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I'll have to give detailed debunk tomorrowDid you seriously just fish through nearly 9 months of the discussion thread to use an old post to refute something here?
At any rate, I don't see how that contradicts what I'm arguing here at all? It's not even remotely related. That was about whether the UW is a 2-C construct, this has absolutely no relation to the dimensionality of 8th sense souls in question here.
A different plane of existence, realm, different dimension, same thing. Also I believe @Alonik mentioned a scan about the Underworld being stated to be a subspace, so yeah.
That's stated nowhere in the chapter in any of Illias' explanation, all due respect, you're making stuff and fabricating context here.
If anything, the little context we do have in regards to that statement made actually completely goes against this interpretation.
These are the lines that directly precede Illias making that statement. Illias brings it up as a new perspective for Sispyhos to consider in regards to whether he"s really "dead" from a ideological standpoint. Illias isn't in the Underworld nor is he talking about the 8th sense.
The fact that he isn't even talking about the 8th sense specifically in itself makes using this as evidence for 8th sense users specifically HDE nill, btw.
Yet the upgrade thread doesn't give any of said background information that falls under the HDE standards.
Your own sources are literally telling you it just means multiple dimensions as far as wording goes and could perhaps be used to refer to a multiverse, which would be from a contextual standpoint. But the wording used is not something unanimous for multiversal at all.
There isn't the slightest modicum of context in the chapters to even hint it was referring to the multiverse here.
And in the other link, you asked a question about a different term from a different series (G Requiem) from a different writer and a different term with different context. Ignoring that.
This doesn't really address my point. The membrane part is completely metaphorical, and I've already gone in detail as to why the higher dimension part doesn't meet the standards to be in reference to a literal higher spatial dimension.
And no, 次元 is not exclusively higher mathematical dimension in any case.. what? It's also used as how "different dimension" is used in english, literal infinite examples for this. I'm sure you know this as well as me so I'm confused as to why you'd even argue this.
But the 8th sense part is completely unrelated to the mental plane, I went over this in detail in the OP. And since you mention it, as I noted above in the OP, if anything, it completely contradicts the notion that the mental plane transcends spacetime.
The Dark Wing example has literally nothing to do with her soul being the size of universes, it's implied to be because her soul perhaps reincarnates between universes, with the way she talks in first person.
In any case, at absolute best, it's just cosmic awareness, and that doesn't equate to having a soul that covers everything, which is ridiculous and non sequitur.
Cosmic Awareness
Cosmic Awareness is the ability to observe phenomena and be aware of events on a cosmic scale, though the specifics may vary. Users of Cosmic Awareness can often sense others and detect potential threats across an interstellar, galactic, or even universal scale, with the greatest of users being...vsbattles.fandom.com
As for the Illias thing, where? As far as I remember, the first chapter literally shows otherwise with Asmita saying that he had to actually make a journey to Earth.
Mind pointing to anywhere where I ever even said or implied it's an illusion? That's a strawman to my argument.
I said it's created and perceived by their thoughts and effectively in their heads/consciousness. That is true, that is a fact directly stated as cited in the OP.
Denying this is the only ignorance of context here.
And this doesn't necessarily mean it's an illusion or not real, since fiction, especially Saint Seiya here, treats the mind in very esoteric ways.
However, it still stands as a point and context that works against assuming it's a higher spatial dimension/R>F reality.
Raising their consciousness is what allows them to perceive and shape the realm, yeah. It works hand in hand.
We clearly see that with Asmita being able to shape the realm himself and create his own thought territory after going there (already demonstrated in the OP). If it were just Illias' thoughts able to affect it, maybe you'd have a a point.
It's not a contradiction. It came first because Illias' thoughts were what initially created the realm. This doesn't effect my point whatsoever.
So then I take it you acknowledge that the chapters themselves and by this specific author don't have any context for RDF here, considering you immediately turn to completely different series by completely different authors already.
Cosmic Awareness
Cosmic Awareness is the ability to observe phenomena and be aware of events on a cosmic scale, though the specifics may vary. Users of Cosmic Awareness can often sense others and detect potential threats across an interstellar, galactic, or even universal scale, with the greatest of users being...
That's what most of that is.
And half of that literally isn't even related to the 8th sense, which is what's in question here. Like the examples with the gods, or Dysomnia, who could see universes like that because of the specific place she and Shaka were in (a place where all universes converged), not because of her own abiliites or anything like that. The cyclops thing completely lacks context and there's nothing indicating it's related to the 8th sense either.
And I'm 99% sure the gods in Hero of Heroes in question aren't even the Saint Seiya gods as it's a crossover between various series (it's eyebrow raising that this would even be considered canon, but whatever), but reading a book that has recorded information isn't any sort of feat for them. And again, completely unrelated to the 8th sense.
Already gone over this above, this translation's off after I've looked into it.
To address the relevant parts:
"その時やたらと頭にあった、阿頼耶識と次元上昇って何かしら共通点があるのでは
This does not say that she tried to come up with something in common, but that she simply contemplated whether it did since it was on her mind. As she literally says afterward, she literally worked out the story without an answer to that.
"なかなかバタバタとした想い出の3話となりました"
This is not at all what this says. This says "It became a hectic and memorable 3 episodes/episode 3 (ambiguous due to how JP works with plurals, but the context from the previous sentence of her working out the story without an answer seems to favor 3 episodes). These phrases are all separated by commas and are independent of each other.
バタバタ= hectic
想い出の3話= memorable 3 episodes
なりました= became;result in, etc.
Nowhere does any part of what she says mentioning coming up with an answer, and on the contrary she literally outright says she didn't right before.
"答えのないまま捻り出すという"
I worked it out without an answer.
答えのない= without an answer
捻り出す= worked out; thought up, etc.
As for my thoughts on this:
But I'm seeing a lot kf confirmation bias and cherry picking what will make you seem right
Also I'm seeing purposeful neglect of whole context, and lack of Japanese raws.
This will just continue the same dance we always do. And honestly only those whom read the chapter will be able to fully understand whose right instead of reading snippets of the chapter.
Aldi, I think you missed the part where my canon blog was accepted in a crt
