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4-A saitama and Garou (possibly 3-C in future chapters) soon in their profiles, I'm cooming.
 
I have always been one of the people who doubted One Punch Man the most. I have seen people online anywhere (on Youtube and other VS sites) claimming Saitama and Boros were Star level or Solar System level because of Star Roaring Canon, although it was only stated in manga to be capable of destroying the surface of Planet Earth which at most would be life wipping, multicontinental or Earth Crust level? And I have always disliked when people go like: Oh Saitama can beat anyone because he is a " gag " character or some other sh*tty argument of the same nature.

That said, this images seem pretty unequivocal.

The sequence goes like this:

Saitama's Serious Punch clashes with Cosmic Garou (copying Saitama's Serious Punch technique)

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It generates enormous amounts of amounts of energy, and in order to avoid the energy from destroying the Planet Earth, Blast and his cosmic heroes team diverts the energy away:

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Then, after we were shown the energy from the Graou's and Saitama's punches clashing been redirected in the form of something like an energy beam, we are shown a big empty hole in space devoided from stars.

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While the hole is not narratively mentioned, the way it was shown to us is very deliberate, the sequence imply those stars were extinguished by the energy from Saitama's and Garou's Punches' clash. Hard to ignore there is a void and that it was first and only shown to us after we were shown Blast redirecting the energy from Saitama and Garou's punch clash away from Earth.

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In that void, there could have been billions of stars and even thousands or millions of galaxies, because a hole like that would constitute a void, and voids are well as big or bigger than Galaxy superclusters. With voids been from 30 to 330 million light years in diameter.

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But while voids in real life are more like an irregular spherical region with almost no matter, since the void caused by Saitama VS Garou would be even more strange as it would a a conical shape, with the smallest tip inside the milky way, then as the beam spread becomes wider over distance, more stars would get destroyed far away. causing a conical shaped void that crosses the universe?

That is of course, if we take it as a legit feat, accepting that this conical shaped void with no stars was caused by the energy of Saitama and Garou's punches clashing.

Furthermore, in order to calculate the size of the void, we could probably calculate the distance we are as viewers from the Planet Earth, then use the Earth as reference, since, the void seems to be almost as big as Earth from that distance (just like the Sun and the Moon look the same size despite the inmense size difference from our point of reference which is Earth surface because of how close or far they are from us).
 
You lots, what are y'all thoughts of the Destruction serious punch collision made?

What tier does it fall in.
before i show this calculation, i just want to give credits since it isn't mine in the slightest, the creator of it is James Daley. Support him on his TikTok where he mentions this calculation. And if you use it, please credit him since It takes a lot of work and math. The attack was galaxy+ https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/994314726710448129/994314871283908660/unknown.png

  1. Random Star diameter = 7 pixels
    • Diameter of red dwarf (proxima centauri) = 214550km




    • [2:55 PM]
      or 214550000m




    • [2:55 PM]
      214550000/7 = 30650000m per pixel
      • Diameter of destruction = 472 pixels




      • [2:56 PM]
        30650000 x 472 = 14466800000m




      • [2:57 PM]
        14466800000/2 = 7233400000m (Radius)




      • [2:57 PM]
        - -




      • [2:59 PM]
        "Proxima Centauri" will be used for this Proxima Centauri Mass = 2.446 × 10^29 kg Proxima Centauri Radius = 107,280 km G, Newtonian Gravitational Constant = 6.674x10-11 m3//(kg s2) n of a red dwarf star = 1.5




      • [2:59 PM]
        3(6.67408e-11)(2.446e29)^2 = 1.1979138005184e49 (5 - 1.5)(107 280 000) = 375 480 000 1.1979138005184e49/375 480 000 = 3.1903531493512304251e40 J - - (edited)




      • [3:02 PM]
        Formula: 4U(Er/Br)^2 = E




      • [3:06 PM]
        E = 4(3.1903531493512304251e40)((7233400000)/(107280000))^2 = 5.8015787e+44 Joules or 5.8 Foe of TNT




      • [3:06 PM]
        Solar System Level




      • [3:06 PM]
        - -




      • [3:06 PM]
        what about inverse square law?




