Saint Seiya Franchise: Excalibur Upgrade

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Yes, I can make upgrades not about Digimon too. ovo

So this is something that has been on my mind sense forever. The Excalibur could kill being who could regenerate from absolutely nothing. By our definition, this is Mid-Godly, not Low-Godly. As such Excalibur wielders should have their Regenerationn Negation upgraded to Mid-Godly negation.

 

[PaChi2]

In the Lost canvas it didnt have any Regenerationn Negation. The four gods could regenerate just fine after cut by excalibur.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

However, it also cut through the....(Here comes the wrong name) Faceless (?) who could regenerate from nothing and permanently killed them iirc.

 

[LordGriffin1000]

In the Lost canvas it didnt have any Regenerationn Negation. The four gods could regenerate just fine after cut by excalibur.

Wouldn't that mean the four gods Regen is higher? Just asking

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Could also be a Resistance to Power Null as well. Or PIS.

 

[LordGinSama]

Perhaps a "Possibly Mid Godly Regenerationn negation" could work?

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Of course it can't kill the Four Gods. They are gods. See what happened when Zeus was destroyed in body and soul.

However, the Dragon Faceless can "regenerate from nothing" and Excalibur Nullified its regen. And if I remember right, the Faceless are explicitly Spiritual beings rather than physical creatures, so you can't make the argument that it regenerated from soul alone.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

However, the Dragon Faceless can "regenerate from nothing" and Excalibur Nullified its regen. And if I remember right, the Faceless are explicitly Spiritual beings rather than physical creatures, so you can't make the argument that it regenerated from soul alone.

Is that to me or...?

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Just potential downplayers.

 

[PaChi2]

http://saintseiya.wikia.com/wiki/Dream_Oneiros

I'm fine with Excalibur negating mid godly regen, but it can be resisted. This guy is proof of it. Excalibur didnt even kill their souls and kept reattaching the body.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Is he "canon"?

 

[PaChi2]

The lost canvas is canon, yes.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Not same timeline as Episode G Assassin, though. That one is Classic Manga, ND, Episode G and Assassin.

While LCs is Lost Canvas and Classic.

But it does make sense. Gods >>>> Faceless so resisting it is logical.

 

[PaChi2]

@Matt

Then should we add to the Gods' pages "Resistance to Regenerationn Negation"? If even minor gods like Oneiros can do it.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Well there is also the fact that Gods resist a lot of crap as well.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

There is also that chance that it doesn't work on those far above them in power + Resistance to Soul Based skills.

 

[PaChi2]

There is also that chance that it doesn't work on those far above them in power + Resistance to Soul Based skills.

Oneiros could still be cut by El Cid, so even if he is above him, it isnt a big margin. And was killed by Sisiphus' arrow...

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Well based on your quote, God have a higher resistance to Soul Destruction.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Wait! Would Dream even have Mid-Godly since he's not exactly an Olympian?

 

[PaChi2]

He is the God of Dreams who lives in the World of Dreams directly serving Hypnos. Its a different concept from Hypnos, who is the god of Sleep. Also, they are 4 brothers and the one who displayed this resistance was the fusion of the four.

Note that Icelus and Phantasos came back after being destroyed by Excalibur.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Éris isn't an Olympian and is one of the main reasons for Mid Godly.

 

[SchroKatze]

Ravs?

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Well don't they have like Type 8 as well? Could be less regen and more resurrection as well.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

So Resistance to Regen Negation?

 

[PaChi2]

They explained that they couldnt be killed by humans

"who explains that the gods exist in a dimension that humans cannot understand, and still rely on their souls, after which they are fused with Oneiros,"

This means that Excalibur didnt damage their souls. So they didnt resurrect, Excalibur only destroyed their bodies.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

So this means a greater resistance to Soul Attacks? So nothing changes from my proposal...

 

[PaChi2]

I agree with your proposal.

 

[Lancelot_de_Cancer]

Éris isn't an Olympian and is one of the main reasons for Mid Godly.

Eris is a great god and one of the greatest rivals of Athena since the time of myths. These are minor gods, without any importance.

But in the Gaiden 5 "Capricorn", Cid (with its cosmos to the maximum) completely destroys Phobetor, a brother and one of the five dream gods.

They explained that they couldnt be killed by humans
"who explains that the gods exist in a dimension that humans cannot understand, and still rely on their souls, after which they are fused with Oneiros," This means that Excalibur didnt damage their souls. So they didnt resurrect, Excalibur only destroyed their bodies.

The Excalibur (to the maximum) of Cid can destroy to the dream gods. In the Gaiden 5 "Capricorn" (Chapter 45), Cid (with its cosmos to the maximum) uses his Excalibur to kill (or destroy completely) Phobetor, one of the five dream gods.

Cid vs Phobetor
https://imgur.com/a/chy9O

 

[Sage_God_Slayer]

I agree considering how Mid Godly is defined and Excalibur killing the Dragon Faceless, a disembodied existence without a physical form who regenerated from nothing after Shiryu destroyed it with a Rozan Shoryuha.