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Looking at the way it's edited and I've seen no CRTs relating to this, plus the person who edited it is new, I'm pretty sure it's a vandalism.
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(I think this was skipped cuz Tier 0 change, so I want this addressed)Page edited without a CRT
Closest thing I found relating to a CRT is this match but I think we all agree it would not count as a CRT in the slightest
Do you wanna message Flashlight237 to explain. She/He usually has reasons for edits.(I think this was skipped cuz Tier 0 change, so I want this addressed)
I don't care what her reason is, she should've made a CRT firstDo you wanna message Flashlight237 to explain. She/He usually has reasons for edits.
Before I say anymore, How exactly do you want this to be handled like give her a warning or something severe because to be fair the changes do have explanations and arent that big. Although I do agree that a CRT should be made firstI don't care what her reason is, she should've made a CRT first
Flashlight's information regarding real world animals is usually reliable in my experience, and it was minor change, but a CRT would be preferable, yes.Page edited without a CRT
Closest thing I found relating to a CRT is this match but I think we all agree it would not count as a CRT in the slightest
I banned him and removed all of hIs posts.Another one https://vsbattles.fandom.com/f/u/48031199
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I fail to see how making an IRL rat have subsonic reaction speed is minor at allFlashlight's information regarding real world animals is usually reliable in my experience, and it was minor change, but a CRT would be preferable, yes.
pretty sure when he said minor it was because Flash only changed speed and nothing else.I fail to see how making an IRL rat have subsonic reaction speed is minor at all
Okay you know out of curiosity say Flashlight was some random user who had only a minor amount of editsWell, he is a productive member who has worked hard to improve our pages. Anything more than a mild warning instruction message is severe overkill.
What context?It is dependent on context. And ask him on his message wall or something. This isn't a case of blatant vandalism.
I know this question is for Ant. but I'd say yes especially if the changes are minor and it isn't clear vandalism.Okay you know out of curiosity say Flashlight was some random user who had only a minor amount of edits
Would you still punish them so lightly?
If not then why not?
No, I think Flash contributed long enough that he/she knows that they can change or edit a page especially if they contributed to that page and is generally known to be knowledgeable and trusted on it. The reason we made crt was so nothing illogical or untrustworthy would get added to the profiles.What context?
There was no CRT, you know that thing we sort have to do to make sure the upgrades aren't pulled from god knows where?
If anything I'd argue the fact that she's a user who has already been a while on the wiki and dine a decent amount of edits makes it worse because she should've known better unless off you gonna claim that after all she's done she would somehow remain completely clueless about the fact that to change stats you need a CRT?
No, her being here long enough here means she should have known that you need a CRT for thisNo, I think Flash contributed long enough that he/she knows that they can change or edit a page especially if they contributed to that page and is generally know to be knowledgeable and trusted on it. The reason we made crt was so nothing illogical or untrustworthy would get added to the profiles.
Yeah and your correct but we cant immediately ban a valuable member permanently off the site because of 1 mistake they might've made. We can enforce the rules but not let the rules ruin the community at that point it just is corruption. Besides, that rule is mainly just for vs battles wiki. You kind of have to see that the good out way the bad especially since Flash is generally a well-liked and nice person. were supposed to be a positive community I'm pretty sure that's fandoms reason for creating these types of communities.No, her being here long enough here means she should have known that you need a CRT for this
We can't bend the rules for people here we decide have been here long enough and did enough stuff so we can go "Ah fine they can do it without a CRT"
It was a minor transgression from a productive and well-mannered member who it would be a loss for this community to get rid of. We have to use common sense to not constantly lose valuable resources.What context?
There was no CRT, you know that thing we sort have to do to make sure the upgrades aren't pulled from god knows where?
If anything I'd argue the fact that she's a user who has already been a while on the wiki and dine a decent amount of edits makes it worse because she should've known better unless off you gonna claim that after all she's done she would somehow remain completely clueless about the fact that to change stats you need a CRT?
Also, I dont think it'll look good on you guys or the staff. I think we should at least let him finish the argumentAKM:
Well, it would cause less drama to let him finish his arguments first, so I do not mind if we wait a bit with applying the ban in this case, but you usually have a better sense of judgement regarding social issues than I do.
First of all I never asked for a ban, I just wanted a harsh warningIt was a minor transgression from a productive and well-mannered member who it would be a loss for this community to get rid of. We have to use common sense to not constantly lose valuable resources.
A warning is fine though.
I'll agree with a warning.First of all I never asked for a ban, I just wanted a harsh warning
No more no less although if she repeats this I'm def gonna aim to get her banned
Agreed. And personally, I dont wanna see him banned.I think Arc7 can be allowed to post his last remaining argument for the thread, but as AKM said the discussion will continue with or without him. A punishment for him should not be indefinitely forestalled until he runs out of things to post.