Rule Violation Reports (New forum)

[Mr. Bambu]

I am fine with a strict warning for Sean, but don't think that his behaviour is bad enough for a ban. He has to shape up or likely face a temporary ban, yes, but we cannot threaten with a permanent ban over something relatively trivial like this, and then expect him to constantly figuratively walk on eggshells all the time because he was banned previously for other types of offences.

The fact that he was previously banned for similar offenses, as well as the warpath-like nature of these new offenses (however petty they are individually) makes me think it's deserving of fairly severe action. I'm not asking him to walk on eggshells or even be particularly careful, just to stop calling Digimon fans slurs.

 

[Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera]

Despite Strym's attempts to dig up the past, I draw a very fine line between what I write in a Youtube comment section and what I write in the biggest VS indexing site on the planet.

I'm not asking him to walk on eggshells or even be particularly careful, just to stop calling Digimon fans slurs.

Your terms are more than acceptable.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Bro, almost all of the banter in the Pokémon vs Digimon comment section literally comes from you.

There are 118 comments made in the last 2 years by just you alone in that video lol

Besides that, here are some of the worst comments I've managed to find. I'll tell by the start that these ain't doxxing or stuff like that, as these are all made in public, mind you.

And youself have admitted in one of these that you've been spamming its comment section since 2019.

In theory, this does look nasty. But we do have Offsite rules, none of the following are quite listed here. He may be a YouTube troll, and it's probably worth flagging YT posts like that. But it doesn't look like the type of thing to get banned from this platform. And Bambu also is making good points.

Umm... @PHANtomFELdway made this comment on @DarkDragonMedeus's wall. This can be very misleading. Are these types of messages allowed?

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As I mentioned on a different thread, if someone mentioned the OTL translation for the Chloe's Time Stop mechanics, things would turn out differently. I later asked a different question that I do not think was answered yet.

 

[Arceus0x]

Despite Strym's attempts to dig up the past

your suggestion to send digimon fans to the camps was a week ago lmao

 

[RitsuØ1]

As I mentioned on a different thread, if someone mentioned the OTL translation for the Chloe's Time Stop mechanics, things would turn out differently. I later asked a different question that I do not think was answered yet.

Can you wait a bit more in the thread? I had exams and a bit of more work to do. Will get back to it asap.

 

[Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera]

your suggestion to send digimon fans to the camps was a week ago lmao

...Is that not the past?

 

[StrymULTRA]

...Is that not the past?

I dunno man, can I murder someone and then dismiss it because "it's in the past"?

 

[Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera]

I dunno man, can I murder someone and then dismiss it because "it's in the past"?

False equivalence. I'm not even dismissing it on the basis of it being in the past.

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

I dunno man, can I murder someone and then dismiss it because "it's in the past"?

crazy analogy.
Tho I wouldn't recommend you comparing it that way in the future, for any other stuff.
and leave rvt in hands of mods.

 

[Antvasima]

The fact that he was previously banned for similar offenses, as well as the warpath-like nature of these new offenses (however petty they are individually) makes me think it's deserving of fairly severe action. I'm not asking him to walk on eggshells or even be particularly careful, just to stop calling Digimon fans slurs.

I think that is perfectly reasonable.

Also, Sean, please try to calm down in general. The Digimon issue is not remotely worth getting so long-term agitated about.

Is Digimon more powerful in general? Probably.

Is it nearly as popular and entertaining for the public at large? No.

The quality of a fictional work does not depend on how powerful it is in powerscaling terms. If it did, then Lionel Suggs would be the greatest literary genius of our time.

 

[Antvasima]

Staff members:

So what should we do regarding the current cases here?

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I'm fine with Bambu's proposal on Sean all things considered.

 

[Reiner04]

Staff members:

So what should we do regarding the current cases here?

Four staff members agreed (considering you fully agreed with Bambu here) to give Sean a final warning to improve his behavior and attitude towards other franchises. If he continues after this, he will be permanently banned.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, I agree with a strict final warning, but not that he should be permanently banned for the slightest infraction afterwards.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

What, exactly, do you envision regarding a final warning?

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

• Dimensional Manipulation to "Limited"
  • Dimensional Manipulation is the ability to manipulate the dimensions that aren't limited to just three-dimensional space. This did not occur in the evidence, hence, my "limited"
  • All that was provided was that the Multi-dimensional property Mana allows shields to prevent dimensional shifting from one area to another. It doesn't actually manipulate dimensions.
  • 4-D Mana

Not only shields but also all mana is passive as shown when Gwen used here mana, everytime, it should passive.

• • • Nothing from the OP provided justification that Mana manipulates dimensions on a 4-D level.

