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Yeah... That is no okay...
(Sorry, Mr Bambu and Medeus, just thought I'd notify staff here about this in case)I've posted on the matter. If a brand new user vandalizes a page and slurs the wiki, I don't see a likely outcome where they aren't banned soon after. You seem to want to talk it out at least a bit further, though, so I lay down the facts of the situation. We'll see.
(Ant too since he was involved in the page history)What should we do here? It is a controversial subject though, so only staff members are allowed to respond, and only in carefully worded manners.
TheHorseIsHerePeter
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Try changing your IP address. Your account is not banned from my perspective.Excellence616
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my fandom account has been blocked
It was banned few minutes ago. Anyways, I willTry changing your IP address. Your account is not banned from my perspective.
I never even saw this. How pleasant that we have had so few reports recently that I can see it now.Editing Rules
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Kurt Angle (WWE)
Kurt Steven Angle (born December 9, 1968), is a professional wrestler, known for his Olympic gold medal in freestyle wrestling, which he won with a broken neck. Tier: 9-B, possibly 9-A, higher with Angle Slam and Ankle Lock Name: Kurt Angle, the Olympic Hero, the Olympian, the Wrestling Machine...vsbattles.fandom.com
Wait... does this still adhere to rules? (Just checking in with this and cross-checking rules.)
(Sorry, Mr Bambu and Medeus, just thought I'd notify staff here about this in case)
(Ant too since he was involved in the page history)
Thank you.I never even saw this. How pleasant that we have had so few reports recently that I can see it now.
I would say no, it is not site-legal, as the character is notably not distinct from the real world person Kurt Angle (most of their notable defining features are, in fact, things that the real, actual guy just did- wrestling with a broken neck, winning an Olympic gold medal, etc). Probably should have been a Deletion Thread post, but I'll go ahead and remove it.
Editing to add in that the user who made the Kurt Angle page also made one for Ronda Rousey, similar situation, will leave them a message.
I'd recommend linking the comment itself so staff can more easily evaluate the situationexcuse me, how long is the ban for saying the f-slur? because I saw the word (f-otry)
in a recent post/comment
excuse me, how long is the ban for saying the f-slur? because I saw the word (f-otry)
in a recent post/comment
Post in thread 'Nasuverse Discussion Board (New Forum)'
https://vsbattles.com/threads/nasuverse-discussion-board-new-forum.107783/post-6719066
not to mention the users general condensing and inflammatory attitude throughout out the thread to me, @Synnian, and generally anyone else who chimed in to challenge him on his views.
added context:
いdon't think that's a user arguing in good faith, do you?
the actual context is in the next screenshot, but yea, I could understand how it doesn’t seem solid from an outside view.For this in particular, I'm only seeing hearsay and I definitely wouldn't dole out punishments for "oh I think he admitted this somewhere before"
The f-slur is a massive yikes though, yeah...
the latter, though I would argue all uses of that word as a negative connotation would be bigoted, as you’re inherently holding the view that (gay = bad)Did this member use the f-word in a condescending or outright bigoted manner towards homosexual people, or in an offhanded thoughtless manner?
While I'm not HyperZero, I'd like to also point out that I was also a victim of similar things, with Hyperzero being very degrading and overall just unprofessional and rude towards me and other people who weren't going along with his side of an argument. Even when I had specifically asked him to stop being so rude, he continued doing so, and arguably enhanced what he was doing before despite what I had asked.@HyperZero95
What do you have to say for yourself? Deliberately provoking other members and using the f-word is not allowed.
@HyperZero95
What do you have to say for yourself? Deliberately provoking other members and using the f-word is not allowed.
to my knowledge, the screenshot that was used was spread across type moon forums and servers like beasts lair, though I had no personal involvement in that.You could at least send the full links or screenshots of how Breaker is copypasting Neco (if they're even the same person), the Reddit stuff he did, the Discord stuff, how Syn and Breaker are banned from other sites, etc.
I'm not going into the debate about Fate or the Nasuverse cause that is too complex and beyond my ability to fully understand due to the scale (as in size and variety of the media platforms and continuities/timelines) of the verse, so yeah just letting you know in case you think I'm here to start another debate, I'm not here for that.
