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Yeah but it ain’t a big deal if we have a user with an edgy name, I say we just let him be. He doesn’t really need to change itI am not penalising him. I politely asked him to change to something less offensive, as it is a typical troll username. That's it. This has been common practice for years.
Okay, so back to my report here.This is just not what this thread is for at all. Stop asking about the ignore button here, do that somewhere else.
Even that is a stretch, a good Christian accepts what others believeAnt, it’s an edgy username.
It isn’t problematic to anyone but super devout Christians, and I doubt that is our target audience, so we don’t have any reason to penalize them.
^Okay, so back to my report here.
Regardless, Gin-sama keeps responding to the staff thread without permission, was warned more than once by other staff not to do that, and did so anyway.
I'm pretty sure I'm allowed to comment on the thread otherwise my comments would have been deleted by the mods attending said thread. The worst thing I've said to you specifically is that I'm ignoring you, which I am in order to avoid needless drama. Not to mention thatOkay, so back to my report here.
Regardless, Gin-sama keeps responding to the staff thread without permission, was warned more than once by other staff not to do that, and did so anyway.
And we know exactly what happened last time? I wasn't penalized, nor was I given a warning due to that occasion not being a reportable offence.I’ve already reported Gin not that long ago for being disrespectful before, so there’s that, whatever happens to him, you can decide on it.
But it wasn't much of a direct order (this is primarily for staff only, if you have no meaningful contributions then leave), and I didn't see other staff members taking issue with your involvement. So I'm not sure if this should be considered a rule violation.@LordGinSama Did you think to consider maybe the opposition may disagree with your interpretation and have their own interpretation they consider to be valid? Also you have added nothing constructive and this is primarily for staff only besides those that have been named, not to mention I remember you saying you decided to leave the wiki recently, so if you have nothing that is actually meaningful to the conversation, then respectfully leave the thread
Yeah that's fair but at that current point in time that thread was a hot mess with several users misbehaving and what not. At this points I vocalized a genuine criticism I had for the lack there of patience given the situation at hand.To be fair, it did seem like DemonGodMitchAubin was sort of telling you to stop commenting.
None of the staff have issues with me being present, just as long as there's no hostility and or controversy involved and so far I haven't. To quote Sera EXBut it wasn't much of a direct order (this is primarily for staff only, if you have no meaningful contributions then leave), and I didn't see other staff members taking issue with your involvement. So I'm not sure if this should be considered a rule violation.
Okay, so back to my report here.
Regardless, Gin-sama keeps responding to the staff thread without permission, was warned more than once by other staff not to do that, and did so anyway.
And here's hisNot only that, but I'd also appreciate if you didn't structure that sentence that way as it paints me in a negative light as if I'm banned. Even in the OP I stated that I'd be leaving soon, not immediately.
No, you were warned to stop responding to the thread as the reply I linked can confirm because you werent given permission to speak in the thread, and you know full well to ask for permission first before responding to a thread that only staff and permitted users can speak in. And what do you do?I'm pretty sure I'm allowed to comment on the thread otherwise my comments would have been deleted by the mods attending said thread. The worst thing I've said to you specifically is that I'm ignoring you, which I am in order to avoid needless drama. Not to mention that
A: I only replied into regards to the lack of patience shown in the thread
Oh believe me, lets just say the feeling is very mutual here. But you trying to avoid me isn't grounds to ignore rules and having immunity to being reported, especially in a thread where the opposition mainly comes from the very person you are avoiding as a whole.C: Take my name out of your mouth, and try not to take this personally but I genuinely want nothing to do with you in particular and would appreciate if you stopped mentioning me and interacting with me whenever I'm actively avoiding you.
Who do you think has more say? The calc group member while in the middle of a shit situation (at the time.) or a Administrator saying she's fine with it? And that's hardly a warning front Mitch either, if anything he's telling me to remain respectful, and that particular thread is dealt with. So again, let's not make up blatant lies here Kukui. And guess what? Sera said she was fine with normal users commenting, and I'm going to take the words of the trusted Administrator rather than the words of a user who's being ignorant of her very words and a calc member who had issues with the tone I had (keyword.)No, you were warned to stop responding to the thread as the reply I linked can confirm because you werent given permission to speak in the thread, and you know full well to ask for permission first before responding to a thread that only staff and permitted users can speak in. And what do you do?