They accept as Higher-Dimensional, so it should be at least 4-D

• Intangible Interaction to Purification
  • The clip only presents Gwen using a mana to expel Ectonurites possessing their hosts.
    • Purification is the act of removing contaminants from a person or object. This can either mean cleansing evil spirits or filtering out materials within a substance (ex. reverse osmosis in the purification of water). In the former case, this can be seen as a form of Soul Manipulation or Spiritual Healing and can be used as a counter to Possession. Purification can also be used to remove status effects.

You should transfer this to Magic

• Intangible Interaction would count if the entity is perpetually or actively intangible, and a user can touch/grab them. Is a spiritual-ish entity possessing a host considered intangible in this case?
  • Unless we're, by default, allowing spiritual purification as a form of Intangible Interaction.

The clip shown they in intangible, also when they use their possession ability, they will be in the Intangible form

• It was also determined that Ectonurites are selectively intangible. They are not perpetually intangible. | https://vsbattles.com/threads/ben-10-update-fixing-and-additions-part-9.176885/post-6998119
  • The removal of Intangible Interaction was related to this.

This is Non-Physical Interaction (Intangibility [Immaterial]) not Phasing

• I will acknowledge that I made the switch to Purification to allow the original justification to remain on the page. If need be rescinded, that is fine.

Isn't you need CRT?

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Not only shields but also all mana is passive as shown when Gwen used here mana, everytime, it should passive.

They accept as Higher-Dimensional, so it should be at least 4-D

You should transfer this to Magic

The clip shown they in intangible, also when they use their possession ability, they will be in the Intangible form

This is Non-Physical Interaction (Intangibility [Immaterial]) not Phasing

Isn't you need CRT?

Wrong thread?

Edit: Nevermind, it was a response to his post. But sounds like it should be moved to message walls.

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

Wrong thread?

No?

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Wrong thread?

Edit: Nevermind, it was a response to his post. But sounds like it should be moved to message walls.

He is trying to explain what was "wrongfully removed" by Firestorm, due to him going on a cleanup spree after Hellformer and him implimented stuff that was never accepted in the first place should remain on the profiles/pages.

 

[Reiner04]

No?

I think you should discuss regarding this with @Firestorm808 on his wall or PM. RVT is regarding reports for rule violation and this sounds like misunderstanding at best.

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

He is trying to explain what was "wrongfully removed" by Firestorm, due to him going on a cleanup spree after Hellformer and him implimented stuff that was never accepted in the first place should remain on the profiles/pages.

No, he remove some things get accepted, since when did Hellformer add things that weren't accepted?

 

[Antvasima]

What, exactly, do you envision regarding a final warning?

A strict warning, but not resulting in that people in our community who dislike Sean can get him permanently banned for almost any small issue afterwards.

 

[Firestorm808]

Not only shields but also all mana is passive as shown when Gwen used here mana, everytime, it should passive.

They accept as Higher-Dimensional, so it should be at least 4-D

You should transfer this to Magic

The clip shown they in intangible, also when they use their possession ability, they will be in the Intangible form

This is Non-Physical Interaction (Intangibility [Immaterial]) not Phasing

Isn't you need CRT?

@Antvasima @DarkDragonMedeus @Reiner04

The matter will be resolved in another CRT to clarify the previous determinations on the proposed abilities.

Ben 10: Mana Information Page Clean-up

At the moment, the page lists the following abilities: Conceptual Manipulation & Dimensional Manipulation: Type 2 [4-D] - Any sapient species can potentially learn to manipulate mana, an essence for every being in the universe, and it is higher-dimensional flow. It is tied directly to a...

vsbattles.com

 

[Antvasima]

@Antvasima @DarkDragonMedeus @Reiner04

The matter will be resolved in another CRT to clarify the previous determinations on the proposed abilities.

Ben 10: Mana Information Page Clean-up

At the moment, the page lists the following abilities: Conceptual Manipulation & Dimensional Manipulation: Type 2 [4-D] - Any sapient species can potentially learn to manipulate mana, an essence for every being in the universe, and it is higher-dimensional flow. It is tied directly to a...

vsbattles.com

Okay. That is good then.

 

[Antvasima]

A strict warning, but not resulting in that people in our community who dislike Sean can get him permanently banned for almost any small issue afterwards.

@Mr. Bambu @Agnaa

Would you be willing to draft up something partially based on this?

 

[Mr. Bambu]

I'm not sure what you mean by "draft"- are we to set specific clauses to this warning?

 

[Antvasima]

Well, just a draft text for what his warning should say.