And as for the last part (regarding the first part of your message I removed, Hyper):
I don't think you (referring to HyperZero here, sorry, not you Breaker) were in any way justified to use the f-word slur (which is often hate speech targeted at LGBTQIA+ people, even if you used it as a generally derogatory insult) though, so... yeah I guess I'll let staff decide what to do for your usage of the slur.
"I don't like this site so I don't care if I use slurs here" is a wretched position to maintain on things. To possess such an insane superiority complex in a hobby so petty as to mentally justify any shitty thing you do is simply unacceptable.By F word you mean ***? Maybe I did. Don't remember. Don't care. Though if I did, it would've been a generic insult. I don't know if the dude is actually gay and don't care.
He's malicious and spreading drama off-site, on top of lying. He's also regurgitating a banned users talking points (Neco), to the point all of his arguments, tactics in a debate etc are his, on top of admitting they are in cahoots and just sending screenshots of them together.
I really don't give a shit about what any of you think. This is the same site that butchers basic math and has no coherent understanding of metaphysics. Why do you think in that debate I wasn't using any of your fanfic ratings and completely irrational tiering system?
Hell, you guys make content revisions over ******* pronouns LOL. I don't even use this site really and only became active recently to debate this guy. He lost the debate so terribly, which everyone else saw, that he's resorting to this because he's angry. He already tried making a Reddit thread behind my back, showing out-of-context lines to mock me, but it backfired as usual. I don’t let people spread lies about me without consequences.
As for his little Discord friend claiming that I admitted to "deliberately trying to provoke someone into flaming and getting banned," that’s nonsense. I don’t need to get someone banned, let alone a whole group of people whose collective intelligence can’t grasp basic logic and who exist solely to lie for a fictional character, to the point of making an entire novel's plot incoherent. And even IF I did want them banned, it would be because they’re annoying, repetitive, and contribute nothing to discussions.
Do whatever you want really? Doesn't matter. I already finished the debate with him and exposed his lies and mental gymnastics. There's a reason these clowns got ran out of other websites. Hell, they got ran out of here. Syn, who is crying "I'm a victim waaahh" ran off immediately after he got caught lying and making up fanfiction, on top of him initiating passive aggressive shit talk he backpeddled on once it was turned on him. And Wankbreaker again is just copy and pasting the arguments of a notorious banned user.
In fact, Neco/Wank's crying to RVR proves he really had nothing left in the end. He couldn't even do basic double digit subtraction at the end, something a 6 year old could legitimately do.
Anyways the debate is there for everyone to see. And I archived it in case some saltlord tries to delete it. My work here is done.
not only did he not express remorse for using the slur, he doubled down on it (though this time I think the filter picked up on it?)I don't think that would change much of anything
Sorry, I was asking if Hyper could have actually provided information of his own, but considering what he has done and his overall attitude, I understand why a permaban is in order.Mahek, you seem to be repeatedly disturbing our rule-violation discussion without adding important new information. This thread is mainly for our staff members and directly involved parties for each case according to our rules, which you currently seem to be breaking.
Also, this member is blatantly extremely toxic and unwilling to follow our rules and be a constructive contributor. Deliberately destructive members are exactly the types that we should systematically get rid of.
@Firestorm808 @HellformerI'd like to make a report on @Hellformer for vandalising and manipulating votes.
In this thread he proposed Low-Godly, Fire Storm specifically stated he was fine with Possibly Low-Godly. Yet he added it as a full rating. I doubt this is a mistake since Fire storm very clear with his opinion. He also added Fire storms vote as full agreement, which makes it even more sketchy.
He later said that it's either "GG reformed himself or AX reformed GG" so that removes the condition of possibly rating hence there isn't any rule violation
He blatantly said he supports a "Possibly Low-Godly" rating, so no, there's no full rating here and this is a rule violationHe later said that it's either "GG reformed AX or AX reformed GG" so that removes the condition of possibly rating hence there isn't any rule violation
At first, he did say this but later on he said thisHe blatantly said he supports a "Possibly Low-Godly" rating, so no, there's no full rating here and this is a rule violation
Hence removing the possibility conditionHe later said that it's either "GG reformed AX or AX reformed GG" so that removes the condition of possibly rating hence there isn't any rule violation
Let's consider this scenario:How does this remove it?
Okay let's confirm it from Firestorm and then the necessary changes can be madeFirestorm not confirming an outright rating later on does mean that it's an inaccurate addition to the profile though. We can't just go off of your own interpretation of his verdict.