And had permission from an Administrator. Sera said she was fine with it, as long as there is criticism without being toxic. My last reply wasn't toxic, therefore you have nothing to report other than a needless petty overreaction.You reaponded anyway because you didnt care.
That's cool, then stop talking to me. I'm not forcing you to talk to me, the only one who's continuing this. If you don't like me then don't interact with me and leave me out of your mouth, do that and we'll get along peacefully.Oh believe me, lets just say the feeling is very mutual here.
The issue is that no rules were broken in the first place, nor am I saying I'm immune to being reported. You see what I mean by you intentionally being incredibly antagonistic? I have you ignored for a reason, so you can stop interacting with me before I report you on the grounds of actual harrassment. It seems you don't understand the concept of me not wanting to interact with you, please respect that and enjoy the rest of your day. This is going to be my last reply to you and I'm dropping this subject entirely as I haven't broken any rules despite whatever you may feel.But you trying to avoid me isn't grounds to ignore rules and having immunity to being reported, especially in a thread where the opposition mainly comes from the very person you are avoiding as a whole.
Wasn't a warning first of all, it was friendly advice coming from a friend. That in no way, shape or form was a warning, Gar was just telling me to calm down BEFORE anything happens. Totally different things.@LordGinSama Schnee gave you a warning on your message wall. Check there and you’d see the message
Not very strict doesnt mean it isnt clear. He needed to get permission first before coming into the thread to give responses. And he said he did not care if it was or wasnt staff only.No, you were warned to stop responding to the thread as the reply I linked can confirm because you werent given permission to speak in the thread
Like I explained, that warning wasn't very strict.
Yes, but being fairly common doesnt make it right or any more excusable. Especially since the responses he did give were not helpful to the thread, and others besides myself called him out on that.and you know full well to ask for permission first before responding to a thread that only staff and permitted users can speak in. And what do you do? You reaponded anyway because you didnt care.
Responding to staff-only threads without permission is actually fairly common. If people become obtrusive, staff should delete their comments. I've ended up doing that myself before. And I think Gin has a fair point with Sera saying that non-staff should be able to reply; blanket permission from a staff member for non-staff to reply.
I feel like this is only an issue if you can point to messages that should be deleted. In which case a staff member should delete them, and Gin should stop replying. That's about all that's needed.
Yeah exactly, I even gave several counter arguments against the downgrade but I guess that was ignored just to antagonize me. As far as I'm concerned, nobody else other than Kukui has issues with me being present. Staff are fine with it, normal users are fine with it and if you notice how adamant he's being about this entire "no permission" subject despite being the only one complaining about it. Since then I haven't shown any hostility or toxicity and here he is desperately pushing the notion of me breaking rules. Quite frankly I think Kukui should be warned not to waste time on Report threads by forging false reports / wasting the time of users on something irrelevant.If his behavior stopped being disruptive and he followed the warnings, I don't see any reason for this report to go any further. From what I can see on the thread, that's what happened.
Follow your own advice Gin, and lets not make up stuff here either. This is exactly what Mitch said to you after your first response into the thread:Who do you think has more say? The calc group member while in the middle of a shit situation (at the time.) or a Administrator saying she's fine with it? And that's hardly a warning front Mitch either, if anything he's telling me to remain respectful,
No, thats not what she said. She suggested that normal users be picked into responding into the thread to make things more fair and even besides it just being Arc, which we did. You came in much later than when this was said.and that particular thread is dealt with. So again, let's not make up blatant lies here Kukui. And guess what? Sera said she was fine with normal users commenting,
And another wrong response. You werent given permission, from anyone on that thread. Point out who gave you permission and I will apologize.And had permission from an Administrator. Sera said she was fine with it, as long as there is criticism without being toxic. My last reply wasn't toxic, therefore you have nothing to report other than a needless petty overreaction.
You came here of your own accord to what I perceived to be a RvT report, so this isn't my concern.That's cool, then stop talking to me. I'm not forcing you to talk to me, the only one who's continuing this. If you don't like me then don't interact with me and leave me out of your mouth, do that and we'll get along peacefully.
I dont want to be here all day with this and keep everyones time up with this, so i'll just end it here with this.But it does make it seem frivolous. If his replies have shaped up to the point where most staff don't seem to care, and he has tons of replies left up, why does it matter?
Like, a staff member told him to shape up almost a week ago, and he's seemingly been posting fine since then.
It's not like he's continuing to spam it with posts that staff have to keep deleting.