      • [3:08 PM]
        3.1903531493512304251e40* (1/2 * 4 * pi*7233400000^2) = 1.0488264e+61 Joules or Galaxy Level+!!!!

        And yes, it's still small galaxy even if they pushed it, I have the calculation for that as well made by James Daley ( GO CHECK HIM OUT, HES THE GOAT!!!!)
 
before i show this calculation, i just want to give credits since it isn't mine in the slightest, the creator of it is James Daley. Support him on his TikTok where he mentions this calculation. And if you use it, please credit him since It takes a lot of work and math. The attack was galaxy+ https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/994314726710448129/994314871283908660/unknown.png

  1. Random Star diameter = 7 pixels
    • Diameter of red dwarf (proxima centauri) = 214550km




    • [2:55 PM]
      or 214550000m




    • [2:55 PM]
      214550000/7 = 30650000m per pixel
      • Diameter of destruction = 472 pixels




      • [2:56 PM]
        30650000 x 472 = 14466800000m




      • [2:57 PM]
        14466800000/2 = 7233400000m (Radius)




      • [2:57 PM]
        - -




      • [2:59 PM]
        "Proxima Centauri" will be used for this Proxima Centauri Mass = 2.446 × 10^29 kg Proxima Centauri Radius = 107,280 km G, Newtonian Gravitational Constant = 6.674x10-11 m3//(kg s2) n of a red dwarf star = 1.5




      • [2:59 PM]
        3(6.67408e-11)(2.446e29)^2 = 1.1979138005184e49 (5 - 1.5)(107 280 000) = 375 480 000 1.1979138005184e49/375 480 000 = 3.1903531493512304251e40 J - - (edited)




      • [3:02 PM]
        Formula: 4U(Er/Br)^2 = E




      • [3:06 PM]
        E = 4(3.1903531493512304251e40)((7233400000)/(107280000))^2 = 5.8015787e+44 Joules or 5.8 Foe of TNT




      • [3:06 PM]
        Solar System Level




      • [3:06 PM]
        - -




      • [3:06 PM]
        what about inverse square law?




      • [3:08 PM]
        3.1903531493512304251e40* (1/2 * 4 * pi*7233400000^2) = 1.0488264e+61 Joules or Galaxy Level+!!!!

        And yes, it's still small galaxy even if they pushed it, I have the calculation for that as well made by James Daley ( GO CHECK HIM OUT, HES THE GOAT!!!!)
Thank You! And thank you James Daley!
 
Issues with this alleged feat

By all likelihood, that black sphere is the dark side of the moon.

We're given a blatant shot of the explosion/beam between them meaning the moon is in sight of this page.
Then we get this showing Earth at a different angle and the black sphere.

The black sphere has a visible shadow on its surroundings which means it's blocking light, which a hole wouldn't do (it would be filling with light) while Earth has a contrasting light and shadow

Blast and crew also make no mention of this, despite noting the shift in space when Garou moved a continent-a star system vanishing makes that look infinitesimal in comparison.

A portion of energy also is what strikes Garou into Io, but this small portion of energy really does no notable damage. Even a sliver of that multi star deleting energy would've turned that moon to ashes.

So where would I scale the feat? Planetary, at least, given Blast is consistently stating it would destroy Earth.
 
Issues with this alleged feat

By all likelihood, that black sphere is the dark side of the moon.

We're given a blatant shot of the explosion/beam between them meaning the moon is in sight of this page.
Then we get this showing Earth at a different angle and the black sphere.

The black sphere has a visible shadow on its surroundings which means it's blocking light, which a hole wouldn't do (it would be filling with light) while Earth has a contrasting light and shadow

Blast and crew also make no mention of this, despite noting the shift in space when Garou moved a continent-a star system vanishing makes that look infinitesimal in comparison.

A portion of energy also is what strikes Garou into Io, but this small portion of energy really does no notable damage. Even a sliver of that multi star deleting energy would've turned that moon to ashes.

So where would I scale the feat? Planetary, at least, given Blast is consistently stating it would destroy Earth.
Claiming that the void is the dark side of the moon is impossible, given the location of the moon and the angle of the cutscene.
 
Issues with this alleged feat

By all likelihood, that black sphere is the dark side of the moon.

We're given a blatant shot of the explosion/beam between them meaning the moon is in sight of this page.
Then we get this showing Earth at a different angle and the black sphere.

