we don't know the timeframe, but she is likely higher than just 7-A.

Also Zeref is HIgh 6-C, so as of now this match seems unfair.
 
I think we can close this thread until more info about Satella will be revealed in the future. Thanks to everyone for you presence.
 
I agree, it is also a pretty large difference, 7-A vs High 6-C is not the fairest. And we don't have enough info, so somebody should come by and close this.
 
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