tier 2 revisions aren't coming that soon are they? I know ultima has been planning them for a while but they still seem distant. and as for the canons, isn't it pretty much clearer now? GA and GR are probably not canon anymore so we dont really need to care about consistency between that and the canon stuff anymore
doesn't GA being contradicted invalidate it? how can a prequel be canon if the sequel no longer is?
In TO, it’s shown that the Chronos who appears in next dimension is the primordial. Meanwhile, G had the titan, Cronus
hold on, that's only possible if the "multiverse" was still a thing, you could have the OG saint seiya branch off from G Universe whereas the GA timeline also branches off separately, in fact i'm pretty sure thats how GA handles it. the problem is, with GA no longer being canon idk if this is valid anymore unless the basis to consider G canon is Kurumada's unknown amount of supervision which, as far as I've seen, the wiki is very reluctant on using as evidence of canonicity
G's contradiction is Aiolia getting nerfed to the ground
I fell like aiolos escaping being different, is too minor. Unless there’s some plot significance to it that I forgot
I heard it contradicts Ep:0 and origins too
Note that there is a God of time for each series, in itself it is somewhat contradictory.
DW, which is in the same multiverse as the classic, established that there are infinite workds
Ok. Let’s assume you are correct. Even if you aren’t. So in next dimension, Chronos the primordial is the god of time. Yes?
yeah I know but DW itself has no reason to be canon unless i'm missing something? it was written by Ueda who is a friend of Shiori and has helped on a few other projects but thats it. besides having infinite worlds doesnt really address that (I think even ND has enough evidence for infinite worlds)
The aiolos who appears is specifically the same aiolos as classic. Moreover, Athena soul shows the GC bronze boys
Next question Luffy. Does Zeus have a father in Kurumadas Story?
did you mean to reply to another message?
No, the aiolos who appears in Dark Wings is explicitly the same soul as the aiolos who died in kurumads manga.
The problem is that I'm correct, it doesn't make sense for there to be two gods of time in the same timeline, there are several other things that reject the EP G being canon to the classic.
Even in ND there’s two gods of time tho? Chronos in ND isn’t Zeus father. But we know Zeus has a father, who’s also the god of time. Unless you want to argue Zeus is the result of immaculate conception and the titans don’t exist. In which case, you do you.
Exactly! Therefore there is no need for a fusion of cosmology, where I explicitly see that there are images of EP G in the classic, as conceptual manipulation that is accepted, only exists in EP G, where I saw mentions, there are also TLC things in the original profile, which don't follow the same plot, they are alternative universes that do not intersect, I've kind of seen comments from the creator of TLC mentioning that it was based on canon, but that is another reality.
isn't that just a case of Classic being canon to DW than the other way around? like if MUI Goku appears in DBH that means ToP was canon to DBH not that DBH is canon to DBS
I don’t really think so. The reason why some canons are one way is because they are just incoherent with one another one way. But DW seems pretty fitting with the classic. And makes an effort to make sure we know that this is still the StS we know, just in a different universe.
It’s a rather convoluted way to not arrive at what seems like an obvious and intended conclusion.
i get that but that still doesnt tell me why it must considered canon to the main works as opposed to just being its own little spin-offs. Just because it doesnt present major contradictions doesnt mean we can just add it into the timeline. by that logic pretty much any saint seiya fanfic manga that doesnt majorly contradict Kurumada's work would be "canon" wouldnt it?
You do realize that it’s an officially licensed work right? We aren’t talking about the chaos chapter or anythin
yeah it is pretty much referring to the classic, that much I get. what I'm asking is how a spin-off referencing a canon work makes the spin-off canon. that just seems weird
yeah I know it is, most spin-offs tend to be licensed works if they wanna get published or it can be considered intellectual property violation
it does tho, you can absolutely get a fanfic licensed. its not easy but it does happen. that won't make the fanfic canon tho like I said
It says it’s in the same multiverse, ergo it’s in the same multiverse.
but that multiverse doesnt exist in canon (I mean, I think it does personally but forget that for now). it exists in DW, which you havent shown me how its canon to classic. is every officially licensed manga canon? because that is also clearly not true. even if it heavily recalls the events of classic, that just means that classic is canon to DW, not that DW is canon to classic. heck it would be weird if a spinoff didnt heavily reference classic. you'd need ND or another canon, Kurumada made work referencing these spinoffs for the latter option
Wouldn’t the normal assumption be that canonicity is mutual unless proved otherwise?
