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Wdym by "unlikely AD"? Also once he sees it, it would be too late anyway.
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Saitama vs Goku
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Fezzih_007
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Goku other wincon would be like, to use a Genkidama to win which is pretty IC for him in Toei if he is losing.
Which takes 10 seconds for him to charger onme
Which takes 10 seconds for him to charger onme
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If Goku tries to do that, Saitama would grab him by the leg and throw him across the planet they're on
Fezzih_007
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I don't think that would really stop the charge or the gathered energy that he already have.If Goku tries to do that, Saitama would grab him by the leg and throw him across the planet they're on
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How effective it is in Toei? Is there any other requirement than 10 second?
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There would be no gathered energy. Saitama is a very aggressive fighter. If Goku even tries to start charging, he'd be rushed instantly and knocked around, like what happened to Garou.
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It overpowered but failed to kill %50 Frieza who then turned to %100 which was comparable to SS Goku. Saitama would survive if it's only like this I think?
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Genkidama is countered by higher Lifting Strength
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Fezzih_007
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Is a one-shot for most people. Like, it killed Turles, Slug, Dr Wheelo in one attack.
The potency depends trought in the circumtance, like he gathered enough to defeat Great Ape Vegeta, but Vegeta kinda broking all his bones reduce the energy he gathered, and in Namek where's don't have many live sources around at the time, since Frieza killed everyone, he take some time and combine with the demage he already took during the fight, the genki dama as not powerfull enough to defeat Frieza.
That's like, what happens every time Goku decides to use a Genki Dama trought, and he gathers energy anyway. Goku getting ragdole don't stop him from using it.
It doens't.
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I really don't know if he wants to take hits from Saitama for 10 seconds straight
with Saitama's growth rate he might actually die. Saitama almost one-shotted Garou with a sneeze after only a few moments.
Fezzih_007
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Damn.I really don't know if he wants to take hits from Saitama for 10 seconds straight
ehhhhh, let me gather my notes...
Ok, Goku could also teleport to avoid the attacks while he uses the genki dama too, like he did against Buu. He also can do a quick solar flare, gather energy and trow it.
Fezzih_007
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Trought actually, that might be enough for Saitama to stop it.
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Saitama has resistance to light manipulation. Teleportation also isn't going to help Goku as when Garou tried to do the same, Saitama appeared where he tried to escape to before he could fully notice.
Fezzih_007
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Is still grace, but ArcaneAbyss and AwkguyDB dint vote saitama;
wow
Ins't that a little different from Goku teleport trought? Goku don't exacly open a portal to dodge.
And I mean like, he can just teleport in place to avoid Saitama attacks. He only need 10 seconds, he din't need to do for long.
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Would it destroy the planet? also If Goku is using this mid-fight, Saitama would overpower the spirit bomb.
Even if the Spirit Bomb is stronger than him, capable of killing him, Immortaly 2 + Explosive Growth kicks in, Garou himself shown an perfect example. I can see this happening
Saitama has a high resistance against Light manipulation.
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Saitama didn't jump inside of Garou's portal. Garou jumped feet-first and Saitama was already where the other end of the portal was by the time Garou looked down.
Fezzih_007
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Depends where he aims tbh. If he aims upward it not gonna do anything to the planet.
I mean, is still gonna injure Saitama enough for Goku to win then. Like, he can eat a senzu bean and restore his health, while Saitama gonna be injured by the genki dama.
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Immortality type 2 comes with explosive growth. Goku needs to be at base for this, he gets one shotted.
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Fezzih_007
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Goku have enough stamina to endure the blows;
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Enough Stamina, Not enough durability.
Fezzih_007
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How would he land it?
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10 Second. we're talking about ftl characters here. Saitama destroys him (And It's literally while assuming Goku went for the Spirit Bomb very fast. not mid battle).
Let's say Saitama doesn't attack Goku and lets it hit him, Immortality 2 + Explosive Growth while getting hit, Then One shots.
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I don't think anyone was arguing that he wouldn't go SSJ, just that he wouldn't immediately blitz one-shot Saitama with it as soon the fight starts. He never does that.
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The only way I see Goku winning with the spirit bomb is if he does what he did in the Android 13 Movie and absorbs it into his SSJ form, that one-shot Super 13 who was already no-selling the SSJ Trio so it's probably enough to beat Saitama fast enough that it wouldn't trigger his AD. Not too sure if Goku is likely to resort to that here, though.
Saitama's AD here is based on him enjoying the fight, so I don't really see him trying to stop Goku from powering up further, ya know
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I don't see how that matters, since is by their perpective.
Not really, I talking about him doing mid battle.
Then he gonna get injured, while Goku can heal himself with a senzu bean and defeat the injured saitama.
He can use a like, a Instant Spirit Bomb, where he telerport in front of Saitama to use it.
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Saitama is an amazing judge of character, understands the intent and the danger of the attack. He would stop it if it's dangerous. Like when he was protecting his wig (amazing how that's one of the only examples) :d
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Wait, Genkidama only works against evil people, no? Why would it work against Santana
Eden_Warlock99
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It works on everyone. People who are "pure of heart" can deflect it back tho
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Not just immortality type 2, it comes with explosive growth as well. Saitama would one shot him.
Mid battle assumes Saitama already has his AD here. Goku can't resist 10 seconds. Even if he did, Saitama could overpower the attack.
I can't see Saitama losing here.
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Saitama would definitely use a Serious Punch to counter then like he did to Boros' CSRC.
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Not sure if this is a good example tho...
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If you hurt Saitama you're basically giving him even more strength since his willpower is greater than Garou and Metalbat
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Saitama AD is only really insane with an upsurge of emotions. If he’s not in a angered state then that’s a issue. I think Goku is the more logical choice so I’m voting him.
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Goku wouldn't go SSJ and one shot but he would... checks notes... go straight for a Spirit Bomb.
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upsurge emotions don't need to come with anger, it can also come with the joy of having an amazing fight, Saitama is always bored cuz nobody was able to match him, if he meet someone strong enough then he will have an upsurge of emotions
Fezzih_007
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Can you not repeat yourself lol.
Because this don't counter my argument, he still gonna get super injured. Then Goku can just heal himself and gain a zenkai.
He can yeah, he have enough resielience and he can teleport to avoid the attacks.
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Ehh, Goku will really only use it if he starts losing badly, and Saitama doesn't really have any reason to assume it would be too dangerous.
Btw a Base Goku projectile Spirit Bomb is doing nothing to Saitama at this point, its best feat is killing an already wounded Lord Slug, who's stronger than Frieza, but that's about it. That's why this Spirit Bomb idea really only works if Goku absorbs it as a Super Saiyan.
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