 

[Hellformer]

He is trying to explain what was "wrongfully removed" by Firestorm, due to him going on a cleanup spree after Hellformer and him implimented stuff that was never accepted in the first place should remain on the profiles/pages.

Stop blaming me when I didn't do any such things, especially in the context which you're referring to i.e. the mana page.

@Firestorm808 @Reiner04 @Antvasima
Is it fine to accuse someone for something he didn't do?

 

[Reiner04]

Stop blaming me when I didn't do any such things, especially in the context which you're referring to i.e. the mana page.

@Firestorm808 @Reiner04 @Antvasima
Is it fine to accuse someone for something he didn't do?

I am in btw a chess play that I have to win or else I am...iykyk

It seems to be misunderstanding honestly but yeah. @Dark_Soul20189 I'd suggest to choose the wording and names you take carefully in future. I know you meant to clarify the report and why its being discussed in RVR. but It can come off as accusation sometimes. Nothing else is needed. Let's move on. No more discussions on it.

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

Here, it's was add 1-A Although it was accepted from 3 staffs but also rejected from 2 staffs
@Qawsedf234 say disagree with 1-A

Afaik that's not a valid excuse for 1-A. PIS or whatever isn't a valid counter-showing. If it happens it's an automatic instance of counter-evidence.

@Planck69 say agree with higher via Dennis' world (meaning he disagree with 1-A)

Hmmm. I get the hesitation on the scaling but I think him scaling is fine. Either that or 1-B (Nightmare Realm scaling), likely higher (Dennis).

Also he agreed with The event is an anti-feat for 1-A (Option 1 before to be removed)

For now, I'm leaning more on Option 1 than otherwise. May change depending on what others bring up.

The rest seems fine to me.

So it should be removed 1-A as it didn't get enough votes

 

[StrymULTRA]

Here, it's was add 1-A Although it was accepted from 3 staffs but also rejected from 2 staffs
@Qawsedf234 say disagree with 1-A

@Planck69 say agree with higher via Dennis' world (meaning he disagree with 1-A)

Also he agreed with The event is an anti-feat for 1-A/Option 1 before to be removed

So it should be removed 1-A as it didn't get enough votes

How is that I get reported everytime I make a Gravity Falls cosmology CRT because of people not understanding what happened?

@DarkDragonMedeus and @GrathOfLux both agreed with the 1-A option (1 and 2), and @Reiner04 later on agreed with Grath, making it a 3-2 votes.

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

How is that I get reported everytime I make a Gravity Falls cosmology CRT because of people not understanding what happened?

@DarkDragonMedeus and @GrathOfLux both agreed with the 1-A option (1 and 2), and @Reiner04 later on agreed with Grath, making it a 3-2 votes.

Not enough you need 3 agree without any disagree, to add it

 

[StrymULTRA]

Not enough you need 3 agree without any disagree, to add it

...no? From where did you get that lmfao

 

[Reiner04]

@Planck69 say agree with higher via Dennis' world (meaning he disagree with 1-A)

Plancks saying he agrees with 1-B does not necessarily means he disagrees with 1-A. Just saying. He can just be more confident with 1-B.

Also He explicitly said he's "leaning" towards 1-B.

 

[Hellformer]

Plancks saying he agrees with 1-B does not necessarily means he disagrees with 1-A. Just saying. He can just be more confident with 1-B.

In that case its the burden of OP to clarify from the staff before applying the changes and closing the thread.

 

[StrymULTRA]

It is NOWHERE said in the rules that I cannot add a CRT without any disagreement, it's absurd to think it is necessary.

That option got the voting advantage, so I applied it.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

It sounds more like 3 to 1 + a neutral. Though, normally, it's if the votes outnumber disagree by three; then it can be an approach. But it's case by case, it has more to do with the points of each side rather than the sheer numbers, and ranks of individual staff can take some consideration into account.

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

Plancks saying he agrees with 1-B does not necessarily means he disagrees with 1-A. Just saying. He can just be more confident with 1-B.

Also He explicitly said he's "leaning" towards 1-B.

Option 1 is:

The event is an anti-feat for 1-A, meaning that Dennis is just +1D compared to the rest of the cosmology

Is still 3/1 is not enough for 1-A

 

[StrymULTRA]

Is still 3/1 is not enough for 1-A

Says who?

 

[Reiner04]

In that case its the burden of OP to clarify from the staff.

What clarification is needed? He listed them based on what they said. OP clearly listed @Qawsedf234 as disagreeing with 1-A since he specifically stated his disagreement. OP is only obligated to list votes according to what the staff says. I don’t see why he would add Plancks in disagreement with 1-A when he never said he disagreed.