The black sphere has a visible shadow on its surroundings which means it's blocking light, which a hole wouldn't do (it would be filling with light) while Earth has a contrasting light and shadow

Blast and crew also make no mention of this, despite noting the shift in space when Garou moved a continent-a star system vanishing makes that look infinitesimal in comparison.

A portion of energy also is what strikes Garou into Io, but this small portion of energy really does no notable damage. Even a sliver of that multi star deleting energy would've turned that moon to ashes.

So where would I scale the feat? Planetary, at least, given Blast is consistently stating it would destroy Earth.
The same side of earth has some light on it. Unless they've got some light bending feats, that's a void, not the moon.

Also, that would be one huge ******* moon given the perspective.

Also also, artistic choice wouldn't make a good artist use something as pointless as this, if that were the moon.

Also also also, the darker side of earth isn't pitch black. The only way for this side to be pitch black from this perspective, it would mean the sun is not to the right like the light on the planet is, but right in front of the moon, so we 100% of the dark side.
 
Issues with this alleged feat

By all likelihood, that black sphere is the dark side of the moon.

We're given a blatant shot of the explosion/beam between them meaning the moon is in sight of this page.
Then we get this showing Earth at a different angle and the black sphere.

The black sphere has a visible shadow on its surroundings which means it's blocking light, which a hole wouldn't do (it would be filling with light) while Earth has a contrasting light and shadow

Blast and crew also make no mention of this, despite noting the shift in space when Garou moved a continent-a star system vanishing makes that look infinitesimal in comparison.

A portion of energy also is what strikes Garou into Io, but this small portion of energy really does no notable damage. Even a sliver of that multi star deleting energy would've turned that moon to ashes.

So where would I scale the feat? Planetary, at least, given Blast is consistently stating it would destroy Earth.
Cope, the place and angle is literally impossible for the moon to be there.
 
Issues with this alleged feat

By all likelihood, that black sphere is the dark side of the moon.

We're given a blatant shot of the explosion/beam between them meaning the moon is in sight of this page.
Then we get this showing Earth at a different angle and the black sphere.

The black sphere has a visible shadow on its surroundings which means it's blocking light, which a hole wouldn't do (it would be filling with light) while Earth has a contrasting light and shadow

Blast and crew also make no mention of this, despite noting the shift in space when Garou moved a continent-a star system vanishing makes that look infinitesimal in comparison.

A portion of energy also is what strikes Garou into Io, but this small portion of energy really does no notable damage. Even a sliver of that multi star deleting energy would've turned that moon to ashes.

So where would I scale the feat? Planetary, at least, given Blast is consistently stating it would destroy Earth.
We both know at this point that this is obvious copium to deny OPM feats. Just stop, please. We've already debunked this argument more times than we could count.

Calling that black sphere the dark side of the moon requires you to ignore all aspects of basic astronomy.
 
Also this shit is already being discussed in the OPM general discussion threads, not sure why we're making another thread for this?
 
We both know at this point that this is obvious copium to deny OPM feats. Just stop, please. We've already debunked this argument more times than we could count.

Calling that black sphere the dark side of the moon requires you to ignore all aspects of basic astronomy.
We should wait for the next chapter. But it's 99% a multi solar-system/galaxy level feat.
 
Issues with this alleged feat

By all likelihood, that black sphere is the dark side of the moon.

We're given a blatant shot of the explosion/beam between them meaning the moon is in sight of this page.
Then we get this showing Earth at a different angle and the black sphere.

The black sphere has a visible shadow on its surroundings which means it's blocking light, which a hole wouldn't do (it would be filling with light) while Earth has a contrasting light and shadow

Blast and crew also make no mention of this, despite noting the shift in space when Garou moved a continent-a star system vanishing makes that look infinitesimal in comparison.

A portion of energy also is what strikes Garou into Io, but this small portion of energy really does no notable damage. Even a sliver of that multi star deleting energy would've turned that moon to ashes.

So where would I scale the feat? Planetary, at least, given Blast is consistently stating it would destroy Earth.
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But anyways like what KLOL said this is mostly on the general forum and further stuff can be brought up whenever the big Cosmic Fear mode revision comes into play.
 
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